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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 09:20

Hass any one got a diet sheet on what they feed there staffy
And do you need to buy any vits/supplements to add to the diet
He will be 17 weeks on tuesday
So want to get him started asap
He as royal canin at the moment 3 times a day with fish are cooked chicken.
And i give him a raw treat every other day like tripe,mince
But i have not tried him on raw chicken thigh with bones yet

Would i still feed him 3 time a day

Thanks for reading and any advise would be great

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Post by Steve Sat Jan 18 2014, 09:23

when you say cooked chicken with bones?

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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 09:24

No i dont give cooked bones.
Sorry i should of stated that.
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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 09:39

Ok cheers steve ill print them of. And have a read
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Post by _Jason_ Sat Jan 18 2014, 15:45

Has the links steve sent you helped you out? Or do you need to know anything else?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 18 2014, 15:51

There are quiet a few of us on here that feed raw, so anything at all you'd like to know, ask away Smile

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 18 2014, 15:58

Ask away Smile

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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 16:04

Well i bin to butcher today and got some green tripe and chicken mince with bits of bone in it.
And am getting some ofal on monday. Cause he only does ofal to order

I need to no if i need to add any vits are supplements
Thats the bit that is confusing me
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 18 2014, 16:05

It will really depend on how good a variety you can feed?

Over here we don't get the same variety as the UK so I do add things like apple cider vinegar/honey/coconut oil/olive oil etc for joints and coats but I know some raw feeders give such a good variety that supplements aren't necessary.

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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 16:19

Right ok i suppose i could add fish oil. Are give him a peice of fish. That not a problem.
What is the cider vinegar honey and coconut oil for
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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 16:47

Right ok have ill look through it now
Thanks
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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 16:59

Would i need to get calcium as a supplent are would the get enough from the raw diet.
So for instace would i need to feed chicken with bone more times a week than red meat.
I no pups need calcium to grow proper.
And how would you no if your dog was getting enough.
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Post by Kathy Sat Jan 18 2014, 17:54

The only thing I know about feeding raw is not too cook the tripe, have fun  Smile 
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Post by _Jason_ Sat Jan 18 2014, 17:57

It sounds like your jumping the gun abit,its best you do something like

week 1 chicken only
week 2 add tripe
week 3 add turkey
week 4 add lamb
week 5 add fish
week 6 add pork
week 7 add beef
week 8 add offal
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Post by _Jason_ Sat Jan 18 2014, 18:00

In a healthy dog you dont need to add any kind of supplement for Calcium,he will get that all naturally from raw diet
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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 19:09

Right that plan sounds better and simple
So by week 8 i can mix it up so i get the right ratio and varity
Cheers for the info.

Just one more question
So when i feed chicken does it need to be breast are can it be chicken mince with ground up bone
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Post by _Jason_ Sat Jan 18 2014, 19:29

Yes by week 8 you mix it up.

Chicken mince is good to use,you may find it could be alittle to much bone in it,just check doggies poo for chalky type look, you can cut back on the mince and add in boneless chicken to even it up
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Post by Khye1984 Sat Jan 18 2014, 20:21

Nice one thats really good info
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 18 2014, 23:15

another great guide to read through

www.preymodelraw.com

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Post by Khye1984 Sun Jan 19 2014, 09:33

So i fed bruce chicken mince last night and this morning. And it went down his throat like it was water. It felt like i never give any food. Lol
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 19 2014, 10:31

Good to hear it went well!

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Post by _Jason_ Sun Jan 19 2014, 10:44

Khye1984 wrote:So i fed bruce chicken mince last night and this morning. And it went down his throat like it was water. It felt like i never give any food. Lol

Yeah  Laughing i know that feeling,most dogs will adore raw food and will love you even more for giving it to them
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Post by Khye1984 Sun Jan 19 2014, 13:23

Right he did is first doggy poo today since being on raw
It was solid at first then the last bit was soft.
So ill see how it goes on through the week.
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Post by _Jason_ Mon Jan 20 2014, 10:01

What was in the bowl
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Post by Khye1984 Mon Jan 20 2014, 18:44

Have just bin giving him chicken mince
He has done another now but that was solid
So all going well.
Am i right in thinking you give 10% body weight
To start with
Bruce weighs 10.5 kg
So i would need to feed him 1 kg of food.
It just seems alot.
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Post by Sazzle Mon Jan 20 2014, 19:23

That does seem a lot, I know the guidelines do say that when starting
a pup but maybe you could try a bit less first?
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Post by Khye1984 Mon Jan 20 2014, 19:50

Yeh i think ill go with 6-8% for a couple of days then slowy move down dependin on how he looks
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Post by Sazzle Mon Jan 20 2014, 19:52

I think that sounds sensible, I've never measured food (dry or raw)  Blushing 
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Post by Bane Mon Jan 20 2014, 22:36

I always got confused by that...Bane is still a pup and if we fed 10% he'd be having 1.5kg a day o.o We're going to start him on about 600g a day and see how he goes. I'm sure it won't take long for you to get it right Smile
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Post by Khye1984 Wed Jan 22 2014, 07:10

So i give bruce his first chicken hnd last night. He loved it.
I was a bit nervous at first all that crunching.
Took him out this morning. And his stool was really big.
Almost a caramel colour
Any ideas.
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Post by Sazzle Wed Jan 22 2014, 08:39

That's OK, it should darken in color as they get used to it  Smile
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Post by Khye1984 Wed Jan 22 2014, 08:48

That good to no.
Have been thinking about it all morning ha
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Post by Khye1984 Thu Jan 23 2014, 08:38

So i wake up this morning to feed bruce.
Put is food out. And he wouldnt even touch it.
His he being fussy. Are is this normal when making the switch to raw.
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Post by Sazzle Thu Jan 23 2014, 13:31

Is it same as what he's had the last few days? Maybe he's feeling poorly?
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Post by Khye1984 Thu Jan 23 2014, 15:08

Yeh he is still having chicken mince.
He could be bored of it.
Have been giving it him since saturday.
He cant of been that poorley. He was running round house at 630 this morning chasing my slippers lol.
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Post by silver Thu Jan 23 2014, 15:43

I feed my puppy Natural Instinct raw food. She loves it and it's a convenient way to feed raw  Smile 
My Yorkie also had it and is incredibly fit
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 23 2014, 17:49

yellow or caramel coloured poos is normal when they eat a lot of chicken, like when first swapping on to raw.

Some dogs are harder to swap on to raw then others, if he turns his nose up leave the food down for 15 minutes anything not eaten take up and give NOTHING until his next meal where you offer the same food - tough love!

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Post by Khye1984 Thu Jan 23 2014, 18:23

Yeh he has just had his food now.
First meal of the day.
He is still full of life.
I just think that if he misses a meal he must be sick.
Thanks any way.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 23 2014, 18:30

no missed meals aren't always an indication of being ill, just being fussy!

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Post by Khye1984 Thu Jan 23 2014, 19:45

Have been using natures menu chicken mince
And getting chicken mince from butchers to.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 23 2014, 20:23

he'll get used to it, have you tried giving pieces of meat or wings/legs/carcasses something for him to chew on and switch it up

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Post by Sazzle Thu Jan 23 2014, 20:28

I started just on mince which got me and Daisy used to it but I feed a lot more on the bone now  Smile 
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Post by Khye1984 Thu Jan 23 2014, 21:56

Have give him chicken legs and thighs
I just get abit paranoid that he might choke.
But the more u give it the more confident i will get.
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Post by Sazzle Thu Jan 23 2014, 21:59

Exactly  Big Grin 
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Post by Khye1984 Fri Jan 24 2014, 09:06

Right so i come to feed bruce this morning. And he had a mouth full of food then walked a way. But then i read puppys can go of there food when teething. So i looked in is mouth. And loads of is teeth are coming out. Some are bent. They look sore.
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 24 2014, 11:30

Aw bless him. Perhaps softer food for a bit? (mince etc?) I must be honest when my two were teething I was still feeding kibble and hadn't changed to raw yet.

To ease their pain you can give them ice blocks, icey treats (or their raw frozen?) A wet, frozen cloth is also great for them to chew on to ease the teething.

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Post by Khye1984 Fri Jan 24 2014, 11:58

Thats wat have been giving him. He he as not improved by morning. Ill just take him vets.
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Post by Bane Fri Jan 24 2014, 20:30

We had to start soaking Bane's kibble so that he would eat it...maybe try something softer for him.
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