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Post by Ozzyosbert Mon Aug 09 2021, 18:38

Has has anybody got any feedback on Harkline staffords? Are the staffords from that kennel known to be of high quality?

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Post by Jenc Mon Aug 09 2021, 20:43

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Post by Jenc Mon Aug 09 2021, 20:48

Hi from me & Katy, welcome to our forum Smile I've not had any dealings with them but the dogs on their site look good thinking Are you looking to buy a pup from them?
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Post by gillybrent Mon Aug 09 2021, 20:54

They have bred champions, but I can't find a website to say what they test for.

Are you thinking of getting a pup from them?

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Post by Ozzyosbert Mon Aug 09 2021, 23:05

gillybrent wrote:They have bred champions, but I can't find a website to say what they test for.

Are you thinking of getting a pup from them?

I've bought a girl that was sired by Harkline Bohemian Rhapsody, which is son or grandson of Harkline Robbie the Bruce. Just wanted to know if anyone knew much about them. I know the Fella from the Kennel is the Chairman of some kind of Stafford show somewhere. Mr and Mrs Harkin.

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Post by Ozzyosbert Mon Aug 09 2021, 23:06

Jenc wrote:Hi from me & Katy, welcome to our forum Smile I've not had any dealings with them but the dogs on their site look good thinking Are you looking to buy a pup from them?
Thankyou for your kind welcome. It's nice to know members actually communicate with new people

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Post by Ozzyosbert Mon Aug 09 2021, 23:12

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Post by Jenc Tue Aug 10 2021, 07:56

It's good to have you here, we always welcome to people to our forum Smile We would love to see pics of your girl, her Dad is handsome Love Struck What's her name?
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Post by Ozzyosbert Tue Aug 10 2021, 08:34

Jenc wrote:It's good to have you here, we always welcome to people to our forum Smile We would love to see pics of your girl, her Dad is handsome Love Struck What's her name?

This is mam. Kenynten Seven seas Harkline Kennels 19123411
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Post by Ozzyosbert Tue Aug 10 2021, 08:39

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Jenc wrote:It's good to have you here, we always welcome to people to our forum Smile We would love to see pics of your girl, her Dad is handsome Love Struck What's her name?
My girl is called Luna aka Kentwone Keate

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Post by Jenc Tue Aug 10 2021, 11:40

Mam is beautiful so I'm guessing Luna is stunning coming from those two lines Love Struck
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Post by Ozzyosbert Tue Aug 10 2021, 15:11

Jenc wrote:Mam is beautiful so I'm guessing Luna is stunning coming from those two lines Love Struck

I'll put some pictures up today, she is a cute girl.

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Post by Jenc Tue Aug 10 2021, 21:06

I bet she is, can't wait to see her Love Struck
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Post by Nifty staffy Tue Aug 10 2021, 22:05

Hello and welcome from my girls and me.
Those parents look lovely, bet your girl is a real eyecatcher
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Post by Ozzyosbert Wed Aug 11 2021, 14:09

Jenc wrote:I bet she is, can't wait to see her Love Struck

Wouldn't sit still to take more than one

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Post by Ozzyosbert Wed Aug 11 2021, 14:12

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Post by Jenc Wed Aug 11 2021, 15:53

She's looks stunning Love Struck Lots more pics when you can nail her down please Smile
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Post by Ozzyosbert Wed Aug 11 2021, 15:56

Jenc wrote:She's looks stunning Love Struck Lots more pics when you can nail her down please Smile

Thankyou it's nice to hear. I'll try to get some more when not either sleeping or bouncing around like a lune.

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Post by Ozzyosbert Wed Aug 11 2021, 15:59

How do people manage to find these bloodlines that have tens of champions? Are they in circles that the everyday person can't be in?

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Post by Jenc Wed Aug 11 2021, 20:52

Oh my heart, she is beautiful Love Struck I guess you are now in the bloodline circle depending on whether you want to breed from Luna & if it's allowed from her breeders thinking
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Post by Ozzyosbert Wed Aug 11 2021, 20:55

Jenc wrote:Oh my heart, she is beautiful Love Struck I guess you are now in the bloodline circle depending on whether you want to breed from Luna & if it's allowed from her breeders  thinking

She's endorsed but only against export. When you say I am within the bloodline circle, was that in reply to my question about how people find such thorough champion heavy bloodlines?

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Post by Nifty staffy Wed Aug 11 2021, 21:55

Ah yes, she really is lovely !
How old is she ?
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Post by Ozzyosbert Wed Aug 11 2021, 21:56

Nifty staffy wrote:Ah yes, she really is lovely !
How old is she ?

10 weeks.

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Post by gillybrent Fri Aug 13 2021, 10:59

Ozzyosbert wrote:How do people manage to find these bloodlines that have tens of champions? Are they in circles that the everyday person can't be in?

Having champions in a pedigree doesn't necessarily mean that pups will be fantastic!

A good breeder doesn't just look at the red ink (champions), they look at the dogs & bitches in the ancestry & then decide which stud dog will suit their bitch best!

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Post by Jenc Fri Aug 13 2021, 13:48

She is certainly a beauty Love Struck
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Post by Ozzyosbert Fri Aug 13 2021, 13:57

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Ozzyosbert wrote:How do people manage to find these bloodlines that have tens of champions? Are they in circles that the everyday person can't be in?

Having champions in a pedigree doesn't necessarily mean that pups will be fantastic!

A good breeder doesn't just look at the red ink (champions), they look at the dogs & bitches in the ancestry & then decide which stud dog will suit their bitch best!

I kind of already knew that tbh, my girl hasn't got too many champions in her bloodline, but has got some that have been very successful within the show rings. I was just asking from a standpoint of how these kennels have found such dogs that able them to advertise their puppies to carry high numbers of champions and pass down 20+ champions to their puppies. I found my puppy by researching and actually talking to the breeder, he was very informative and knowledgeable and it was seeing his dogs that made my decision.

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Post by Ozzyosbert Fri Aug 13 2021, 13:59

Jenc wrote:She is certainly a beauty Love Struck

Thankyou I appreciate your praise. I'm half thinking about showing her, but haven't got a clue how, where, and whether she's actually show quality.

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Post by Jenc Fri Aug 13 2021, 20:23

Praise where praise is due, Luna is beautiful Love Struck I'm sure she is show quality but it's up to you if you want to show her!
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Post by Ozzyosbert Fri Aug 13 2021, 20:59

Jenc wrote:Praise where praise is due, Luna is beautiful Love Struck I'm sure she is show quality but it's up to you if you want to show her!

How do i go about doing it? Where do these shows happen, how do i learn ring craft. Any advice or guidance you can help with is massively appreciated.

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Post by gillybrent Sat Aug 14 2021, 07:37

I would approach her breeders & ask their advice. Also, contact your local SBT club.

Ring craft classes can be difficult to find, depending on which area you live in. Again, your breeders can help, as can your local SBT club. This FB page may help...

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Post by Nifty staffy Sat Aug 14 2021, 16:33

She certainly is a beauty and I’m sure you won’t be out of place in a show ring. Just bear in mind that showing is very very subjective and it depends on the judge’s tastes at that time. As long as you always have fun, the rest becomes bonus Smile
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Post by Ozzyosbert Sat Aug 14 2021, 16:38

Nifty staffy wrote:She certainly is a beauty and I’m sure you won’t be out of place in a show ring. Just bear in mind that showing is very very subjective and it depends on the judge’s tastes at that time. As long as you always have fun, the rest becomes bonus Smile

Yes and I'd imagine there's a massive amount of favouritism goes on aswell. Like if a judge knows the kennel your puppy is from or the person showing the dog, then it's a biased opinion. There's alot of stuff that's putting me off tbh.. I just want to show the world my girl and how proud I am of her beauty and quality.

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Post by Nifty staffy Sat Aug 14 2021, 16:48

Don’t be put off by showing but just be aware of what can go on, even if it doesn’t happen every time. It also depends at what level you are showing and the judge’s mood on the day.

I would suggest trying it if you have the opportunity and then make up your own opinion without preconceived ideas Smile
Maybe via your local canine school, they might have contacts they can put you in touch with. As to showing her off, there are plenty of ways to achieve that too Wink

My Opium was pulling in the compliments in obedience classes because she was an “atypic breed” (most are working dogs like shepherds and collies)
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Post by Ozzyosbert Sat Aug 14 2021, 16:53

Nifty staffy wrote:Don’t be put off by showing but just be aware of what can go on, even if it doesn’t happen every time. It also depends at what level you are showing and the judge’s mood on the day.

I would suggest trying it if you have the opportunity and then make up your own opinion without preconceived ideas Smile
Maybe via your local canine school, they might have contacts they can put you in touch with. As to showing her off, there are plenty of ways to achieve that too Wink

My Opium was pulling in the compliments in obedience classes because she was an “atypic breed” (most are working dogs like shepherds and collies)

I agree, I'll have to attend some classes first anyway so she's atleast going to give me her full attention when I ask her to. She's already sitting, and going to down position on command, well nearly everytime. I appreciate everyone's help so far.

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Post by gillybrent Sat Aug 14 2021, 17:06

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Nifty staffy wrote:Don’t be put off by showing but just be aware of what can go on, even if it doesn’t happen every time. It also depends at what level you are showing and the judge’s mood on the day.

I would suggest trying it if you have the opportunity and then make up your own opinion without preconceived ideas Smile
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My Opium was pulling in the compliments in obedience classes because she was an “atypic breed” (most are working dogs like shepherds and collies)

I agree, I'll have to attend some classes first anyway so she's atleast going to give me her full attention when I ask her to. She's already sitting, and going to down position on command, well nearly everytime. I appreciate everyone's help so far.

If you're going to show, the last thing you want is for her to sit every time you stop! With showing, your dog needs to stand still, in a certain position (depending on the breed) and look alert. That's why most 'showers' go to ringcraft.

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Post by Ozzyosbert Sat Aug 14 2021, 17:13

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Nifty staffy wrote:Don’t be put off by showing but just be aware of what can go on, even if it doesn’t happen every time. It also depends at what level you are showing and the judge’s mood on the day.

I would suggest trying it if you have the opportunity and then make up your own opinion without preconceived ideas Smile
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My Opium was pulling in the compliments in obedience classes because she was an “atypic breed” (most are working dogs like shepherds and collies)

I agree, I'll have to attend some classes first anyway so she's atleast going to give me her full attention when I ask her to. She's already sitting, and going to down position on command, well nearly everytime. I appreciate everyone's help so far.

If you're going to show, the last thing you want is for her to sit every time you stop! With showing, your dog needs to stand still, in a certain position (depending on the breed) and look alert. That's why most 'showers' go to ringcraft.

Oh yes that makes lots of sense lol.. I'm really struggling to find ring craft training near me(Darlington). It's frustrating to say the least.

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Post by NickyNiffWatters Wed Mar 29 2023, 13:41

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My girl Dakota was sired by crossguns Highlandfling at tagstane who was sired by Ch harkline Robbie the Bruce he was a stunning dog. My girl was a fantastic dog she had a temperament second to none , she would run all day for you obey everything first time every time couldn't fault her. I would say you'd be choosing a good line going harkline.
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