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as a lot of people have seen my previous post i thought i would start another to see if any 1 else can hepl too

https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t26774-6-month-old-still-pooing-on-a-night-please-help?highlight=Pooing

as i was advised to let rocky out in the night my partner got up twice in the night to let Rocky out, and when i got upt for work at 5:30 he had still pooed in his crate.

i really dont no what to do as im really at the end of my teather with it now, i would never consider getting shut of him he is not just my pet he is part of my family.

any more help or people who have had the same issue please help..

I have read though your previous post and I don't have anywhere near the experience the other guys have.. I also don't know of Bakers as I don't think we have it here.. I believe the advice they gave as everyone here steers well clear of Bakers as it is rubbish. If there is a digestion problem hopefully a change in food will rectify it. Also the exercise issue needs to be sorted, they NEED way more daily exercise than what he is getting, a tired staff is much better behaved.. I understand the shift work problem but you need to find some way around getting him a lot more than he is getting. My girl was sick on the weekend and not allowed out for exercise and she too had some accidents, I'm guessing out of frustation

When your wife took him out last night did she keep him out until he did poo? Or did he not go? Also when you say pooed in his crate was there just 1 poo or several?

Here is a link that might help

http://staffy-bull-terrier.co.uk/housetraining.html

I can't offer any different advice than was already given. Changing food and a bit more exercise will be very helpfull. Also, if you do switch foods do it slowly over a week or so and gradually adding more of the new food or he will get an upset stomach.

there was just 1 poo but just in little balls ( sorry to sound to descriptive) lol.. i dont know weather he did something as i was asleep because i was up early for work and she was fast asleep when i got up.

usally when we let him out he goes streight to the grass and does his buiness.

thanks for your reply

I think you got some good advice on the other topic by Caryll, about getting him over going to the toilet while on the lead:

Caryll wrote:You really need to get him out of the not-when-I'm-on-the-lead-or-when-you're-looking mentality and that's going to take a while. What you'll need to do is take him for long, long walks first thing in the morning when he's busting to go! Don't let him in the garden, just straight out & walk him round & round outside until he literally can't hold it any more! Then, when he does anything (pees or poos) give him loads of silly, hyper praise, and maybe a really tasty treat.

Also, he does need more exercise. I know a dog whose owners hadn't taken him out in years, and when he finally was able to go out, he had the runs and just couldn't control himself because of all of the excess energy and whatever. Obviously a 20-minute walk a day isn't as bad as going years without getting walked, but maybe there's a link between the excess energy and the apparent inability to control himself. I take it he's fine during the day? Two 30 minute walks a day are fine for his age, I think. Even if you can get a friend or family member to help out while you're at work, he'd really benefit from that. You could let him run around in a field all day while you're at work, but it's not quite the same thing as walking him with someone, it's more structured.

Then again, I'm not sure why he'd be OK during the day but not night. Maybe you just need to get up and let him out once in the night, and then give him lots of praise. Besides that, I'm not really sure.

so if i try to squeeze more walking time and the change in food could help with my problem?

antoher concern is that he wont do anything on the lead i took him out last night for just short of an hour and in that time he had some free run time and still nothing.
is there any thing i can do to help him or let him know its ok to go on the lead?

I gave some advice in your other post. You obviously dismissed it, so I can't add anything more.

mattyp wrote:there was just 1 poo but just in little balls ( sorry to sound to descriptive) lol.. i dont know weather he did something as i was asleep because i was up early for work and she was fast asleep when i got up.

usally when we let him out he goes streight to the grass and does his buiness.

thanks for your reply

The only reason I asked this is because my girl was shy to go on the lead, but she would hold it in until she was outside alone, or in the middle of the night when she knew she wouldn't be caught. But if he usually goes when he is taken out, I agree that the 1st 2 steps to solving your problem is exactly what has been said already.. Change to a better quality food and as much exercise as you can possibly fit in, that should help.. Then back to basic housetraining.

mattyp wrote:so if i try to squeeze more walking time and the change in food could help with my problem?

antoher concern is that he wont do anything on the lead i took him out last night for just short of an hour and in that time he had some free run time and still nothing.
is there any thing i can do to help him or let him know its ok to go on the lead?

I don't know whether or not it will help, but it certainly won't do him any harm, it'll only benefit him. I just think that there might be a link between the food and the short exercise with him going to the toilet in his crate. Worth a try. Even if it doesn't help, it's still something you should do, it'll do him well in general.

And Caryll's already given you advice on how to let him know it's OK to go on the lead:

Caryll wrote:You really need to get him out of the not-when-I'm-on-the-lead-or-when-you're-looking mentality and that's going to take a while. What you'll need to do is take him for long, long walks first thing in the morning when he's busting to go! Don't let him in the garden, just straight out & walk him round & round outside until he literally can't hold it any more! Then, when he does anything (pees or poos) give him loads of silly, hyper praise, and maybe a really tasty treat.

My puppy had been on bakers by the breeder. He had the ocasional runs and terrible smelling wind all the time. We put him on Royal Canin and it's all stopped. Less poo too.

It could be that he has a problem with his digestive system/bowel, when did he last have a check up at the vets??

My Phebee was once like yours, pooing and piddling in her cage at night and like you i was pulling my hair out.
Always made sure she had gone to toilet before bed, limited her water intake in the evening the lot, but still she dirtied her cage each day She was about 7 or 8 months at the time.

So some tough love was called for. Her vet bed soaked up the piddle and left the sleeping surface dry so out that came and she just had a towel to sleep on, this soaked the piddle but remained wet. Her cage size also played a part in her dirtying her cage, as she would mess in the front part of the cage but sleep to the back. So the cage was down sized to one that had enough room for her to stand and turn around, but if she messed she was sleeping in it.
First night she messed as usual, but was sitting as close as she could get to the back of the smaller cage to get away from her mess in the morning when i let her out.
The next night the cage was dry. In the space of a week we had just one wet cage in the morning. She remained in the smaller cage for about 2 weeks or a bit less and then went back to her larger one, but still with a towel as bedding.
Yes its tough love as i call it, but it worked and its a method i will use again if ever needed. They say a dog wont dirty its sleeping area, but if their sleeping cage is big enough they will as their dirty one corner and sleep in the other.
This method maybe not everyones cup of tea, but it worked for me so i'm giving you my experience and the solution i used to right it.