Staffy shapes & sizes

My rescue Pup was given to me as a Staffy Cross.When hes been to the vets she thinks hes full staffy!
Hes got quite long legs & a longer snout and when he yawns he has the staff mouth shape but he hasnt got the short square jaw......

I personally dont care what he is as hes my baby but Ive been told there are 3 different types of staffy and he just isnt the shape and size people expect for a staffy!
Is there any truth in the 3 different types?

Also how can I get him to stop wanting to pull ears when he meets other dogs in play? He means no harm but hes a little rough to watch,altho his staffy friend saffy loves it when they play like that!!

Hes seems to have stopped weeing and pooing in the house now,only took a couple of weeks and hes 14 weeks and growing fast!

There is only one Staffy! But the size and shape varies emensly as to wether they have more bully or terrier in them if that makes sense. x

Yea there is only 1 staff. Was he born in rescue? If so rescue wouldnt of known the dad so most say staff cross to be on the safe side but he may be a full staff u wont really ever no lol not that it really matters im sure. In regards to rough play its a staffy trate im affraid if he gets 2 much call him back to you and put him on lead for 5 mins with a firm no and just keep repeating it, he get it x

He was found in a box in Kensington & Chelsea at 8 weeks and I brought him from a rescue centre at 10 weeks old

I know they always tell you they are cross to be safe but he just hasnt got that snubby nose lol!! His legs nose and pawgs are long/huge lol!!!

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He is very cute, but you'll never know either way if he is full or cross, but you love em all the same

He is gorgeous and with those feet he certainly will make his stance on the world. As Janey says you will love him all the same

I really dont care whether he is full or cross. Hes not being studded ir anything and theres no purpose for me knowing except by what people have told me & because he doesnt fit the "average" staffy appearence.
Hes a character and never far from my side ( well cheek or neck as he insists on laying on those 2 places if he can ;-) lol)

Hes a beauty to me xx

That stubby nose u are taking about often comes from a certain kennels, someone will correct me if im wrong but i think crossguns are breeding there staffs with quite a short snout x

blaze wrote:In regards to rough play its a staffy trate im affraid if he gets 2 much call him back to you and put him on lead for 5 mins with a firm no and just keep repeating it, he get it x

NikkiArnie wrote:He was found in a box in Kensington & Chelsea at 8 weeks and I brought him from a rescue centre at 10 weeks old

Aw, poor little pup! At least he's found you, now!

blaze wrote:That stubby nose u are taking about often comes from a certain kennels, someone will correct me if im wrong but i think crossguns are breeding there staffs with quite a short snout x

Yes some kennels are breeding a shorter muzzled staff, whilst others are breeding longer muzzled ones! That doesn't mean that one is more staffy than the other, though, just a different interpretation of the breed standard!

By the way, he looks pretty much a full staffy to me, although it's hard to judge his size from the pics - he's gorgeous!

blaze wrote:That stubby nose u are taking about often comes from a certain kennels, someone will correct me if im wrong but i think crossguns are breeding there staffs with quite a short snout x

Sorry blaze im not saying your wrong but all good kennels breed that look including crossguns because thats how the standard says the dog should look

The crossguns dogs do tend to have very short muzzles, whilst some other kennels are breeding more 'terrier' type dogs with sloghtly longer muzzles. Both are within the breed standard - just different interpretations.

Head and Skull
Short, deep though with broad skull. Very pronounced cheek muscles, distinct stop, short foreface, nose black.

This just means that the length foreface, (stop to nose), is shorter than the length of the head (occiput to stop). Breeders have always interpreted that the way they prefer to see it!

Caryll wrote:The crossguns dogs do tend to have very short muzzles, whilst some other kennels are breeding more 'terrier' type dogs with sloghtly longer muzzles. Both are within the breed standard - just different interpretations.

Head and Skull
Short, deep though with broad skull. Very pronounced cheek muscles, distinct stop, short foreface, nose black.

This just means that the length foreface, (stop to nose), is shorter than the length of the head (occiput to stop). Breeders have always interpreted that the way they prefer to see it!

Crossguns have done fantastic with there dogs because they are ideal to the standard Ive never seen a terrier type stafford winning as more terrier, more bull is not the ideal a 50/50 split is what the stafford should be any variation unbalances the head.
It doesnt matter how you like your dogs personally to look the standard is set

Thanks for all the info guys,much appreciated!

Even tho I dont think he looks like a typical staffy people recognise him as a staffy so he cant be far off lol!!

Hes a little monkey but Im so glad we found him and gave him his forever home,hes got such a great personality even tho he doesnt respond to anyone but me!! ;-)

I totally agree! But there will always be those who interpret a written standard the way they want to! Therefore, you'll get staffs with a shorter foreface (some much too short) & staffs with a longer foreface (some much too long!). They're still within the standard, but won't do so well in the show ring. But if you're not going to show, does it matter?

NikkiArnie wrote:
Im so glad we found him and gave him his forever home,hes got such a great personality

That's the thing that really matters!

Caryll wrote:I totally agree! But there will always be those who interpret a written standard the way they want to! Therefore, you'll get staffs with a shorter foreface (some much too short) & staffs with a longer foreface (some much too long!). They're still within the standard, but won't do so well in the show ring. But if you're not going to show, does it matter?

No it doesnt matter ha ha
Just suprised the breed record holder kennel was chosen to interprit the short muzzle

Hahaha! Purely because it's one of the best known kennels around!

I have no desire to "show" him just to show him off!!!

He wont be studded,hes our family pet so its no concern to me how long his nose is lol!! I actually like his nose being a little longer!! I dont think he will be typically a stocky short nosed staffy but hes my staffy,thats all that matter to me x

NikkiArnie wrote:I have no desire to "show" him just to show him off!!!

He wont be studded,hes our family pet so its no concern to me how long his nose is lol!! I actually like his nose being a little longer!! I dont think he will be typically a stocky short nosed staffy but hes my staffy,thats all that matter to me x

Awwww Thats a lovely way to put it!!!!! what a lucky little puppy he is and such a handsome little man

NikkiArnie wrote:I have no desire to "show" him just to show him off!!!

hes my staffy,thats all that matter to me x

That's really nice!

Thanks!! I think hes mega handsome (of course) and as much as his eating my carpet didnt please me I love his nutty ways and the fact he loves me best!!
I have 5 children so (please no moaning at me) hes my new baby now mine are growing up!!
He mite not be so lucky is he wakes me this early again tho haha!! ;-)

All joking aside,Im happy hes happy and your comments and support is much appreciated,Thankyou x

He looks a bit like mine.
I bought mine when he was 8 weeks old and was told he was crossed with a lurcher but as he's got bigger he looks more like a SBT x APBT,when we go on walks most people ask if he's crossed with a pitbull.

@ 8 weeks

@ 13 weeks

People ask the same about Moo lol! She's just a cross thats all x

janey wrote:She's just a cross thats all x

Just a cross?

How dare you! She's gorgeous Moo!

Moo says thanks and can she come live with you and Dempsy cause you respect her more (she promises to be nice to Dempsy )