HELP - Foaming at the mouth, vomitting, diarrhoea,

My mums staffy was out the back garden the other night, started runing up an down the garden going hyper, she finally got him in the house, he wouldnt settle, he started foaming at the mouth, but not while bad, as if he was going to be sick, then he started vomitting and having diarrhoea, she took him to the vets yesterday, the vet thought it maybe he was having a fit/seizsures, so he got some jags and some tablets, he was no better yesterday / last night. she was up with him all night, he was been sick, and having diarrhoea again, she took him to the vets this morning, he has a high temp, so vet keeping him in, gave him another few jags, and hooked him up to fluids, mum an dad went into the vets to see him there today, an the vet said that Ben had went for him twice, now the dog is no way vicious an would never go for anyone, hes a big friendly giant, mum even told the vet hes a very placid dog, there keeping him in tonight an monitoring him, the vets to ring my mum tonight, an let her know any change..

its very uncommon for a staffy to have fits/sezizures?

hes only 1 years old, hes had his yearly boosters, on good food,

really dont know whats happening, has anyone ever came across these symptoms on a staffy before????

any help really appreciated!!

hope hes ok, mums to let me know tonight when they hear

thanks
mark

Sorry its not something I have experienced but I hope the vets can help and do keep us updated Xx

I hope the vets can aswell, Ive never really had much time for vets, as i see them just out to make money, thats my opinion on them might change if they help Ben, I feel sick thinking about it, hes a beautiful staffy aswell, and still a pup at a year old so sad,

Sorry I've no experience of this behaviour / condition but sounds like he's in the best hands so 8 paws crossed for him ><

The general rule for something like this is to go to a vet. If that vet doesn't have answers, go to another vet. Is your dog insured?

In the mean time, you might want to check your home and garden for any foreign objects or poisonous plants.

I hope he feels better soon! ><

Did you get him from a breeder who had tested his parents for things such as L2-HGA?

Has he been in contact with anything toxic?

he was took to the vet straight away, then given an injection, an some tablets, didnt make him any better, he became worse, took him back to the vet, an his temp was so high the vet wanted to keep him in, gave him a few injections, and put him on some fluids, then gave him something to calm him down... its just a waiting game now, its only been within the last day/2 days

no hes not insured, but I dont think it matters how much it will cost to get him better, as my mum an dad is willing to pay whatever cost.

theres nothing really in the garden, thats what we dont understand? theres a rabbit hutch with 2 rabbits, thats about it? unless he caught something off them? but I really dont know, I dont live at home, so I wasnt with him when he was out their backgarden,

really hope hes ok,

if a dog was poisioned? these wouldnt be the symptoms would it??

Caryll wrote:Did you get him from a breeder who had tested his parents for things such as L2-HGA?

Has he been in contact with anything toxic?

I dont know? I dont think so?

no nothing toxic at all

may sound silly but was there any rat/mouse poison down there it does sound as though he may have injested something toxic. Could someone throw something in the garden etc?

There are quite a few poisonous things that owners don't realise. I was quite surprised when I found out about some of them!

Horse Chestnut
African Violet
Bluebells
Clematis
Holly
Aloe vera
Ivy
Crocus
Apple pips
Mistletoe
Onions
Foxglove
Cocoa
Peach stones
Avocado
Daffodil bulbs
Lily
Maple
Grapes and raisins
Walnuts
Macadamia nuts

These are just some of the many things that are poisonous to dogs. I'm not saying that your dog has eaten something poisonous, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

I think Dogs Trust do a complete list of poisonous plants and flowers for dogs. It's best to be aware of whether or not you have any poisonous stuff in your garden.

Our dog ate something from our compost bin when he was the same age as your dog. It gave him similar symptoms, but the vets were able to treat him easily. Good luck! Let us know how everything goes! ><

So very sorry to read about Sam, I'm sure he will be fine he is in the best of hands.

Beaney wrote:theres nothing really in the garden, thats what we dont understand? theres a rabbit hutch with 2 rabbits, thats about it? unless he caught something off them? but I really dont know, I dont live at home, so I wasnt with him when he was out their backgarden,

really hope hes ok,

if a dog was poisioned? these wouldnt be the symptoms would it??

Yes, they are all symptoms of poisoning. Having said that, they are also symptoms of fitting.

As Eleanor says, Dempsey ate something from our compost bin (an old banana skin, I think) & withing a very short space of time he was sick, had projectile diarrhea, became lethargic & in the end was almost comatose. His treatment was mainly intravenous fluids in the vets hospital. He recovered well & came home after 3 days.

The vet will be watching for any changes in his condition, and will be keeping hydrated. Hopefully that's all he'll need.

@Kathy its not my Sam, its my mums dog Ben thats sick, I have'nt put pictures up yet off him, didnt really want to as hes very ill at the minute, when he recovers ill start a new thread and post him up,

@wendy and mark, unless someone was in the gardens behind to throw something in, but thats very slim? there was mice next door in the other garden coz it was over grew an all but the person sorted that, in sayin that its fenced off but still?

@eleanor and caryll, dont really think anything like thats in the garden, its just a bush/tree around abit of the garden then the rest is fenced off.


hopefully the vet can sort him, he was very panty and tongue out aswell, but wouldnt drink water, think thats why the vet has hooked him up to some fluids, ill be praying tonight for him to be better, Ive more time for dogs/animals than what I have for humans, I use to volunteer at a local rehoming centre, thats probably whats made me this way, but ive always been a dog lover, staffys off all, it has to be the worest thing worrying about him, hes my mums dog aswell like, Cant imagine what id be like if it was my dog Sam

thanks everyone aswelll for your well wishes, I will keep you all updated on his progress as soon as I hear anything, the vets to ring my mum tonight before bedtime to keep her updated, but it probably be tomorrow before any real improvement

Beaney wrote:but wouldnt drink water, think thats why the vet has hooked him up to some fluids,

Any dog with severe diarrhea will be hooked up to intravenous fluids automatically - they dehydrate so quickly!

Please, please let us know how he gets on.

I understand that you must be very upset. >< It sounds like he's in good hands at the vets, though, so keep your fingers crossed!

Do you know if he's done anything out of routine recently? Gone to a different place on a walk, been somewhere new?

nope, nothing different, he started acting strange before this all happened out in the back garden when he went to go toliet, like running around as if he saw something, wouldnt settle then they got him inside then thats when it all started..

It sounds like you got him to the vets quickly, so they should be able to help him. Keep us updated on how he is! ><

Just to let you know I'm thinking of you all and I hope Ben is well and home very soon ><

The vet rang mum last night. He's improved an been out a walk but the vet thinks he's blind. At the steps he was wiery and felt his way up them. Vet rang this morning again. He's sitting up looking out. But moving his head a lot. Still thinks he's blind. He said it maybe coz inflammation on the brain. Just waiting to see now if he improves. Going to see him at 9.30. Vets to do tests today to see what caused it or what happened. He's thinks the seizure may have to do with his eyesight.

Worse comes to worse an he is blind. Has anyone on the forum got experience from a blind staffy an making it comfortable to enjoy their life as much as possible?

My last dog went blind and she was diabetic. She went blind when she was quite old 12-13 approx (I didn't know her exact age as she was a rescue).

You wouldn't believe how quickly they adapt! Literally within 3-5 days she went from bumping her head off door frames and walls to walking round the house, up down stairs, finding food and water bowls. She was perfectly happy and managed the very best.

Dogs are very hardy, I think sometimes (me included) we care/worry so much about them when in essence they aren't a bit concerned themselves. I'm sure he will adapt to your lifestyle very quickly. You might just have to be a bit more patient with him. One thing I did find was that she was VERY nervous of dogs coming up to her, she was always quite dog aggressive. I had to change where I walked to allow her a more stress free experience.

I'm very glad the vets helped you well!!

Poor guy hope he is ok

As Mat says, they adapt very easily. All you need to do is have patience and make sure you don't move furniture etc around.

Do keep us up to date with his progress, though.

Thanks all. Was out seen him. Was good to see him but he's very wiery and scared. Probably because still drugged up. Still a wee bit slabbery round the mouth. But we think he sees us. Coz if U go to move ur hand to pet him he cowardly a down. Going to call in afternoon again to see him. Hopefully improved more and the drugs wear off. And they get to the bottom of it

He looks like a lovely dog. Might just take a few days for you to start to see improvements. I've a feeling he will be fine though!

Some time back, Kenny did the same. our vet at first suspected poisioning, it turned out to be Food poisioning. Our neighbour had fed him gone off meat. I hope everything is ok xx

Beaney wrote:The vet rang mum last night. He's improved an been out a walk but the vet thinks he's blind. At the steps he was wiery and felt his way up them. Vet rang this morning again. He's sitting up looking out. But moving his head a lot. Still thinks he's blind. He said it maybe coz inflammation on the brain. Just waiting to see now if he improves. Going to see him at 9.30. Vets to do tests today to see what caused it or what happened. He's thinks the seizure may have to do with his eyesight.

Worse comes to worse an he is blind. Has anyone on the forum got experience from a blind staffy an making it comfortable to enjoy their life as much as possible?

Thinking of you xx

hope he gets well

Sorry I dont have any personal experience of living with a blind dog but the link below may have some useful information for you:

https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t18385-living-with-a-blind-staffords?highlight=blind

My thoughts are with Sam, hoping he makes a full recovery ><

Ben got home tonight, the vet thinks hes been posioned, and thats what happened him, gave my mum and dad some tablets to give him, an the vet said he should be ok this time tomorrow, and if not to come back an the next step is blood tests, but hopefully thats it over an done, an he gets back to his usual time. will keep you all updated, im going to visit him tomorrow again at mum an dads

Sounds promising. Although it's still very serious. Logan got badly poisoned when he was about 16 weeks by eating mushrooms when he was out for a walk. But after a few days of meds and rest he was back to normal wrecking my house. Hope it goes well!

Best wishes hope is comes through this, fingers crossed .

Hope tomorrow brings good news , fingers and 8 paws crossed

Sounds like something neurological(l2-hga?), poisoning (though I'm sure this would start to improve after 24hours), or maybe something like lung worm though I can't remember the symptoms specifically one of our members dog's sadly passed away from this horrible illness.

Hi Beaney - please let us have an update on Sam? We are all concerned and keeping everything crossed for him ><

Hi Lynda, its Ben, my mum and dads 1 year old staffy, (my staffy sam is fine) hes home and was at the vet a visit tonight, give him more anitboitics etc.. hes still not himself but hes no longer foaming etc, still some diarhoeaa but no vomitting, hes very dull, but he hasnt slept yet, he started nodding off there when we left, he still seems abit scared, hopefully comes around, just give him more time to come round, he was lying with his head on my dads knee, but u wouldnt think he was the same dog before he took sick, still praying he gets bette and comes back to his usual bouncy an hyper self

I also wonder if he may have had a mild stroke?

sorry Beaney - names escape me sometimes (ask my children!).

Poor dog, and poor you and your parents - a very worrying time for you all. The good news is that the vet wouldn't let Ben go home if they didn't think that he was improving.

When does he next have a check up at the vets?

We're all thinking of you, your parents and Ben ><

Still real no updates... hes started to do pee/poos again, but in the house, he is toliet trainned, but its as if he doesnt know any better? hes still dull compared to what he use to be, but he is eating, an drinking etc now, maybe over the next few days or weeks he might progress? but hes still abit weiry scared aswell?? we think maybe whatever happened to him, has brain damaged him or something? its as if he doesnt know us?

still very worried about him! but theres not much we can do, done everything, its just a waiting game now to see if he gets better over the next few days or weeks? the vet said the next step would be to take his bloods if he takes bad again..

Thank you for the update.

Obviously, Ben is a bit better, but not much, which is disappointing to hear and worrying for you and your parents.

I have to ask - the vet said "the next step would be to take his bloods if he takes bad again". Has the vet not taken bloods before now? Surely if poisoning was suspected this would be the first thing they would do?

I'd be asking for a full panel, including thyroid, liver function and kidney function, and discussing stool sample testing for lungworm.

nope the vet has'nt took any blood samples or anything. what the main thing the vet done was bring the temp down of ben, his temp was really high, thats why he kept him in over night, but his temp etc now is fine, gave him some antibotics, and another few jags, (not sure what they where for, never asked my mum an dad) but they had him back out the vet other night for a wee check up, the vet said, that ben had a sore bum/stomach.... (thats all I was told over the phone from my mum an dad, they probably got abit more info out off him...

bens has been out walking etc aswell, and walking as normal, but when hes home he just lyes or sits somewhere, now this is a 1 year old staffy, who use to be so hyper an would knock ya over just to get over to u an be excited...
really hope he comes back to his normal self... just aint the same, its as if hes depressed or something? its hard to explain... he just wouldnt be bothered sorta thing????

Poor Ben, he's clearly still not well.

Personally, I would press for a full blood test, which would cover everything Keith mentioned above, except for the lungworm.

A thorough examination of Ben's poo is also a good idea.

Is Ben insured?

Id a thought a blood test would have came back with an answer aswell, but I didnt question it to my mum an dad, why the vet has'nt done one yet... the money they have paid aswell for the care... (not that it matters, all they want is the dog better) nope... hes not insured, his poo is normal today, hes been eating royal canine food, the wet stuff,

Vet tests are so expensive, so I can understand if your parents didn't demand one. The last time I had one on a dog was about 15 years ago - the suspicion was an under-active thyroid and so that was all they were looking for (thyroid function) but even so it cost me £90 and as i say that was quite a long time ago, so I dread to think what a FBC would cost now.

Your parents have paid out a lot already so I would hesitate to suggest what they should ask of their vet now, especially if they are OAPs (like me!)

In the circumstances I don't know what to suggest next - it's been a week since Ben got ill and the good news is that he stopped vomiting, foaming at the mouth and having diarrheo so that is good.

Has he had his routine jabs (including against parvo)?

ill not tell you roughly how much they have spent on the vet bills.. but its well over £300..........

yes ben gets his yearly booster/jab to prevent getting anything, thats another thing I dont understand... these jabs are to protect the dog, yet ben still caught something, although we still dont know whether he caught something, or was poisioned, or was it a sezisure fit, just dont know...

How's Ben today Beaney?

Hes alot brighter, starting to wag tail again, but not as hyper as what he was, hes very clingy to the older dog, like lying in beside her an all in bed, he use to tortue her big time, knocking her down etc, but now hes sorta more huggy around her, as looking for company sorta thing? he still doing hard poos etc, and pee etc, the only thing is they had him out for a walk, he poo, an there was alot a blood in the poo, but then that was it, hes been ok since, we dont know whether thats just the end of whatevers wrong with him coming out or what the story is, hes due back for a wee check up, but seems be alot brighter an starting to perk up again, Its been a scary ordeal for him, thats maybe why hes still not himself yet