Other than Staffies what other breeds do you like?

For me, the Bull Terrier, in white.

Others would be the Shar Pei, which I think is an amazing looking dog. Sadly, those very looks have led to health issues.

American Bulldogs seem like good looking dogs, not sure what their nature tends to be?

I have a long history with the shepherd breeds. I've had 2 Border Collies, 2 Belgian Shepherds & 2 German Shepherds (plus a GSD x Collie). I still have an appreciation of these breeds, although I doubt I would ever own one now.

Other than that, I'm really stuck on Staffords and Bullies!

bullterrier

i like a few cross breeds also bull terrier x staffie & staffie x american bulldogs but these cross breeds can fall under a type

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:American Bulldogs seem like good looking dogs, not sure what their nature tends to be?

There are two round my way, a 10/11 month old boy and a 6/7 month old girl. Both have really sweet temperaments even when Dempsey is going off on one of his "I'm boss!" routines! Whether they'll change as they mature, I don't know.

I have a question, I asked it to someone before (not on here), and they did answer, but it was such a complex answer that I was more confused, in the end.

The Staff is considered a pedigree, according to the KC of this country.

Other dogs are also considered pedigrees, even if, at some point in their history, they were literally crossed with other dogs, to secure a desired trait.

So.

(And I don't actually want to nor advocate this)

Let us say you wanted to take the qualities of a staff and an American BT, to create a new breed of dog, altogether.

How would you (or anyone), be able to get it formally recognised, by the KC, as a breed in it's own right?

I am guessing there would need to be several hundred litters of pups, over a long period of time, and that there was consistancy to size, etc?

*Shrugs*

I mentioned that I have always had a thing for Sharpei's, in my OP.

Have to say,, not encountered too many, in my life, less than six.

Anyone hear seen one in the recent past, or know one?

My last dog was a Border Collie ( we said goodbye to her last year at the ripe old age of 16 ) so i'd have to say I have a soft spot for Border Collies

We are both partial to English Bulldogs as we just had one that recently passed. I have also wanted a Rottweiler ever since I was a child. I'm just waiting to be able to move into a big enough house for him to be comfortable in.... as well as permission to adopt him.

english bull terrier, boxer, Rottweiler

american bull dogs and dog du bordoux (spelling) lol

English bull terrier,labrador,doberman,collie,german shepard,springer spaniel,siberian husky,alaskan malamute,great dane,rottweiler

Lisa & Cairo wrote:English bull terrier,labrador,doberman,collie,german shepard,springer spaniel,siberian husky,alaskan malamute,great dane,rottweiler

So only a couple Lisa!

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:Let us say you wanted to take the qualities of a staff and an American BT, to create a new breed of dog, altogether.

How would you (or anyone), be able to get it formally recognised, by the KC, as a breed in it's own right?

I am guessing there would need to be several hundred litters of pups, over a long period of time, and that there was consistancy to size, etc?

*Shrugs*

Nowadays it's a very difficult thing to do. Firstly, you would have to set up a breed club or society to oversee a breeding programme & draw up an interim breed standard. Then you would have to standardise the new breed so that all the traits that make it that breed are faithfully reproduced. Scrupulous breeding records would have to be kept and you would need to get a lot of people interested in owning/breeding the new breed. Then you would have to prove all of this to the kennel club.

It would take YEARS for the KC to even consider the proposal, and years more for them to actually begin the process of integration with other pedigree dogs.

For me it's boxers, dobies, EBT's, pitbulls and rotties

Caryll wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:Let us say you wanted to take the qualities of a staff and an American BT, to create a new breed of dog, altogether.

How would you (or anyone), be able to get it formally recognised, by the KC, as a breed in it's own right?

I am guessing there would need to be several hundred litters of pups, over a long period of time, and that there was consistancy to size, etc?

*Shrugs*

Nowadays it's a very difficult thing to do. Firstly, you would have to set up a breed club or society to oversee a breeding programme & draw up an interim breed standard. Then you would have to standardise the new breed so that all the traits that make it that breed are faithfully reproduced. Scrupulous breeding records would have to be kept and you would need to get a lot of people interested in owning/breeding the new breed. Then you would have to prove all of this to the kennel club.

It would take YEARS for the KC to even consider the proposal, and years more for them to actually begin the process of integration with other pedigree dogs.

Yeah, as I thought - a LOT of work.

Thanks for the explaination.

I like bull terriers and beagles.. and even pit bulls !!

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:I mentioned that I have always had a thing for Sharpei's, in my OP.

Have to say,, not encountered too many, in my life, less than six.

Anyone hear seen one in the recent past, or know one?

There was a Shar Pei at puppy class last night. First time I've seen one. It was a very aloof dog, sadly it seemed to have a hard time with it's breathing.

Kelpies for me. My parents have had them all my life and have 5 right now lol.

Bull terrier and greyhounds are my other favourites

I am partial to northern inuits.....

If you dont know what they are heres a link
http://www.northerninuit.net/

Summerisle wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:I mentioned that I have always had a thing for Sharpei's, in my OP.

Have to say,, not encountered too many, in my life, less than six.

Anyone hear seen one in the recent past, or know one?

There was a Shar Pei at puppy class last night. First time I've seen one. It was a very aloof dog, sadly it seemed to have a hard time with it's breathing.

Really?

Not heard of them having breathing issues, as a health problem.

The skin, yes, the skin, but not heard about breathing.

May just have been an issue with that one dog?

Marty wrote:Bull terrier and greyhounds are my other favourites

Never really been my thing, need a LOT of space for one, and not sure what they are like as pets, and with other dogs.

There is one round here which always tries to lunge at my Staff, but he is on a lead, so nothing happens.

Just thinking out loud here, but I have seen a few Staff/Bull Terrier crosses, and I am not sure it works all that well.

I am sure someone will say otherwise, and that's fine, but I don't think crossing a BT with anything really works, probably due to the head of the BT.

A Staff and an American Bulldog would work better, imo.

Maybe someone has even seen such a cross.

Dogo canario is the only breed for me other then the staffie....

i've seen some very looking bull X staffies but with crossbreeds they all look differnet

Sierra wrote:Dogo canario is the only breed for me other then the staffie....

Is it a large Mastiff like dog?

I just ask, because I did live in the Canaries, and saw a few, I think...

Steve wrote:i've seen some very looking bull X staffies but with crossbreeds they all look differnet

True, but some would surely be even dangerous.

Imagine if somehow a Rotty impregnated a JRT.

Surely the pups could never go to full term?

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

Sierra wrote:Dogo canario is the only breed for me other then the staffie....

Is it a large Mastiff like dog?

I just ask, because I did live in the Canaries, and saw a few, I think...

Yes it is....

You can see pictures of it under other bully breeds....

Sierra wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

Sierra wrote:Dogo canario is the only breed for me other then the staffie....

Is it a large Mastiff like dog?

I just ask, because I did live in the Canaries, and saw a few, I think...

Yes it is....

You can see pictures of it under other bully breeds....

Thought so.

Don't see many in Britain.

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

Sierra wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

Sierra wrote:Dogo canario is the only breed for me other then the staffie....

Is it a large Mastiff like dog?

I just ask, because I did live in the Canaries, and saw a few, I think...

Yes it is....

You can see pictures of it under other bully breeds....

Thought so.

Don't see many in Britain.

No they are not so many there...

Maybe they don't like the cold

i think they may fall under a type

Steve wrote:i think they may fall under a type

You mean on the banned list?

I don't think so.

they do... dogs dont need be on the banned list to fall under the type, these dog are not on our officail breeds

Steve wrote: they do... dogs dont need be on the banned list to fall under the type, these dog are not on our officail breeds

Well, what 'type' is it then?

When does a Staff cross get classed as being a 'type'..?

What is a ‘type’ of banned dog?

Whether your dog is a banned type depends on what your dog actually looks like, rather than the breed or name by which it is called.

If your dog matches many of the characteristics of a Pit Bull Terrier, it may be treated as a banned type, no matter what type or breed its parents were. (Cross-bred and mongrel dogs can have the characteristics of a Pit Bull Terrier.)
Pit Bull type dogs

Pit Bull types can be called:

• American Staffordshire Terriers
  
• Irish Staffordshire Terriers
  
• Irish Blue or Red Nose

Some kinds of American Bulldogs have been found to be Pit Bull types.

Staffordshire Bull Terriers

Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not listed in the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991. You are allowed to own this breed of dog.

any crossbreed or unofficial breeds be class a type if it's similar to a ban breed

Sounds v vague.

Who makes the final call, a vet?

i wouldn't have a clue.

What can happen to your dog

The police, or local council dog warden, can seize (capture and keep) your dog. A member of the public can also report your dog to the police. Your dog does not need to be acting dangerously or be out of control.If your dog:

• is in a public place, the police do not need a warrant (permission from a court) to seize it
  
• is in a private place (like your home), the police must get a warrant to enter and seize your dog
  
• is in a private place and the police have a warrant for something else (for example drugs search), they can seize your dog
  

Once seized, your dog will be kept in police kennels - this could be for several weeks or months. You will not be allowed to visit your dog.

Judging whether your dog is a banned type

A police dog expert, or an expert used by the council, will make an assessment of the physical characteristics of your dog. They will judge the type of dog you have and whether it appears to be, or could be,

a danger to the public. Following the assessment, your dog will either:

• be released
  
• be kept in kennels while the police (or council) apply to a court
  

You can give up ownership of your dog but you cannot be forced to. If you
do, your dog could be destroyed without you even going to court.

Going to court

It is your responsibility to prove that your dog is not a banned type - which the court may accept. If you cannot prove it is not a banned type of dog (or you plead guilty), you will be convicted of a criminal offence and receive a criminal record. You may be eligible for legal aid.The maximum penalty for illegal possession of a banned dog is a fine of £5,000 and/or six months' imprisonment.

The court will either:

• grant an order to return the dog to you if you prove it is not a type of banned dog
  
• order that your dog is destroyed if it's judged to be a type of banned dog
  
• grant an exemption if it thinks your dog is not a danger to the public and put it onto the government's Index of Exempted Dogs
  

Index of Exempted Dogs

Your dog can only be added to the Index of Exempted Dogs (IED) following a court order - you cannot ask for your dog to be put on the register. You will find out how to get a 'Certificate of Exemption' for your dog following any court order.

Conditions of being on the IED
If your dog is put on the list it will have to be:

• neutered
  
• tattooed
  
• microchipped
  
• kept on a lead and muzzled at all times when in a public place
  
• kept in a secure place so it can't escape
  
• insured against injuring third parties
  

You will have to pay for this.

As the owner you must:

• take out insurance against your dog injuring other people
  
• be over the age of 16 to own or be in charge of the dog
  
• show the Certificate of Exemption when asked by a police officer or local council warden, either at the time or within five days
  
• let the IED know if you permanently change address, or if your dog dies
  

The Certificate of Exemption is valid for the life of the dog - as long as the above conditions are met.

•neutered

•tattooed

•microchipped

•kept on a lead and muzzled at all times when in a public place

•kept in a secure place so it can't escape

•insured against injuring third parties

Most of that should be standard for owners of any dog, imo.

Apart from the muzzle, unless it really is a biter.

tattooed

lmao janey

janey wrote:tattooed

Chipped at least.

I know some use a small 'tattoo', in is, AFAIK, quite non invasive, and may be more visible, if your dog was stolen, for example?

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

Summerisle wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:I mentioned that I have always had a thing for Sharpei's, in my OP.

Have to say,, not encountered too many, in my life, less than six.

Anyone hear seen one in the recent past, or know one?

There was a Shar Pei at puppy class last night. First time I've seen one. It was a very aloof dog, sadly it seemed to have a hard time with it's breathing.

Really?

Not heard of them having breathing issues, as a health problem.

The skin, yes, the skin, but not heard about breathing.

May just have been an issue with that one dog?

It could have been or I just mistook it for having problems. It seemed to be grunting and gasping, possibly just over excited from being there.

In regards to Canary dogs, they were in the news 10 odd years ago for the wrong reasons in the US, 2 of them killed a woman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Whipple

Knoller and Noel obtained the two dogs, named Bane and Hera, through their relationship with Paul "Cornfed" Schneider, who was a Pelican Bay State Prison inmate and a leading member of the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang, who were attempting to start a dog fighting business

Oh dear...

I might at I like all of the Bull breeds aswell.

What from the terrier groups are peeps not too into?

I think Airedales can be a problem, at least those I have met...

jack russell (i know they not on the KC official breed) but these dog are evil little dog!! not all but most are..

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:What from the terrier groups are peeps not too into?

I think Airedales can be a problem, at least those I have met...

I like most terriers. Although I wouldn't want to own most of them! Not keen on the 'fluffy' ones like the Tibetan Terriers, and I'd be very careful with something like an Airedale. I do like Border Terriers, though - got plenty of guts! My vet has several Borders & he says they're worse than the Bull Breeds!

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

Steve wrote:i've seen some very looking bull X staffies but with crossbreeds they all look differnet

True, but some would surely be even dangerous.

Imagine if somehow a Rotty impregnated a JRT.

Surely the pups could never go to full term?

I had a German Shepard dog x terrier of some kind.
The mum was the terrier.