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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:21

Hi i wonder if anyone can help me,
we got a staffy cross about 5 weeks ago he is 13 weeks old when we first got him he used to go toilet on his pads but all of a sudden he goes everywhere else no matter how many times we pick him up and put him on his pads he doesn't learn also he is constantly whining, if you ignore him he only gets louder and louder till the point he starts howling. i really don't know what to do please help

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Post by Keith Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:30

Has he got a clean bill of health?
How often is he taken to the toilet area?
What toys/distractions does he have to keep himself amused?

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:33

Hi there, welcome to the forum.

A few questions, if you don't mind?

* Has he had all his jabs. If so, when can he start to go out?
* Have you tried training him with anything other than pads? Do you have a garden?
* What does have to eat? What brand food, and how often?
* Does he seem to drink a lot?

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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:36

he has a clean bill of health he had kennal cough when we fist got him and got treated straight away he goes to his toilet area every half hour and he has kong toys, tugging toys, sqeeky toys , loads of balls and and puppy denture bones

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:38

What about his jabs - when is he allowed out?

Do you only use puppy pads, or do you have a garden?

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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:40

he has got all of his jabs he now gets taken out a fair bit durin the day and for an hours walk at night.
he has a courtyard to run round in whenever he wants and he is on bakers puppy biscuits and bakers wet puppy food

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Post by Keith Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:40

I'd be inclined to change the food for a start.
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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:42

what food would you suggest?

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Post by Keith Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:45

Depends on your budget, to be fair.
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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:46

hes also got science plan biscuits

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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:47

we got a fair budget for him but its one of the few he will actually eat as his previous owners gave him junk such as wagg

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:52

leonjabraham wrote:he has got all of his jabs he now gets taken out a fair bit durin the day and for an hours walk at night.
he has a courtyard to run round in whenever he wants and he is on bakers puppy biscuits and bakers wet puppy food

leonjabraham wrote:we got a fair budget for him but its one of the few he will actually eat as his previous owners gave him junk such as wagg

Bakers is probably the worse food you can buy, and Wagg isn't too far behind it. It really would be better to get him off that asap.

Don't let him just run around inthe courtyard whenever he wants while you're house training him. Physically take him out there every hour, plus after he's woken up/been playing/had food. If he goes to toilet outside give him loads of praise, if he goes inside ignore it (other than cleaning it up, of course!). The same if he toilets while he's out on a walk - loads of praise!

It'll take a short while, but he'll soon work out that going to toilet outside = praise & fuus, going inside means he gets nothing at all.

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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:58

when he does go outside to go loo he gets loads of praise and when he does it indoors he gets ignored but he doesn't seem to get it , we take him out after food, play time and when he wakes up but he will not go toilet he will wait till we get back indoors and go i dont think ive used my carpet cleaner so much and its got to the point where one of my neighbours knocked the other day to say that when i run to the shop all he done was howl

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Post by Keith Sat Nov 03 2012, 17:58

I'm going to suggest a food a lot haven't yet heard of - it's mid-range food with a fair nutritional profile at a reasonable cost - Latham's.

I foster lots of dogs and Latham's really agrees with all of them - no runny poo during transition, and low volume of excretion, so there isn't lots to clean up.

If their puppy food is as good as their adult food, I think it could be a good choice.

It's available in Tesco (well, most of them, at least) off the shelf.

http://lathamsdogfood.com/products.html#/puppy
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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:01

Working dog wrote:I'm going to suggest a food a lot haven't yet heard of - it's mid-range food with a fair nutritional profile at a reasonable cost - Latham's.

I foster lots of dogs and Latham's really agrees with all of them - no runny poo during transition, and low volume of excretion, so there isn't lots to clean up.

If their puppy food is as good as their adult food, I think it could be a good choice.

It's available in Tesco (well, most of them, at least) off the shelf.

http://lathamsdogfood.com/products.html#/puppy





thank you will have to try him on that and hope that he does eat it

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Post by Keith Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:02

For the howling - and this is the tough bit - it will take time.

Some of my fosters have crazy anxiety if I go out - one leapt a six foot internal gate and went mad around the house (including a fabulous poo on the bed).

To address this, I put them where they'll be staying when I'm out, then go out for a minute.

Then, later in the day, two minutes. Then five. Then 10. Etc.

Building up the "tolerance" as we go.

I do the same with dogs that have travel issues - gradual desensitizing.

Leaving a radio on for them, so it doesn't suddenly go quiet, is also quite successful for a lot of people, especially in tandem with a frozen treat in a Kong - made up and put in the freezer the night before you need it.
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Post by Keith Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:04

leonjabraham wrote:thank you will have to try him on that and hope that he does eat it

If he doesn't, pick it up, put it away, then bring it back out at next meal time.
Or add something with a strong flavour to it, like the "juice" from a can of tuna, or some very small bits of cheese - usually the smellier the better.
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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:12

Working dog wrote:
leonjabraham wrote:thank you will have to try him on that and hope that he does eat it

If he doesn't, pick it up, put it away, then bring it back out at next meal time.
Or add something with a strong flavour to it, like the "juice" from a can of tuna, or some very small bits of cheese - usually the smellier the better.


some of my friends have suggested the whining is due to the breed he is crossed with, but i doubt this is the case

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:20

what breed do they think he is crossed with , a woman Laughing

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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:22

he also has a horrible habbit of going pee on his bed and then sleeps in it

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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 18:28

Dave wrote:what breed do they think he is crossed with , a woman Laughing


Laughing no hes crossed with shar pei and as i said he was really good when we first got him would only go toilet on his pads and never whined at all apart from to get up on the sofa but i moved his blanket to near my feet and it stopped and then its like he just untaught himself everything overnight

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Post by astubliffhacked Sat Nov 03 2012, 22:03

another good dry food we are now using is autarky's puppy/junior fairly priced and goes nice with a can of sardines in sunflower twice a week Wink
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Post by leonjabraham Sat Nov 03 2012, 22:46

astubliffhacked wrote:another good dry food we are now using is autarky's puppy/junior fairly priced and goes nice with a can of sardines in sunflower twice a week Wink

where can i get this food from?

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