two dogs tied to drain pipe

I was at work the other day and when I was up a ladder I looked over this fence and saw two staffies tied together buy rope there were no food bowls or any shelter these dogs were skin and bone it made my feel sick it was freezing cold and wet I couldn't stop thinking about these dogs all day so I went round this street to get the house number and called the RSPCA and reported them still waiting to here the out come feel so sorry for these two dogs I just needed to help these dogs hopefully they are rescued and in a better place now going to call the rspca tomorrow to see the out come

Please remember that the rspca is a kill shelter and it has a reputation for ending staffies regularly. Please try another local rescue that doesn't euthonaise.

That's awful. What is wrong with people!!! It must be playing on your mind constantly.

I am still upset it's annoying the state of these dogs

Hopefully they are removed and found new homes xx

The RSPCA may not have been the correct place for first point of contact, have you tried your local dog warden, ?

Well at the time I thought I need to sort this out asap so the rspca was the first thing that come into mind!

Why do I think ive dun the wrong thing by calling the rspca!

Heres hoping xx

If you go on your local council website you should find details of how to contact the dog warden, you may have more luck with them

Hope you get some updates, priority is to get them out of there apart from breaking in yourself the future can not be certain either way. One chap in our park used to be the local dog warden he used to pay out of his own pocket for some of the dogs he collected to be put into private kennels and spent his free time trying to rehome them as the rescues that never put a healthy dog down were often full to the rafters

I would have done the same as you and rang the RSPCA. They are the first thing you think of. I would maybe try and follow through some of the advise given also. That's what great about this forum. You learn something new everyday. I didn't even know that the RSPCA do that do dogs. I feel very ashamed that I didn't know that

I hope they're ok   

To be honest the rspca are very busy building new Hq's at the cost of 17 million quid, making guilt adverts and filming there "good" works for tv. So I would expect that if you went for a look tomorrow then expect the dogs to still be there.
I don't have a problem with the guys and girls on the ground but the rspca big bosses are in cloud cuckoo land.

Maybe ring the local dog warden today as well, don't tell them you have already rung the RSPCA. They might not even have been round yet anyway. That way at least someone should have been to assess the dogs.

Theres always the blue cross too. I too didnt know that the rspca did this either. And as said, we learn lots from this wonderful forum.

This is so sad, I don't think I would have been able to have left them!
So local dog warden is always the first call to make in a situation like this? Again, didn't realise about the RSPCA! I know better now

Bane wrote:This is so sad, I don't think I would have been able to have left them!
So local dog warden is always the first call to make in a situation like this? Again, didn't realise about the RSPCA! I know better now

Yes

Having worked for the RSPCA for the last 4 years, it entirely depends which location you're in. I've worked in completely wonderful, and completely hopeless branches. But from a welfare point of view the RSPCA were the right people to contact IMO, if there is no shelter, food or water then they have to take them.

Sorry have to disagree with you on this one Rachel, in my experieince they have proven themselves to be useless. I cannot go into the reaason why here.

Knowing what I know now I would have just contact the local dog warden

where do the facts come from that RSPCA are a kill shelter? i was under the impression they only put to sleep dogs that have behaviour problems and cannot be rehomed? willow is a RSPCA rescue dog and i am thankful they rescued her and her brother and sister from a life of hell!

willowthewisp wrote:where do the facts come from that RSPCA are a kill shelter? i was under the impression they only put to sleep dogs that have behaviour problems and cannot be rehomed? willow is a RSPCA rescue dog and i am thankful they rescued her and her brother and sister from a life of hell!

1st result from search "Rspca put dogs down" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254729/RSPCA-destroys-HALF-animals-rescues--thousands-completely-healthy.html

Title of the article is "RSPCA destroys HALF of the animals that it rescues - yet thousands are completely healthy"

Although a certainly don't agree with some of what the RSPCA does, I would challenge anyone with an opinion to work in one if their shelters for a month and see the real problem. People over breeding is what causes all of these PTS cases. When I worked for the RSPCA we got the the point where all 110 kennels were full, we also had a mum and litter living in our grooming room, a dog in each changing room, one in our managers office and one in the reception plus the clinic next door housing strays in their tiny kennels. We had 5 dogs in the reception area waiting to come in as strays and no other rescue centres would help us as 85% of our dogs were bull breeds with behavioural problems, some high levels of aggression. What would you propose we did at that point?

We were also running a foster scheme, utilising all resources for advertising. I'll tell you what we actually did do at that point, we took cats home and put small dogs in their outdoor pens. Eventually we had an inspection from health and safety and had to choose 15 dogs with the most severe problems to put to sleep in order to fill their kennels. None of these dogs were surrendered by owners, they were all stray or cruelty case dogs. The problem is out of hand due to over breeding, the ease of buying (online, free to good home, and the ease of giving up a dog) so many people are reluctant to rescue a bull breed and then complain when so many are put to sleep.

i completelly agree with rachel33 maybe its the idiots that throw away these dogs like rubbish that should be put to sleep! i started a process with rspca to foster dogs that were from homes that had domestic violence issues going on but then took chester (abandond) puppy so was unable to help out! there was apost on here a while back about woodgreen animal shelter refusing to take on anymore staffies as they were over run with the breed and it was putting people off going to the shelter! i personally would only ever adopt a rescue dog who knows the answer to this huge problem but i think people should also be careful how they word things on on animal shelters as no organisation is perfect and ones like the RSPCA also do lots of good work to! i wouldnt have willow if they didnt!!

Was that the pet retreat scheme? Worked really well for us, got lots of dogs out of trouble! Thats the thing, the RSPCA get so much flack but they don't get to choose which dogs come in as strays or cruelty cases. Most private rehoming charities will pick and choose the cutesy ones and turn down the bull breeds which then results in owners claiming they found the dogs as strays and sending them in for them to pick up the pieces. People didn't visit the dogs home because it was "staffy central" either, but we didn't get to pick the pretty ones! We worked with what we had and did the best we could.

it was "case dog fostering" but i was told it would be more for dogs where owners had split up for many differenr reasons and either had housing issues criminal problems etc so the dog would of come to me until issues sorted but as i said we then adopted chester and he was a handful from the off and he is really not dog friendly so i decided that by adopting 2 staffies id done a little to help. i found the rspca really good they came and did a home check to see if we were suitable then revisited a couple of months later to make sure all was going well and these were all volunteers taking their own free time out to do this! all i know is that rspca southridge animal centre had willows best interest at heart , the kennels were clean but old and worn out ! i dont agree with euthanasia of healthy animals but dont know the answers to the ever growing stray dogs situation all i know is that 2 children and 2 staffies is as much as i can cope with at the moment!!

I support Blue Cross, Dogs Trust, Battersea, Guide Dogs as well as a couple of other animal charities. I also buy everything on line through Give as you Live which receives donations which go to Staffordshire Bull Terrier Rescue. I would support RSPCA as well but I just cannot afford anything else a month. It is desperately sad when healthy animals have to be put down but I am sure it is not a decision taken lightly by any animal organisation. It is just the sad fact that it is far too easy to become a pet owner and there are too many people trying to make a 'quick buck'. It is a life changing commitment and it is not cheap and many animals, once the novelty has worn off, are disgarded without a second thought which then leaves others to pick up the pieces. The fact is we wouldn't need these Charities if we were that 'animal loving Britain' that we pertain to be.

Um... but what happened to these poor dogs you found, MarkRobo? I think it is great that you swung into action right away.

i completely agree that any of us that support these charities try and do their bit i support the rspca money wise and send coats leads etc etc ( i must say to southrigde rspca) as close to my heart but anyone of us that that has a consciousion towards the welfare of animals should remember that these are charity based and rely on the likes of us! i support 2 other human charities aswell but money is tight and u do what u can afford ! i too would like to know any update on the 2 dogs involved?

Just to let you know that the two dogs were taken away by RSPCA inspectors and are being looked after at a local dog shelter thank dog these dogs were rescued I can put my mind at rest

Good news they will have food and a warm bed, well done for reporting them  

It must be so nice to feel warm and have a full belly. I do hope they find a home who will treat them with the love they deserve.

Thanks for the update, I hope they find a suitable home very soon

I didnt read all that link,(got too upset) but I always thought for some reason when pts, they used what the vets do, not that bolt gun, surely they must die a slow death if shot in the wrong place?

dont know anything about last post (pts) but thanks for update on dogs and knowing u did the right thing must be a relief and i hope they find homes that give them the love and security they deserve poor babies! you can feel proud you did something to help !!  

The RSPCA is better than nothing, at least the dogs are out of there.

In my years working for the RSPCA I never used a bolt gun or saw one used. We would sedate in the kennel if the dog was too dangerous to handle, but otherwise it was done by the vets in a quiet place with a needle. We almost had to use a tranquilliser gun once, on an ex bait dog who had been continuously drugged and wasn't being effected by the sedation I gave, but I managed to restrain and muzzle him after a while.

My boy is from the Bristol RSPCA, I found them very helpful, knowledgable and friendly, I know they have had one healthy dog there that had a stay of over 2 years before being rehomed so I don't think they put down dogs with good health and without major behavioural problems unless they have absolutely no choice due to no room. We will be bringing them a donation in the form of toys and food soon. If/when we get a second dog they will more than likely come from the RSPCA as we would like another staffy or staff cross and the non RSPCA shelters near by (dogs trust, all creatures great and small, even RSPCA Newport) don't seem to have them very often, where as RSPCA and a few small private shelters across the bridge do. Im very glad to hear that the RSPCA have come and rescued these 2 neglected staffys.

Let's remember that the statistic about putting lots of dogs down was published by the Daily Mail.

And imagine if there was no RSPCA. They do a lot of good things, and in many cases, they are the only ones to do so.

Daily Mail loves cuddly animal stories but hates RSPCA or any organisation they see to be even remotely liberal or "soft-touch". I am personally very grateful to the RSPCA for the work they do, they also raise awareness with their campaigns, even thought they cost a lot: some of those campaigns have been very effective. And bringing prosecutions may seem like a waste of money, but they are milestones and they bring debate around issues - badger culls, Staffy snobbery, species being extinct, exotic animals being imported illegally, horrible conditions for farm animals - that nobody would otherwise think twice about.

I do admire the new chief of the Vetinary Association but until he came along they haven't said very much about treatment of animals or the conditions we sometimes allow them to live in in this country.

Right - that's my speech ended!