real pitbull

by **Andy** Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:02

Nice lookin girl ... who is she ?

by **Steve** Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:09

i dont know off google search

by **Andy** Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:24

This a fave red nose of mine .. his name is Earl Love Struck

by **Steve** Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:25

nice dog

by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 12:17

I can honestly say that the first pit is a beauty. The second one....no.

by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 14:00

Both bloody gorgeous dogs to me Big Grin

by **gem** Wed Oct 31 2012, 01:00

The first dog looks a nice clean lined balanced head would prefere the ear slightly smaller thumbs up

The second dog looks awfull a mess the head is unbalanced and over eggagerated nothing nice about it for me and I could never do that to my dog its butchery nothing less Crying or Very sad

by Staffiesrus Wed Oct 31 2012, 08:22

Nice dogs but im with Caryll in as far as the whole butchering of ears go. I like red coloured dogs also!!

by **Andy** Wed Oct 31 2012, 17:13

gem wrote:The second dog looks awfull a mess the head is unbalanced and over eggagerated nothing nice about it

Again, looking past the ear's Rolling Eyes

... I'm sorry but I dont understand your comments above Gem ?

He looks VERY well balanced to me and in simply amazing shape, what exactly is "over eggagerated" on him ? .. this is how I think a true APBT should look ... i dont know

by Guest Wed Oct 31 2012, 17:26

I must admit that looking past the ears (Ugh!) that dog's a cracker!

by Guest Wed Oct 31 2012, 18:32

Borrowed this photo off a lass from the US i know

From left to right

Wilson, Piper and Sako

Wilson and piper are X and sako a pit

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by roz w Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:20

well the ones with ears look much nicer

by Guest Thu Nov 01 2012, 19:09

I really like both looks personally

by Guest Thu Nov 01 2012, 19:20

Fantastic looking dogs, but again, I hate the ears on the pitbull. I see no reason at all for chopping off bits of flesh.

by Guest Sun Nov 04 2012, 03:54

A bit off topic, but I thought Wilson and Piper were Pit Bull mixes and Sako was an AmStaff? I know it's mean, but I've never really liked Sako's look. I feel like he doesn't have much of a stop and his face is really elongated. I dunno, he just looks "off" to me.

The first two dogs in this thread were both good looking dogs. It's really too bad that, despite the fact that the breed standard says that natural ears are preferred, champion AKC AmStaffs and UKC APBTs usually have cropped ears. Sad

Most ADBA APBT champions have natural ears, though, which is nice to see! Smile

by Guest Sun Nov 04 2012, 18:13

no wilson and piper pit mixes and sako a pit

by Guest Sun Nov 04 2012, 18:17

thread back on track with some unneeded comments removed

by Staffiesrus Sun Nov 04 2012, 20:55

Ella can you explain to me why my post was removed?

by Guest Sun Nov 04 2012, 21:44

Which post?

by Guest Sun Nov 04 2012, 22:01

tartan wrote:Ella can you explain to me why my post was removed?

because this thread isn't about cropped ears or the operation whatever to do with them, so i removed them.

Your more then welcome to start a new topic on them, but this isn't about ears.

by Staffiesrus Sun Nov 04 2012, 22:22

So my input into a healthy debate was decided to be unneeded?
I was simply agreeing with Caryll, like alot of others, but obviously it was out of line.
My post referred to the cropping of ears being 'an unnecessary evil'!!
There are lots of threads that go off topic and people air their views, is this not what a forum is for?

by Guest Mon Nov 05 2012, 00:54

I'm not arguing yours isn't the only post deleted and this thread is NOT about ear cropping.

by Staffiesrus Mon Nov 05 2012, 08:25

I am not arguing but it is clear to see that other posts still remain regarding the issue yet mine was deleted. This is what I found rather annoying. I accept that it is off topic but if you are going to delete posts that people have spent the time writing then delete all posts relating to ear cropping, not just some.
I just feel it is a bit dictorial to do this!
I am stating my opinion, not arguing.

by Guest Mon Nov 05 2012, 08:32

Tartan, maybe the best way forward is to start a new debate on ear cropping?

by **Steve** Mon Nov 05 2012, 09:12

ok i have split this topic in 2 you can carry on the chop ear in this topic

https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t26436-chop-ears

by Guest Tue Nov 06 2012, 23:08

ella wrote:no wilson and piper pit mixes and sako a pit

Here is a picture of Sako with a couple of AKC ribbons:
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He can only be shown at an AKC show if he is an AmStaff. He may very well be dual registered as an AKC AmStaff and a UKC APBT, I don't know for sure. I DO know that he IS an AmStaff.

by Guest Tue Nov 06 2012, 23:14

CatStina wrote:
ella wrote:no wilson and piper pit mixes and sako a pit
Here is a picture of Sako with a couple of AKC ribbons:

He can only be shown at an AKC show if he is an AmStaff. He may very well be dual registered as an AKC AmStaff and a UKC APBT, I don't know for sure. I DO know that he IS an AmStaff.

He must be duel registered then as she has always said he's a pit and not amstaff

by **gem** Wed Nov 07 2012, 18:08

Andy wrote:
gem wrote:The second dog looks awfull a mess the head is unbalanced and over eggagerated nothing nice about it

Again, looking past the ear's ... I'm sorry but I dont understand your comments above Gem ?

He looks VERY well balanced to me and in simply amazing shape, what exactly is "over eggagerated" on him ? .. this is how I think a true APBT should look ...

Hi Andy Im sorry I cant see past the ears so for me the first dog has a better head, cutting its ears off has made it stronger ears play a huge part in balance. I wonder why thats the reason its done to eggagerate the head and make it look stronger. I prefare head no 1 cant help it . No doubting the dog is in amazing condition and fit as a fiddle just wish they wouldnt do that to there ears.
> Big Grin

< didnt mean to offend my opinion dont count for much I dont want to s

by Guest Wed Nov 07 2012, 21:06

gem wrote: >< didnt mean to offend my opinion dont count for much

Of course it does!!!! Surprised

by Elvisfink Thu Apr 04 2013, 18:12

gem wrote:The first dog looks a nice clean lined balanced head would prefere the ear slightly smaller
The second dog looks awfull a mess the head is unbalanced and over eggagerated nothing nice about it for me and I could never do that to my dog its butchery nothing less

Hi Guys,
I just came across this site while searching some photos on Google. Andy, thanks for liking Earl so much I appreciate it. Wow, Gem you’re the first person to call my dog Earl a mess. Worst yet you’re basing your statement on your dislike of cropped ears. If you weren’t so blinded by that issue you would see a dog that is 12pts away from his ADBA Championship. You would also see a dog that is very well balanced, very athletic, moves unbelievably and is very well conditioned. Just an FYI Earl has achieved so far his CGC, ADBA Safe Dog 1, CSAU, URO1 and is a certified Therapy Dog. I’ve attached a few more photo of Earl and his butchered ears.
Cheers,

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Earl & Poison Ivy
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by **Steve** Thu Apr 04 2013, 18:22

great looking dog i dont have problem with chopped ear as long do by vets.

by Guest Thu Apr 04 2013, 18:29

Personally, I think your dog is gorgeous. Smile

Ignoring the issues people have with the ears and looking at the dog as a whole, he seems a very well proportioned, fit and healthy boy. Lovely colour as well!

by Guest Thu Apr 04 2013, 18:30

Stunning dog, a lot of effort put into him which is obvious.

Welcome to the forum thumbs up

by Guest Thu Apr 04 2013, 18:49

beautiful dogs!

by **Andy** Thu Apr 04 2013, 18:54

Elvisfink wrote:
gem wrote:The first dog looks a nice clean lined balanced head would prefere the ear slightly smaller
The second dog looks awfull a mess the head is unbalanced and over eggagerated nothing nice about it for me and I could never do that to my dog its butchery nothing less

Hi Guys,
I just came across this site while search some photos on Google. Andy, thanks for liking Earl so much. Wow, Gem you’re the first person to call my dog Earl a mess. Worst yet you’re basing your statement on your dislike of cropped ears. If you weren’t so blinded by that issue you would see a dog that is 12pts away from his ADBA Championship. You would also see a dog that is very well balanced, very athletic, move unbelievably and is very well conditioned. Just an FYI Earl has achieved so far his CGC, ADBA Safe Dog 1, CSAU, URO1 and is a certified Therapy Dog. I’ve attached a few more photo of Earl and his butchered ears.
Cheers,

Earl & Poison Ivy

Both simply gorgous examples Love Struck

and a credit to you my freind Cool

... I've had that pic of Earl in my favourates for some time now thumbs up

by Elvisfink Thu Apr 04 2013, 19:09

Thanks everyone for the nice complements on Earl. I usually stay off most forums, but this was the first time anyone has called Earl a mess. Look, I understand Game Bred dogs aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, but if you’re going to make such a strong comment you should have some understanding of the breeds standard. It’s also rather ignorant to make such a statement off of one photo of the dog standing on a rock. I’ll be showing Earl this weekend at the ADBA show in Las Vegas Nevada here in the States. One of the Judges is Gary Hammonds. Gary also does not like cropped ears, but he also understands good confirmation. Every time I show Earl under Gary he always makes a disparaging remark regarding Earl’s ears, but Earl has never placed lower than 2nd under Gary.
Cheers,

by Guest Thu Apr 04 2013, 19:15

Def not a mess, one of the better examples I've seen personally. Supremely healthy looking, balanced and strong. Cropped ears is a very hot topic in the UK and sometimes ends up with comments disregarding the dog in general.

I also see you updated your pics with your girl Poison Ivy, she is totally beautiful also. You should stick around here, there are a lot of real pitbull lovers here. Many of us dream of owning a dog like that!

by **Andy** Thu Apr 04 2013, 19:32

I'm also a member on the same forum as yourself over your side of the pond, and I have to appoligise for not asking your permission to post the pic I had saved of Earl, but as you've seen, I am a big fan Big Grin

by **StuW** Thu Apr 04 2013, 22:01

Elvisfink wrote:

Absolutely gorgeous dog! Excellent body condition aswell.

by Guest Thu Apr 04 2013, 22:05

I'm also not a fan of cropped ears, but your dogs are certainly gorgeous & well put together!

A warm welcome to the forum, by the way!

by Guest Thu Apr 04 2013, 22:58

They are both great looking dogs and in fantastic shape. Good luck at the show

by Elvisfink Thu Apr 04 2013, 23:27

Here's a few shots of Miss Poison Ivy.

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by **Steve** Thu Apr 04 2013, 23:36

what do you feed them on? raw? dry?

by **Steve** Thu Apr 04 2013, 23:38

also would it be ok to use some of your photo for our website?

by Guest Fri Apr 05 2013, 03:32

A lot of people here don't like cropped ears, so I think that makes them judge the dog as a whole. Personally, I don't agree with ears being cropped, but your dogs' ears look neat, some dogs with cropped ears do look like they've been done horribly. Anyway, ignoring that, they're both absolutely stunning dogs Smile

by Guest Fri Apr 05 2013, 08:33

Two very beautiful stunning dogs. :-)

by Elvisfink Fri Apr 05 2013, 15:53

Tara wrote:A lot of people here don't like cropped ears, so I think that makes them judge the dog as a whole. Personally, I don't agree with ears being cropped, but your dogs' ears look neat, some dogs with cropped ears do look like they've been done horribly. Anyway, ignoring that, they're both absolutely stunning dogs

I understand that some people do not like cropped ears, but what kind of fool dismisses the entire dog because of it's ears? That's just asinine! I show under the ADBA and the head & neck are only worth 15pts. The standard states Ears- no preference should be given to cropped or uncropped ears, except to enhance the overall attractiveness of the individual dog. With that said the ear are a very, very small part of the overall confirmation of the dog. By the way Tara thank you very much for the compliment on Earl and Poison Ivy. Wish me luck I'm off to Vegas for a weekend of Dog Shows!!!

by Guest Fri Apr 05 2013, 16:03

Elvisfink wrote:
Tara wrote:A lot of people here don't like cropped ears, so I think that makes them judge the dog as a whole. Personally, I don't agree with ears being cropped, but your dogs' ears look neat, some dogs with cropped ears do look like they've been done horribly. Anyway, ignoring that, they're both absolutely stunning dogs

I understand that some people do not like cropped ears, but what kind of fool dismisses the entire dog because of it's ears? That's just asinine! I show under the ADBA and the head & neck are only worth 15pts. The standard states Ears- no preference should be given to cropped or uncropped ears, except to enhance the overall attractiveness of the individual dog. With that said the ear are a very, very small part of the overall confirmation of the dog. By the way Tara thank you very much for the compliment on Earl and Poison Ivy. Wish me luck I'm off to Vegas for a weekend of Dog Shows!!!

Well, from a non-expert point of view, it's just the fact that if they're so against cropped ears, they may be so fixated on the ears that they can't admire the rest of the dog. Good luck in your dog shows, feel free to keep us updated, we'd love to see/hear more from you and Earl and Poison Ivy Big Grin

by **Steve** Fri Apr 05 2013, 16:14

Steve wrote:also would it be ok to use some of your photo for our website?

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