blue staffords treated as lower class dogs?

First topic message reminder :

this might be an unusual topic for some but as a blue owner at shows it seems as though people look down on us and not just me other blue owners too,and as i talk to other blue owners hearing their experiences it seems a common trend that judges seem to not know how to judge blues and pass them by.

I myself have passed by in a line up, not had my dog examined as long as other more popular colours,been shown out of the ring without any kind of examination at the end of judging other than being "looked at",i have witnessed similar behaviour also.
I know owning a dog that's something out of the ordinary will be hard work getting noticed but they are a recognised colour they have tails and teeth and paws everything the same as other dogs,so why are they not treated as fairly in judging?
I appreciate that some matings can produce bad dogs but that is the same for any colour any breed the dog didn't choose to be born.
the only way i can see that good blue dogs be taken seriously is if we were to organise what shows we went to and show a true blue front so that we had to be taken seriously and judged fairly,
what are other peoples thoughts on this?

I don't think people have a problem with blue my only problem is bad breeding, breeding 2 blue dogs together is totally wrong in my eyes breeders only do it so they get a full litter of blues money grabbers

Steve wrote:I don't think people have a problem with blue my only problem is bad breeding, breeding 2 blue dogs together is totally wrong in my eyes breeders only do it so they get a full litter of blues money grabbers

The problem is, not everyone (like myself before I joined the forum) knows that breeding two blues together causes problems. Most just see it as a surefire way to get blue pups I think. But, as 'breeders' they should do their research - most of them are byb's though so don't bother

agriff wrote:

lolabon wrote:All dogs should be judged equal whatever colour,blue is a registered colour be it dark blue/grey or light blue/silver its still blue.a lot of time goes into all our dogs they're our best friend but why should one persons work and love for they're dog be dismissed so quickly by people.

I could not agree more

I agree too you payed the same money as everyone else so your dog deserves to be judged equally if you felt you were not treated fairly you have every right to make a complaint to the kc. Please dont think I was judging your dogs colour I wasnt I was just trying to add that a black brindle dog mated to a blue dog would have to carry the dilute gene to produce any blue puppies Im not colour racist I would have one of every colour if I could.
The breed records do show that at least half the kc registrations of litters registered last year and the year before were blue puppies that has come from the breed records from the kc its not made up its as they print every year you can find the info from the kennel club.
I dont know of any champion blue staffords in the breed but thats not to say there will never be any so good luck with your beautiful dogs wish you the best of luck ><

Oh no don't think I thought that we all love our dogs the same just some people I meet at shows should jump up their own behind than bad mouth my dog I only show as an extension of obedience class and for fun just some don't see it that way unfortunately.I appreciate what you say about breeding hence why I've done a bit of research and found a black dog with blue great grandparents and he had 2 blue litter mates so the blue gene is definitely there although hIs parents were both black.I don't know enough yet to be sure of blue to blue mating being such a risk so will avoid it.I'm not even sure I want to breed her as there are so many unwanted staffies.

agriff wrote:There are a lot of good blues and good dilute blues also some not so good dogs but to be fair the dogs should be judged as a dog not just a colour or breed

Blue is a dilute. You can't get a dilute of a dilute.

lolabon wrote:If the majority of registered blues exceeds all other colours then where are they? Hiding in the shadows due to the negative reaction maybe,if winning was so high on peoples lists then jump aboard the black brindle train as they are all we see not the highest registered colour.time for a blue revolution.

No. The majority have been bred by unscrupulous breeders with no thought as to quality - that's why you don't see them in the show ring; they're simply not good enough. It's always the same when you get a colour that becomes 'fashionable', people breed them from poor quality parents & so get poor quality pups. But the pups will still be registered with the KC as they are from KC registered parents.

I'm in no way saying that all blues are poor quality - they're absolutely not! However, out of every hundred registered, maybe only half a dozen are worth showing and 75% those may not be top quality.

So how did they lose their way and get in this state?

lolabon wrote:So how did they lose their way and get in this state?

They didn't 'lose their way'. They were just never bred for colour - there were known champion dogs that carried the dilute gene, and these were bred from because they were champions, not because they carried the blue gene. If blues were born that was fine, but if they weren't that was fine, too.

But then some people decided that because blue was an unusual colour they could deliberately breed for it & call it 'rare' - then they could ask a lot of money for the pups & make a fortune. No care was taken over which dogs/bitches were good enough & healthy enough to breed, neither was there any concern about health issues from breeding two dilutes together - just £££££s. Because of that, large numbers of poor quality/unhealthy blues have been produced & other people have jumped on the bandwagon to breed this popular 'rare' colour and so on.

In actual fact, although the colour blue has fairly recently been added to the breed standard wording, the colour itself has always been there - it used to be called 'washed out' black or fawn.

Just a blue update went to another show today and the blue bell got a 2nd in junior class also 1st in post graduate class and Blake and basil got 2nd and 3rd that was a 123 for the blues and blue bell got a 2nd in open class and basil got 3rd ,
Come on you blue,s also well done to all the other staffy