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Post by Jabs on Fri Apr 21 2017, 00:34

Hi I don't know if I'm on the right area of this site as I'm new but my partner came home with a puppy this week. I have always wanted a staffy but I'm not sure she is 100 percent staff can anyone tell me I love her to bits but I'm a bit worried she could be part pitbull as they are banned and would hate for her to be taken of us hope picture has uploaded
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Post by Jabs on Fri Apr 21 2017, 01:05

Another picture of her
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Post by LizP on Fri Apr 21 2017, 07:08

Hi and welcome from me and mine!

One thing I can tell you absolutely, that's one sweet puppy you've got there!

It's impossible to say at the moment what your girl will grow to look like, they can change quite a bit over the first months. What you need to know is that the definition of a 'pit bull type' for BSL (breed specific legislation) is based solely on looks. It doesn't matter what a dogs parents are, it is only what it looks like that counts. Don't worry, then, what her parents might have been.

The best advice is to socialise and train your puppy as well as you can. Go to puppy classes when you can (as long as it's a good, positive method trainer), and also train at home. These videos are great and are easy for you to do yourself

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By making sure your dog is well behaved and doesn't bother anyone, you should make sure no one has any concerns or reason to get the police involved in the first place. That really is your best insurance policy.





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Post by Jenc on Fri Apr 21 2017, 07:50

Hi from me & Katy, what a gorgeous girl you have there Love Struck


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Post by stella on Fri Apr 21 2017, 10:05

hia from me and sasha  Smile aww she is a gorgeous girl  Love Struck


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Re: New and need help is my pup a staff

Post by Jabs on Fri Apr 21 2017, 10:22

Hello Smile and thankyou she is lovely and so friendly. Unfortunately we don't know anything about her parents she was dumped in a box by some bins a family member heard her and took her home then contacted my partner we've had her 2 weeks now and she's extremely loving we are going to take her to puppy classes once she's had her second vaccination we've found a local trainer that does them the vets have classed her as staff cross
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Post by Mistys Mum on Fri Apr 21 2017, 10:38

Welcome from Misty and me. Your girl is gorgeous and well done on the rescue! Training classes are great fun! She looks Staffy to me x


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Post by Jabs on Fri Apr 21 2017, 10:45

Thankyou and so is your girl I love staffs I had a staff cross collie growing up she was such a sweet loyal dog and we grew up together I have a 6 year old son and want him to have a dog growing up they are already very close after just 2 weeks. We're counting down till we can take her cart wait
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Re: New and need help is my pup a staff

Post by -Ian- on Fri Apr 21 2017, 19:38

Well done on the rescue and isn't she a little treasure Big Grin


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Post by Woody66 on Fri Apr 21 2017, 21:01

She looks gorgeous. You, or your parents, must have had your hands full with a collie/staffie cross. We've had a few border collies and cross border collies over the years and are on to our first Staffies at the moment, I've got to say both breeds are right up there when it comes to energy and stamina. Smile
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Post by Jabs on Fri Apr 21 2017, 22:26

Yeah she was a bit but very loyal I was lucky to grow up with her hope out new little addition will be like that for my son...shes doing brilliant at the min learning very quickly. how cute are your 2 in that pic cuddled up
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Post by Woody66 on Fri Apr 21 2017, 22:33

That's lovely to hear, I'm sure she'll continue to pick things up quickly.
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Post by Woody66 on Fri Apr 21 2017, 22:57

And most of the time our two curl up like that together but they do have their moments when they go at each other tooth and claw. They sound like a pair of chimps when they are baring their teeth at each other.
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Post by Mia05 on Sat Apr 22 2017, 19:08

Awwwww!!!!!!


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Post by I❤dogs on Sun Apr 23 2017, 10:34

She is beautiful. Like Liz said, having her well socialised will stop anyone being concerned in the first place
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Re: New and need help is my pup a staff

Post by Jabs on Sat May 20 2017, 19:58

Hi everyone update on skye she is doin really well apart from we went to a local imdoor doggy park today to try help with her socialisation and we were asked to leave as one of the trainers said she was a pitbull we tried to explain that shes a staffy cross but we were told to go...im very upset as im very worried now that she is a pitbull and angry at them just telling her to go shes such a good pup...heres a recent pic what do u all think
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Post by Jenc on Sat May 20 2017, 20:21

What a ignorant trainer angry anyone with any breed knowledge would know she's not a pit bull!!!!! Does the trainer own the park to be able to say who can stay & who can't angry She's growing up beautifully Love Struck Unfortunately you will need to grow a thick skin as we all get nasty comments or looks because we have One of Those Dogs angry


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Post by Mistys Mum on Sat May 20 2017, 20:31

Absolutely disgusting!!!! I'm so angry! I hate all this discrimination against pits anyway. What a terrible ignorant trainer. 

Whereabouts are you based?

Your pup is a staff and is absolutely gorgeous xx


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Post by Jnestie84 on Sat May 20 2017, 20:38

I've just replied in your other post. We have a trainer in our area who refuses to train staffies. It really upset me but I feel sorry for her now as she is the one who is missing out.


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Post by -Ian- on Sat May 20 2017, 20:42

Find another place to go as that trainer is no trainer at all. No way would a good trainer send you away without knowing the dog first and certainly wouldn't be seeing aggression at such a young age.

I can understand why it would upset you but take comfort in the fact that the trainer is a numpty!! I also doubt very much Skye has any Pit in her at all. As Liz posted earlier on this thread, BSL doesn't discriminate as rather just lump all Type dogs together, so as long as Skye is socialised and well cared for you won't have any worries.


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Post by I❤dogs on Sat May 20 2017, 21:31

Skye is stunning. That trainer is a disgrace, I would put a complaint in. Don't let that idiot put you off classes as puppy classes are great for socialising. Sometimes word of mouth is a good way to find a good class
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Post by Jabs on Sat May 20 2017, 21:59

Shes the owner of the place...she was very off with us and we felt very uncomfortable weve just been looking and our local rspca does training and socialisation classes so wer goin to contact them.it was not very nice an i wont recommened the place to anyone what annoyed me more was our 6 year old was with us and got upset when his puppy couldnt go play and didnt quite understand when we tried to explain it to him..he loves his pup an wanted to enjoy the experience with her. Some ppl arw just awful...thankyou everyone xx
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Post by I❤dogs on Sat May 20 2017, 22:12

It's a real shame but there is lots of ignorant people around. A woman at my eldest school asked me if my puppy Rebel was one of 'those vicious' dogs. But for a supposed trainer it's ridiculous
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Post by Mia05 on Sun May 21 2017, 01:30

Im sorry you were treated this way as above its breed discimination and it boils my blood . U have overcame the first hurdle with regards to your son and pup bonding id try the local swing park as opposed to a dog park there will be all different dogs of various ages and a great way for socialisation. The important thing to remember is pups have a low attention span and keeping the training sessions to 10 minutes a day itll keep your dog interested just remember if they don't achieve the first time just spend a bit more time each day  id also say  everyone else in your house to use the same commands so your pup doesn't get confused.


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Post by LizP on Sun May 21 2017, 08:36

Whether or not your dog would be typed as a pit bull is not for some person in the street or some judgemental trainer to decide. The only ones who could make that call would be specially trained people, mostly police offiers. Based on my experience (at an RSPCA affiliated rescue centre), I have to say that it is possible Skye would be assessed if (IF) the police ever got involved for any reason or if she was picked up by the dog warden. Have a look at the photos on here, this is the type of dog that we get positively assessed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier

HOWEVER... Skye has not been assessed so someone not qualified telling what she is is only making a guess.

As I said before, keep on making her the best dog possible - fingers crossed that the new trainer is more dog orientated!

If (again IF) you do ever have an issue with the police, contact DDA Watch immediately. http://ddawatch.co.uk/


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Post by Jabs on Sun May 21 2017, 20:27

Thankyou liz we are just worried we are goin to get a dna check done. Then we know for sure and if she is part how much percentage wise she is a trainer has reccomened a website to us that also issue an exemption certificate with the results that can be up held in court too worse case senario.
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Post by LizP on Mon May 22 2017, 08:03

A DNA check means absolutely nothing, it is 100% based on looks. A court may take temperament into consideration but it is a minor consideration, looks are what count. DNA simply does not come into it.

In fact, the Advertising Standards Authority has just upheld a complaint (mine) against Viaguard for claiming that they can certify a dog isn't a pit. If there is another company making that claim, please let me know and I'll complain about them too! It makes me very cross that anyone could try and make money out of people's fears and desire to protect their dogs like this.

Please feel free to pass that on to the person who recommended the test, don't let other people waste their money with this scam either.


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Post by Mia05 on Mon May 22 2017, 11:23

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Post by I❤dogs on Mon May 22 2017, 18:11

I never knew that Liz, that's terrible. what an awful scam
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Post by Mistys Mum on Mon May 22 2017, 21:20

Wow that's awful Liz. Well done for making an official complaint I'm sure you have helped do many people who might have wasted money on this test.


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Post by Jabs on Tue May 23 2017, 22:13

We didnt know that thankyou ive heard theres a list of characteristics looks wise they use is that true
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Post by I❤dogs on Wed May 24 2017, 13:54

I don't know much about it I'm afraid. But I do think it's a list of measurements & physical traits. It's very unfair. My sister's friend has a pitbull & he's a lovely dog. They had to go to court to keep him & he has to be muzzled at all times in public
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Re: New and need help is my pup a staff

Post by Jabs on Wed May 24 2017, 17:17

This is the thing we just dont know if she is part pitbull or not we got her as a staffy cross an was told the mum escaped and when they got her back she was pregnant but the second you here the words pitbull we paniced as it means she could be taken from us....its awful
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Re: New and need help is my pup a staff

Post by I❤dogs on Wed May 24 2017, 22:53

I think the chances are she isn't so try not to worry. There isn't many Pitts going about so it is unlikely
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