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Post by jaggededge Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:10

Hi we have had Tinker almost 3 weeks I think now. She had her health check at the vets on Friday and she was really pleased with her for her age although she said Tinker had a bit of bronchitis but they wouldn't treat it. However, when I take her for a walk (sometimes too long I think) she is often sick when she gets back. I think this is from the exertion and the amount of mucous on her chest at the time.

Yesterday she didn't get a walk for one reason or another and was sick several times. Once after she had some scrambled egg and then after her tea. I assumed it was because she had a bit too much to eat and had a mad few minutes in the garden causing her to bring it up again. But she was sick again at about 10pm. Her breathing was very laboured before this episode, she went out to be sick and then collapsed and went rigid for about 10 seconds. I was very upset and picked her up straight away. She came round very quickly and I put her back on her feet and she was ok. She then wouldn't lay down for a while but fell asleep sitting up. Wonder if this was to aid her breathing?

I am wondering whether she is being sick because of her chest or the amount of food? Did she fit because she couldn't get her breath? I have fed her a small meal this morning and she seems ok. Will take her for a little walk later when everything has digested and see how she goes.

I am just so confused. I know she is ten years old but I don't want to lose her. I was so upset last night. Can't believe how much she has stolen all our hearts.

Any advice much appreciated.

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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:15

What is she like in herself? Is she drinking ok?

Has she had a full medical check up? Heart, lungs etc?

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Post by jaggededge Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:19

She seem's ok in herself this morning. I will observe how much she is drinking and she certainly dosen't seem to be off her food. When the vet saw her on Friday she said her heart sounded fine and is a good weight but she does have a bit of bronchitis.
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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:26

My concern would be that dogs don't often get bronchitis. I also wonder why the vet wouldn't treat it. Add to that the collapse & I'd be worried the same as you.

Would it be difficult for you to get a 2nd opinion at another vet practice? I have to say that, given her age, a cough & a collapse, I would be thinking along the lines of slight heart problem.

If that's what it is, then it's easily helped by medication, but you obviously would like to know for certain.

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Post by jaggededge Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:31

The strange thing is she doesn't actually have a cough, just sounds a bit wheezy sometimes. I will definitely be having a chat with the vet again.
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Post by Kathy Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:33

I think I would be inclined to get a second opinion from a different vet straight away. Sickness and a collapse sounds like lack of oxygen. It is something that needs medical attention and treatment it is certainly not normal to see your dog do this.
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Post by Rachel33 Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:34

Oh, poor girl broken heart Did you adopt her from a kennels or a home environment? As I know that there are some particularly nasty strains of kennel cough going around at the moment, one of my boys couldn't shake it off for well over a month and was sick regularly, especially after exercise. He didn't have the usual signs (coughing, nasal discharge etc) but wheezed heavily when walking and was sick when he got back. He had investigative surgery and all came back as normal, a course of ronaxan cleared his up in the end.

Really doesn't sound right at all, and I don't mean to worry you more but it's something that I would be getting investigated asap. Would definitely be contacting the centre and asking for her vet records also, sounds like it's been an ongoing problem? Wishing you guys all the luck in the world! Let us know how you get on!
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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:35

If there's a build up of fluid in the lungs, there must be a reason. The most common reason is a heart problem. It would also explain the collapse.

I just wonder why your vet didn't want to treat the bronchitis?

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Post by jaggededge Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:44

Oh, poor girl Did you adopt her from a kennels or a home environment? As I know that there are some particularly nasty strains of kennel cough going around at the moment, one of my boys couldn't shake it off for well over a month and was sick regularly, especially after exercise. He didn't have the usual signs (coughing, nasal discharge etc) but wheezed heavily when walking and was sick when he got back. He had investigative surgery and all came back as normal, a course of ronaxan cleared his up in the end.

Really doesn't sound right at all, and I don't mean to worry you more but it's something that I would be getting investigated asap. Would definitely be contacting the centre and asking for her vet records also, sounds like it's been an ongoing problem? Wishing you guys all the luck in the world! Let us know how you get on!

She came from a local rescue centre. She is vaccinated up to date but I couldn't tell you if she has had the kennel cough vaccine. I know she had a cyst removed from her mammaries but was told this was nothing to worry about. I've also noted that her ears are really pale in the morning and it takes a good while for them to pink up. This would also indicate something to do with circulation wouldn't it?
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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:55

Yes, I'd say it does. I really do think you need a second opinon, even if it's just to put your mind at rest.

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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 12:59

Has the vet checked if somethings lodged somewhere in the throat? I'd get her back there and tell them your not happy. She seems too unwell to me Smile
Also, it could be heart problems. It can be treated, ask for an ECG. I hope things get better for you Smile
My aunties staffy had heart problems and would cough alot.

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Post by iamajc Sun Dec 02 2012, 17:48

Get a second opinion, a friends vet once told her she was over-reacting with her pregnant Staffie, They took her to another vet where shortly after leaving her she collapsed and lost the litter and her womb. Not all vets are good vets worried
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Post by Stokester Sun Dec 02 2012, 20:40

iamajc wrote:Get a second opinion, a friends vet once told her she was over-reacting with her pregnant Staffie, They took her to another vet where shortly after leaving her she collapsed and lost the litter and her womb. Not all vets are good vets worried
Not related to the topic im sorry,
but Andrew that picture of Storm is Stunning Smile
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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 20:41

Stokester wrote:
iamajc wrote:Get a second opinion, a friends vet once told her she was over-reacting with her pregnant Staffie, They took her to another vet where shortly after leaving her she collapsed and lost the litter and her womb. Not all vets are good vets worried
Not related to the topic im sorry,
but Andrew that picture of Storm is Stunning Smile

It is, isn't it? thumbs up

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Post by Guest Sun Dec 02 2012, 22:47

I think I would get a second opinion as well

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Post by iamajc Mon Dec 03 2012, 00:31

Stokester wrote:
iamajc wrote:Get a second opinion, a friends vet once told her she was over-reacting with her pregnant Staffie, They took her to another vet where shortly after leaving her she collapsed and lost the litter and her womb. Not all vets are good vets worried
Not related to the topic im sorry,
but Andrew that picture of Storm is Stunning Smile
I was just trying to recommend a second opinion really and used that as an example, she nearly lost her dog because the first vet hadn't diagnosed the problem, She only just got her to a second vet in time.
Thanks for your comment about Storm, he's a stunner if I do say so myself Big Grin
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 03 2012, 07:00

can only repeat others concerns and go gt a second opinion from a different vet , doesn't sound right to me

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Post by bobs Mon Dec 03 2012, 08:36

Shaz here. One of our previous dogs had a heart condition which the vet failed to pick up on. It was only when we changed vets after losing our other dog to cancer that the elder dogs condition was diagnosed.

It was treated with medication and we successfully got him to 17 before we had to say goodbye. On the occasions when he would fit I had prescribed rectal valium sick to adminitser. We kept a dose in all of the main rooms so we could get it done quickly.

Well, Bob had the front end whilst you get what end I got Surprised Laughing Laughing Laughing
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