Please can someone advise me on my poor boy

Hi, this is a very longwinded tale and I dont quite know where to start...... here goes. We got our pup rocky in late july (he was 10 weeks old), he seemed a perfectly healthy bouncy pup and was really chunky, although as he was the last pup to be homed so I cant compare him to his siblings. He had his immunisations and then soon after he injured his rear leg and it was then his problems seemed to start. He began losing fur under his neck, under armpits and around his groin area, felt oily and had brown waxy ears and the base of his nails were brown. The vet prescribed malaseb at this point and wasnt really sure what was going on but mentioned that he was 'yeasty' and it may be a food intolerance. When I got him from the breeder he was on eukanuba, after loads of research on the internet I found out this probably wasnt the best food!!! So changed him onto james wellbeloved salmon and potato which he would not eat, the vet told me to persevere which I did for almost a week but rocky seemed to hate it and would only eat a tiny bit when really coaxed, he obviously lost quite a bit of weight over that period, the vet was still adamant that he wouldnt 'starve' himself!!!!! I wasn't willing to take the risk on such a small pup. I cant remember exactly which food I changed him onto after that one but we have tried many of the hypoallergenic ones, none of which he really liked, he would just pick at them but wouldnt eat the fish flavoured ones AT ALL.

After his second vaccinations I started at a puppy training class, the training centre was also a doggy daycare and stocked raw meat and after long talks with the owner I decided to try him on raw, he took to it immediately, seemed to thrive, his skin settled and fur started growing back, I was so happy that i'd found something that suited him. However, after a few months he started with mucousy diarrhoea and frequently went to the toilet in his crate, his skin went very dry again and he lost loads of weight, I decided to take him to a different vet for a second opinion. The vet did skin scrapes for demodex as she thought it looked like this, these were negative. She also did skin swabs and put him on amoxycillin. She called me to say the swabs had shown a staph infection and that the amoxycillin would cure it.

A couple of weeks later I got up to find rocky in his crate yelping he couldnt weight bear and was shaking, I went back to my original vets as it is 2 mins away from my house and the other vet would have taken half hr in traffic. I immediately thought it was to do with the leg he injured, however, after examination it turned out he had a raging temp and simply couldnt stand, they gave him some kind of injection, think it was rimadyl (maybe not though) and told me that if he wasnt pottering about by the afternoon I needed to bring him back, I was also given anti-inflammatories, painkillers and antibiotics (AGAIN!!!!), by the afternoon he seemed quite a lot better and was able to stand, over the next couple of weeks he improved and that was the end of that.

He then started with the runs which turned into very bloody diarrhoea and then he was just passing pure bright red blood. Back to the vets we went and he was put on Metronidazole and I was told to get him off the raw diet as he had probably got some kind of parasite, so back to square one . I knew I needed to get something as close to raw as possible so put him on naturediet trays (chicken and rice), he was ok on this but lost weight and his diarrhoea continued, the vet prescribed more metronidazole and said he 'probably had colitis' and that his food probably wasnt agreeing with him and to try Wafcol, arrrggghh more FISH!!! I did buy some to try but low and behold no success, this was just before christmas 2012. At this point he wasn't bald anywhere, his skin was starting to go a little dry but I put this down to the diarrhoea and him being dehydrated. A client of mine at work told me that her dog suffered with skin probs and since staring burns pork and potato her dog was doing amazing so I got some and WOW he immediately wolfed it down, I only had him on this for 2 weeks and his condition deteriorated massively, he went bald under his armpits down to his elbows, around his groin, got brown patches in his nails and brown gunky ears again ?yeast infection. After reading up on this I realised it was probably due to this food having something like 35% potato and quite a lot of maize in, I'm led to believe yeast feeds on carbs or sugars. I compared almost every single hypo-allergenic food on the market and decided to put him on wainwrights duck and brown rice trays as the amount of rice is tiny and I put a handful of the same dry food on top (Im trying to stay away from chicken as I cant be sure that's not what caused the diarrhoea (I was giving him lot of chicken when feeding raw and then the naturediet was chicken so wanted to completely eliminate it). He is currently on this and loves it but he is in a state, I think he maybe getting little bits of fur growing back but is completely bald under armpits and groin/belly,has small scabs all over and very very dry flaky skin. I'd been recommended a really good local vet so took him there tonight, He basically told me rocky is a very complex case and needs loads of tests doing but cant get him in til next monday and to keep him on the same food and not to put anything on his skin. Im heartbroken and don't feel I can wait a week (why would he make me wait a week?), his tummy is playing up again, he is getting thinner and his skin is shocking. The vet said he appears to be very undernourished, which he probably is as he's had on/off diarrhoea for months. Part of me wants to put him back on raw as I have read about dogs with compromised immune systems benefiting from raw but I think the vet will go mad. He's not given me any indication as to what he thinks could be wrong and was rather off hand with me. I just don't know what to do. I'm so scared that they are going to suggest putting him to sleep. The whole thing is wearing me out, I have my own business to run and 2 young children to deal with. I love rocky to pieces and want him better but I feel like hes got some terrible disease and that i'm gonna lose him . To cap it off i'm not sure my insurance will cover the costs due to my first vets not sending in insurance paperwork and me thinking I was insured when I wasn't, that is another story, but im worried sick as all these tests are gonna cost a fortune and if they won't pay up I cant afford to pay.

Please if somebody can help me as to whether raw is the way to go with this poor boy or whether to give the wainwrights trays more time (he's only done 11 days on this) and if anyone has any opinion as to what could be wrong with him. I'm thinking he may have had a weak immune system as a pup and that the amount of illness and antibiotics he's had has lead to this.

Sorry its been so long but thought i better go through the full story, thank you in advance.

Gonna upload pics of his skin, thank you again (actually feel better for writing it all down)

I can't really help that much, when I was having problems with mine, diarrhea (every night!) I had her health tested for everything and all came back clear. I was advised Royal canin chicken and rice, its a recovery diet and certainly was our first step to recovery.

I hope you find an answer or a solution Xx

Do you know if your vet has tested for Pancreatitis or EPI? http://www.globalspan.net/epi.htm

Wow ! Poor you, they are such a worry aren't they.

I went thru a skin prob with my girl as a pup, she had 'an over abundance of the staph bacteria' she had weeks of antibiotics and steroids. I switched her to a hypoallergenic food and she improved.
Today she's almost 2 and perfect condition.

Im going they a skin issue with my male who is 10mths, he had ear infection and skin folliculitis which has led to fur loss ! He looks like a neglected ragbag !

Both mine were recently switched to a raw diet which I'm sticking to.

It's unlikely u will ever find a vet that will support a raw diet ! My vet looked at me like I was an alien !

Your pup is obviously run down, suffering from prolonged diahorrea, I'm shocked you vet hasn't kept him in to do a full work up on him, bloods( to rule out systemic causes and to check liver, kidneys n thyroid working as they should) scrapes n plucks...to rule out nasties, mites, bugs, allergies, etc.

Thank you all for getting back to me so quick, I overheard the vet mentioning something about rockys pancreas so maybe that was what he was referring to. Ive read the sheet on epi and a lot of it seems to fit, praying he hasnt got it though as it seems a total nightmare to control. Im really not happy with what the vet said (or didnt say!!) and especially that he's sent me away for a week!!! I know the raw feeding lady at the doggy daycare place uses a vet who isnt totally against raw feeding, I feel like I need another opinion, Is it bad to get another opinion? The one good thing I can say about my first vets is that they would have had him in the same day or next morning for bloods etc.

I'm waiting for some advice from a GSD forum (GSDs are very prone to EPI) as to the best diet to follow. I know most of them seem to do better on raw, but your dog may have an intolerance to chicken - many dogs do, including my own!

Hopefully somebody will come back to me tonight & I can pass some info to you.

What went wrong with your insurance?

Hi Caryll, Thank you soooo much, Im actually crying with happiness that im actually getting some help with the poor little man.

With regards to the insurance I basically joined the 'healthy puppy scheme' when i took rocky for his first vaccs and they were meant to give me a free 4 weeks insurance with petplan but accidentally didnt sign me up for it. I found out they hadnt done it when rocky injured his leg and was livid but the receptionist said I had some free cover with his microchip (cover is with allianz animal care options) same group as pet plan!!!! So I didnt take it any further. However the vet noted at his second imms that his skin looked red so because I wasnt actually insured at that point the insurance have tried saying his pyrexia was pre-existing???? and I know as soon as his skin is mentioned they will refuse it. If the vets had done what they were supposed to I would have been covered from his first imms when there was absolutely nothing wrong with him and we would be covered.

Oh I forgot to mention he is constantly biting and licking his front and back paws and his man parts.

So, are you insured now?

If so, and if what he's got is EPI, then ask your vet not to mention the skin problem! Just to say that tests have indicated EPI & treatment etc is for that & that alone. They might accept that.

Oh Amara, I wish I could help you and Rocky. It's so worrying for you.

I have no experience of this at all I'm afraid but will just float a few ideas out:-

If your vet was off-hand, it means he was puzzled. Doesn't mean to say that he/she was not concerned, they probably are, but are loathe to admit that they didn't have the answers - YET. (Professional pride, I am encountering it right now with my mother's puzzling illness).

Vet mentioning pancreas - this indicates that they are maybe thinking diabetes, and here again I know nothing about diabetes in dogs but I'll bet a lot of people on this site do and can advise.

Raw feeding - again I know nothing about this, I contemplated feeding raw for my very fussy feeder but he just doesn't want to know so I can't comment. But again, there are members on this site who are experts on raw feeding.

Your last comment - a Full Blood Count would seem to be necessary, as well as Urine and Faecal examination. Go to another vet if your vet refuses to do this.

Oh, and my dog hates fish as well. Makes life more difficult I know.

What a horrible situation for you and Rocky, I wish I could help, but all IO can do is send you both >< ><

PS Just seen Caryll's advice, she's a great girl and knows what she's talking about. I know nothing about EPI so won't comment.

Yes im insured and have been since a couple of days after his second imms. The vet was quite unapproachable and just said that due to whats happened I shouldnt rely on the insurance due to it being related to his skin, made me feel so much better that did....... NOT!!! Hes meant to be a really good vet but I have to say I don't feel happy at all but how many times can one person move vets!!!!!! I need a vet I feel comfortable with.

Try bathing the sore bits with a solution of apple cider vinegar, dry thoroughly & maybe smear some Sudocrem on them just to take away the irritation.

Diet-wise, the consensus of opinion at the moment seems to be either raw (but maybe without chicken, as it sounds like your dog might be chicken intolerant) or a kibble that is grain free and hypo allergenic.

If you want to try the raw again, have a look through these....

http://rawfed.com/myths/preymodel.html
http://www.rawmeatybones.com/petowners/feedyourdogrmb.php
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t14787-raw-diet

If I get anything further from the GSD people I'll let you know!

I can't help, I have no experience of this at all really, but there's nothing wrong with going to another vet if you're not happy with how the current vet is handling things. The raw diet works a lot for dogs with skin problems, but I think if it is down to the chicken or if that's part of it, sticking with the Wainwright's at least for the time being might give you more answers. I'm sorry I can't give you any advice, but I really hope you find the answer and the solution soon.

amara wrote:Yes im insured and have been since a couple of days after his second imms. The vet was quite unapproachable and just said that due to whats happened I shouldnt rely on the insurance due to it being related to his skin, made me feel so much better that did....... NOT!!! Hes meant to be a really good vet but I have to say I don't feel happy at all but how many times can one person move vets!!!!!! I need a vet I feel comfortable with.

Do you know anybody with a dog who can recommend a good vet in your area?

When we got Dempsey I started at one vet & I really wasn't happy with them. My boss recommended the vet he goes to & I changed & never looked back. It's a little further away, but I trust the vets at this practice & they are happy to talk to me, explain things & they will listen to me! A good vet is worth his weight in gold (and often gets paid it!) & it's worth looking around till you find the right one!

If it's EPI, & I'm by no means saying that it definitely is, then the illness isn't a result of the skin condition, the skin condition is a result of the illness! So, the original vet would have mis-diagnosed & you should be covered. However, if you do change vets, you'll need to discuss this with them.

Here's another website that might be useful...
http://www.epi4dogs.com/

Thank you everyone. Going to bath him in apple Cider vineger solution now (luckily have some in as I put it in his food) and smother him in sudocrem. Before I do that I will take some pics and try to upload them.

Do keep us up to date with what's happening! And if I can find out anything else I'll put it on here straight away.

A couple of replies that might be useful.....

"Raw can help with EPI. You (well, your friend) would either need to find raw pigs (I think it's pigs - not sure if it can be any meat) pancreas (it's relatively hard to come across, but it's good stuff if you do get it), or you can give the powder that you'd put on kibble onto raw and get it into her that way "

"My Max did well on Quantum select protein anything else went through like a dose of salts although his case was mild -
http://www.vetro.co.uk/select.htm"

what an awful scenario, i hope everything comes together for you and your dog is sorted out quickly, you will get some top advice here from the regulars (i'm a novice with staffs) as you have found out with caryll, good luck

Thank you for all the advice given. Am just trying to set up a photobucket account to upload pics.

Just followed the http://www.epi4dogs.com/ link and OMG im crying again< poor Riland, that is heartbreaking, im hoping and praying rocky doesnt have this illness.

Hope everything goes ok ><

Thought this might be helpful...

"I always thought raw helped with EPI, your friend could always call Nurturing By Nature, they are great to discuss diets with and will help with supply if they can. "

http://www.nurturingbynature.co.uk/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1818

Just an update, rockys skin doesnt look quite as bad today so ive sprayed him again with the apple cider vineger, he also hasnt bit his feet at all today but is now scratching his ears. Been recommended another vet, further away but i dnt care how far i need to go. Seeing him today at 4pm so will update after this. Thank u again for all advice and concerns

Let us know what the new vet sugests.

Even if it is EPI, it isn't the end of the world. It can be managed!

Any news?

Just another couple of snippets which I hope might be useful. Hopefully, all these tips & hints will be useless because he doesn't have EPI!

[QUOTE=kita;312006]Although a bit old now this site may help:

Cheetah's Canine Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency EPI Home Page

This page of it answers questions:

Cheetah's Canine EPI Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency FAQs

With EPI it is important to avoid fat (as the dog cannot digest it). A friend had a dog with it and she was told if she fed chicken to take the skin off it and just feed the meat, if she fed fish she had to feed white fish (cod etc.).
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A link for commercial food if you don't want to go raw...
http://www.nutrixpetfoods.co.uk/acatalog/duck-and-potato-cereal-grain-free-dog-food.html

Hiya, all I can say is wow what a lovely vet, listened to everything I had to say, didnt rush me. He thoroughly examined Rocky and basically wants to run loads of blood tests, skin swabs/scrapes and maybe scans. I told him about the probs with the insurance and he said it shouldnt be a problem as he thinks the skin issues are secondary to whatever else is going on. Hes put him on Metronidazole (Rocky has had this twice before and it seems to clear everything up temporarily) although he did say he would rather not put him on this before tests as it may mask certain things, however as we have to send a pre-authorisation form to the insurance company, which will take up to a week (they are crap at getting these back quickly!!) he agreed to start him on it now, cant stand seeing my poor pup in this state. He said there is a number of things it could be - pancreatic insufficiency being one of the, he also said inflammatory bowel disease and some others (cant remember the names). The one thing ive noticed it that rocky doesnt have constant 'cow pat' poos, his first poo of the day is always perfectly formed, firm and brown (he does this straight after his brekkie) and then the two further ones after dinner and tea are loose and quite yellow???? would this fit more with an inflamed bowel?

Just cant explain how relieved I am that ive found this vet, took me half an hour to get there but soooo worth it.

Thank you for all the links Caryll am gonna do some reading when ive got the kids to bed.

Oh, he's also advised me to get Seleen shampoo off the net as its way cheaper than Malaseb as his skin is mega dry and flaky with sore spots so ive ordered some.

Still trying to get my head around photobucket to upload pics of him but am struggling, ive set up my account and emailed pics from phone but now cant find them in photobucket account

amara wrote: He said there is a number of things it could be - pancreatic insufficiency being one of the, he also said inflammatory bowel disease and some others (cant remember the names). The one thing ive noticed it that rocky doesnt have constant 'cow pat' poos, his first poo of the day is always perfectly formed, firm and brown (he does this straight after his brekkie) and then the two further ones after dinner and tea are loose and quite yellow???? would this fit more with an inflamed bowel?

Yes, it could well do. IBD is a lot easier to live with, though. Once you get the food sorted (and you have to be careful with all food, even treats) it tends to even out.

amara wrote: Just cant explain how relieved I am that ive found this vet, took me half an hour to get there but soooo worth it.

Thank you for all the links Caryll am gonna do some reading when ive got the kids to bed.

Oh, he's also advised me to get Seleen shampoo off the net as its way cheaper than Malaseb as his skin is mega dry and flaky with sore spots so ive ordered some.

Still trying to get my head around photobucket to upload pics of him but am struggling, ive set up my account and emailed pics from phone but now cant find them in photobucket account

If you find a vet that you get on with & trust, hang on to him/her like a limpet! They all have the same training & most are technically good, but there are some that just seem to not only understand your pet, but understand you!

Do you have the photobucket app on your phone? If so, it'll load them onto a default library on photobucket. So when you next go on there, click albums & you should be able to find them.

Fingers crossed for some good news after the tests - please let us know how it goes!

Sorry to hear about your puppy, hope you get to the bottom of this soon.

Do let us know how Rocky is getting on - we all have our fingers and paws crossed for you and Rocky

Hope you get him sorted he is a cutie. I don't think anyone asked about his breeding yet? Have you talked to his breeder to ask if any siblings have any of the same issues?

Hi, weve had a much better day today, rocky has only had one small episode of loose poo, he's not scratching or biting (still spraying him with acv) and he's been bounding round the house and constantly trying to hump my leg........im guessing hes feeling a tad better. I didnt think the tabs could work so quick but ive read up on it and it says that when used for ibd they work as an anti inflammatory, its like he feels relief. Just waiting to hear from the vet re the pre-auth form and then hopefully in for tests.

Regarding his breeding, his breeder was a kc reg breeder, listed on their website but he was from a blue blue mating, i had no idea at the time that blues shouldnt be bred together. Why are the kennel club letting this happen if the pups can have problems, its not good. Possibly a lot of his problems esp skin probs are also due to this. I havent contacted the breeder yet, will do when i get the test results. I also think rocky could have been the runt as he was the last pup left, i didnt care, he was gorgeous and i wanted him and probably even if i knew then how ill he was going to be i would have still had him. He is special, i wouldnt change him for tge world, i believe i got him for a reason because many would have given up on him by now i also think him being ill has given us a special bond, he stares at me with such love, its like he knows im looking after him.......... and he always comes to me first not my other half hahaha love him.

I think Rocky has the best home he possibly have wished for! ><

IBD & EPI aren't colour hereditary, so the blue x blue mating wouldn't be responsible for that, but it can be hereditary in the normal course of things, so your breeder might want to be told. Blue x blue matings are inadvisable because of the increased possibility of Colour Dilution Alopecia. This manifests in poor coat condition, loss of hair (permanently) and ridged/wrinkled skin. It's the breed club that needs to take some action here, as the KC relies on the breed clubs to advise them of possible problems within individual breeds. It's been tackled in other breeds, but not the stafford yet.

Following this closely, I can't offer any more advice but am happy to help in any way I can.

I had a feeling it would be a blue blue cause of the skin issues, but as caryll said the other things are not colour related. You might want to call the breeder though to ask if anyone else have got to them about ill pups.

Are you thinking of breeding at all in the future? If so, i would advise against it.

As for the KC, a lot of their policies are out of date and need re-done.

Hi hayley, definately no intention of breeding him so no probs there, so many people buying blues and seeing them as money making machines. I didnt intentially set out to get a blue pup and if i was aware of all the skin probs which can occur from blue blue matings i would have probably gone for a different colour, i just looked on the kc website and it just so happened a lady fairly near to me had 1 pup left, which was rocky, fate i think!!

Really think the kc listing breeders who are breeding two blues should be looked into. Ive never owned a dog before and thought that by looking for a kc reg breeder that everything would be ok (regarding screening tests being carried out, family history etc) buf seems not. I would have ideally preferred to rescue but as ive never had a dog before and have 2 small children i was scared (i did rescue my cat though )).

An update on rocky; seems like a different pup, full of beans, has definately put weight on and his skin is looking a touch better after bathing him in the seleen shampoo, the scalyness isnt as bad. Cant believe the improvement. Vets on tues to see about bloods etc.

Hi all, apologies for not posting sooner.

After my last post rockys feet became EXTREMELY swollen and sore, back to the vets we went and he was put on antibiotics and steroids. This got slightly better over a week but he was still limping and holding his front paw off the ground. Took him back, he was given more antibiotics and steroids and the vet took blood tests (insurance have refused to pay for anything to do with this claim, due to my previous vets errors). Basically to cut a long story short he rapidly deteriorated over the last couple of days and by tuesday was very weak and not eating, tues afternoon he collapsed and vomited, he was admitted and has been at the vets on IV fluids for 2 days and nights Its really not looking good. He has dangerously high levels of salt and it appears his stomach isnt emptying properly. I went to see him twice yesterday, he is suffering so bad, ive cried so much my head hurts. Ideally he needs referring to a specialist but we are looking at £5000 ish and i just havent got that money. I pay insurance but they will not pay out (my earlier posts kind of explain why).

The vet is hoping his salt levels come down overnight as he needs to anaesthetise him to put a camera down but cant as anaesthetic could kill him at present. If they havent come down he is at risk of a major fit (they said if things got worse overnight they would call and i havent heard anything so i suppose that is a good sign). But basically today i could be in the position of deciding what is right for my beautiful boy as he is suffering so bad. So so sad and devastating, cannot stop the tears, i love him so much its heartbreaking.

But i tell you something my last vets havent heard the last of this as it is due to their catalogue of errors that my pup cant get the medical help he needs.

Hi Amara , sorry I have nothing to add by way of advice but hope all goes ok for you today , 8 paws crossed for you >< please keep us updated

I went through it for 6 years with my late staf, I never knew about the diet side of things back then and I ended up at the vets every month for steroids and antibiotics, even though these drugs helped I hope you don't end up going down that road.

That's awful news, I'm so sorry he's gone downhill like this.

Re:insurance. Have you explained to the insurance company that the original vet messed things up? Do you have any proof that this is the case?

Will your current vet accept monthly payments for the treatment? My own vet has a company attached to them that give loans for veterinary treatment repayable over 12 months.

I'm so sorry to hear things have gotten so bad and I really hope he makes an improvement

I really really hope ur baby boy gets well again very soon, everything crossed, huge hugs for you all.

Oh Amara, I'm so sorry to hear that Rocky is in hospital - I do hope so much for both of you that your vet gets to the bottom of this problem very quickly and sets Rocky on the road to recovery. I can't help in any way, I only wish I could - all I can do is send you "strength" vibes and Rocky "get well" vibes.
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just read the full post, what a time you have both been going thru!! so sorry to hear he has had to be admitted and thank you for thaking teh time to update us...............i couldnt advice on anything hear apart from fight your corner with the previous vets and insurance!

thinking of you both fingers and paws crossed!!

Well to my utter amazement rocky made it through the night. The vet said he was moving a little this morning and that he managed a little walk about which after seeing how bad he was last night is amazing. I went to see him and he recognised me and seemed so happy to see me, everytime i put my head in the crate to kiss him his little tail was wagging. He stayed laying down but did make an effort to move.

If he is strong enough tomorrow hes gonna have the camera into his stomach to see exactly what is going on. The vet thinks its pyloric stenosis and if it is will be able to operate.

He is my little fighter and i pray he makes it. Thank u for all ur kind words and positive vibes, they must be working )

Sorry forgot to mention the insurance, gonna scrape the money together, whatever it takes and then put claim in and the vet said he will do all he can to get it through. This is a new diagnosis and yes he had weight loss noted on one occasion when i didnt have full cover, id only had him 2 weeks and took him to the vets as he wasnt taking to the dry food. I saw the nurse for some advice but in his notes she just wrote "weightloss no d&v" but not the reason for the weightloss arrrrrgggghhhh. So when the new vet sent the pre auth off for his diarrhoea and mentioned weightloss , low and behold they have refused it!!!! We can challenge it tho as the main reason for referral was diarrhoea and she clearly stated no d&v. Fingers crossed

Seems like they'll do absolutely anything to get out of paying hope it gets sorted out for you though, and SO glad to hear Rocky's doing a bit better I really hope you get your diagnosis and he gets better. He really couldn't have asked to be with a better person.

How are things today Amara? We're all thinking of you and Rocky ><

Been thinking about you & Rocky a lot since last night - how is he today?

Just got back from visiting him, hes had his op and it went well his stomach was full of gruely like stuff and his pylorus was v narrow, the vet also mentioned something about his intestines but i cant quite remember what. He emptied his stomach and then put a cut in the bit which was narrowed. Hes taken some biopsies to confirm the diagnosis, hoping they dont show anything nasty.

He was on heavy painkillers and sedated a bit when i saw him, he was sleeping peacefully bless him. Just hope he doesnt have any set backs over the nxt few days. He may be able to come home on monday if theres no probs

Feel absolutely exhausted.......what a week!!

I will be in probably end up in hospital nxt wk due to the shock of seeing the bill