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THe mrs has this morning on and they just put some pics up of banned breads. Guess what? They used a picture of a staffy for the abpt. God im so mad right now grr they go preaching and dont even know the breeds grrrrr
THe mrs has this morning on and they just put some pics up of banned breads. Guess what? They used a picture of a staffy for the abpt. God im so mad right now grr they go preaching and dont even know the breeds grrrrr
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I didn't see this but what a bunch of idiots makes me really cross
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Apbt dogo filo and the tosa
ALl the breed pics were correct excep the apbt picture showed a staffy
ALl the breed pics were correct excep the apbt picture showed a staffy
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Yeah I noticed this as well and tweeted in to tell them. What idiots! If your gonna have a debate on dangerous dogs etc at least get your facts right. Was interesting and sad to see that no one came prepared with statistics on dog attacks broken down by breed. Otis nearly got attacked at park yesterday by a really aggressive off lead border collie and Otis is tiny so dog could have done a lot of damage if I wasn't there to intervene but no one ever mentions collies, jack Russells, yorkies etc.
in fact some of the nippier dogs I have come across on walls have been dogs affected by small dog syndrome.
This issue makes me mad! As for dog licences etc what's your views guys? £20 a year they mentioned on this morning?
in fact some of the nippier dogs I have come across on walls have been dogs affected by small dog syndrome.
This issue makes me mad! As for dog licences etc what's your views guys? £20 a year they mentioned on this morning?
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I am reading the stories in the papers etc but when it comes to TV/Radio I can't listen or watch because it's always lowest common denominator demonisation. Just to appeal to people emotions.
The only thing I've read with any validity in my opinion is the Telegraph's blog and the Statement from the Kennel Club posted on the forum last night.
The only thing I've read with any validity in my opinion is the Telegraph's blog and the Statement from the Kennel Club posted on the forum last night.
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I hope they apologise !!
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I just read on their site about it. I wish I hadn't, these things can really make ya nervous...
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I daren't read it
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I just complained about them using a Staff picture rather than a pitbull picture on their hub page and fb page (you can see my comment Debbie Pinner) I also have some friends who've complained. Its about time the media started being responsible they have a wide audience and its bad enough without the press causing confusion between the difference in a pitbull and a staffie. Im so angry about it. Although on the plus side it was quite a positive debate and the expert was very good. The focus was kept on making owners responsible rather than blaming the dog.
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Ive also complained we need as many people as we can to put in a complaint. Its absolutely disgusting this is why people are always confusing staff's for apbts because of the media
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Disgraceful. I've just sent a complaint in, requesting they show a pic of an actual APBT before the end of the show or on the next episode at the latest. And that they apologise. If not, I'll be taking it further.
If you all want to complain too, follow the info in this link: http://complainer.co.uk/how-to-complain-about-itv/
I think if we all do something to defend our breed, we might get somewhere.
If you all want to complain too, follow the info in this link: http://complainer.co.uk/how-to-complain-about-itv/
I think if we all do something to defend our breed, we might get somewhere.
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The dogs haven't even been confirmed to be Staffies yet
Why can't people see that it's nothing to do with a certain breed Its about the people who own them or the circumstances ! As a kid my friend was bitten by a golden retriever.
My daughter was attacked by a bull mastiff that has left her with significant facial injuries and disfigurement. I don't hate bull mastiffs , it could have easily been any dog . This paticular dog had been brought up very well but was on medication and was very old . We think it smelt something on our daughters face food wise and just flipped ... A total one off . It could have Been a lab or a toy breed.... The difference being that because the dog was so big it did a lot more damage . I agree that if you have a dog that has a lot if power then you need to train it well and watch it around children at all times.
The problem is ... Our lovely staffies and other powerful breeds attract more idiots looking for a dog that makes them look tough , whereas the labs and such like tend to attract a more sensible type of owner .
The lady in the bank spoke to me yesterday saying " you must be so angry about tgis girl being killed by those nasty breeds "
I told her that it's the deed not the breed. Of course it brings back memories and I know we are so lucky to have our daughter alive , but if we can seethat it's not a certain breed problem then why can't others:(
Why can't people see that it's nothing to do with a certain breed Its about the people who own them or the circumstances ! As a kid my friend was bitten by a golden retriever.
My daughter was attacked by a bull mastiff that has left her with significant facial injuries and disfigurement. I don't hate bull mastiffs , it could have easily been any dog . This paticular dog had been brought up very well but was on medication and was very old . We think it smelt something on our daughters face food wise and just flipped ... A total one off . It could have Been a lab or a toy breed.... The difference being that because the dog was so big it did a lot more damage . I agree that if you have a dog that has a lot if power then you need to train it well and watch it around children at all times.
The problem is ... Our lovely staffies and other powerful breeds attract more idiots looking for a dog that makes them look tough , whereas the labs and such like tend to attract a more sensible type of owner .
The lady in the bank spoke to me yesterday saying " you must be so angry about tgis girl being killed by those nasty breeds "
I told her that it's the deed not the breed. Of course it brings back memories and I know we are so lucky to have our daughter alive , but if we can seethat it's not a certain breed problem then why can't others:(
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08000304044 - Direct number for This morning. I just called and spoke to them and told them what they'd done and asked that they rectify it. Feel free to do the same
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Sorry to go on ... I am going to complain now .
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Result! They just clarified their mistake No picture shown, but still. They apologised, which is a start.
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Chris SW wrote:Result! They just clarified their mistake No picture shown, but still. They apologised, which is a start.
That is amazing Chris! Well done everyone who got involved.
I would have except I'm the office
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Complain Here with Ofcom https://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/tell-us/specific-programme-epg
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I'm glad they fixed it, shame it had to happen in the first place.
Seems a lot of people had called in saying that the breeds aren't at fault but the owners are, too, always good to hear that there are some sensible people left on the planet
Seems a lot of people had called in saying that the breeds aren't at fault but the owners are, too, always good to hear that there are some sensible people left on the planet
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Complaint to ofcom are a real pain for ITV and they face fines. If enough complaints are recieved it could even make the papers.
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I turned it on just in time to see the apology ...they seemed very sincere ! Thank goodness for that ... People power
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I would LOVE to know statistics on actual staffys that have attacked rather than unreg crossbreeds.
Before anyone gets thier backs up, i'm not saying that unreg or crossbred staffies are more aggressive or more likely to attack, but if the staffordshire bull terrier is going to be demonised then i would like to know how many of them are actually purebred staffs.
Before anyone gets thier backs up, i'm not saying that unreg or crossbred staffies are more aggressive or more likely to attack, but if the staffordshire bull terrier is going to be demonised then i would like to know how many of them are actually purebred staffs.
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I went out to walk the dogs and missed the apology grr gonna have to find it on catchup im glad they rectified their mistake.
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The media should remember they are in a position of great power and with that comes great responsibility, they really should get all their facts correct before blurting out nonsense.
Pleased to read their mistake has now been apologized for.
Pleased to read their mistake has now been apologized for.
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I complained on the link above aswell! well done all of you that did!
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Glad they recognised their mistake, but still goes to show how people don't even know what they're talking about.
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I'm watching it on iPlayer at the moment. I have to say, I sort of agree overall.
The woman yes, is very bitter because of her loss but tbh I find that understandable, she feels robbed. And her family have been through a lot. She has an extreme view on it that won't ever achieve anything, but I can't see much wrong with what she said.
The man, Ian McParland?, is absolutely fantastic and speaking nothing but absolute sense.
The woman yes, is very bitter because of her loss but tbh I find that understandable, she feels robbed. And her family have been through a lot. She has an extreme view on it that won't ever achieve anything, but I can't see much wrong with what she said.
The man, Ian McParland?, is absolutely fantastic and speaking nothing but absolute sense.
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So pleased they corrected this! I didn't see this item on this morning but if I had it probably would have made my blood boil. Why is it when anyone mentions an aggressive dog they think of staffords - I know I was guilty of this before knowing the breed... I tell you why - Media
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Just watching it on ITV player now, for anyone else who wants to see it link is;
https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/this-morning/28-03-2013
I will post time of announcement apology when I find it
https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/this-morning/28-03-2013
I will post time of announcement apology when I find it
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I'm watching it at the moment. The dog expert was excellent and spoke the truth. I felt sorry for the mother whose child was killed, I don't think anyone will change her opinion. I was horrified at her getting hate mail etc, that's just wrong.
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Chiara wrote:I'm watching it at the moment. The dog expert was excellent and spoke the truth. I felt sorry for the mother whose child was killed, I don't think anyone will change her opinion. I was horrified at her getting hate mail etc, that's just wrong.
Totally agree with you. Although what the woman said is wrong and extreme at times, it's hard for anyone to tell her she's wrong because she lost her daughter and obviously feels robbed. She is not as prejudice as a lot of people I've seen too.
The expert was definitely, an expert. He was great IMO.
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otisthestafford wrote:So pleased they corrected this! I didn't see this item on this morning but if I had it probably would have made my blood boil. Why is it when anyone mentions an aggressive dog they think of staffords - I know I was guilty of this before knowing the breed... I tell you why - Media
precisely
the media is the reason why. situations exactly like this one where people who are broadcasting to millions of people spout out incorrect information and influence peoples opinions.
and people like that waste of sperm, jeremy vine, who have formed their opinions based on media hype and think that theyre right about everything and feel that its their right to force their opinion on others.
ive always felt that fines should be handed out if broadcasters use wrong information and force their own beleifs on people.
theyre in a position where they can literally influence a nation. they should take proper responsibility for that.
supply the correct information to the masses and let them make their own minds up
or if theres a debate. both sides should have a fair chance to get their point across and the presenters of the show should be unbiased.
never gonna happen though :/
saw this pic today which is really relevant
(i know it says pitbull but i'd say "bull breeds" would be more accurate)
staffs will continue to be a scapegoats until another breed comes along that people can blame for everything unfortunately.
the thing with humans is that they'll always try to blame something else before they take the blame themselves
animals cant defend themselves so theyre an easy target.
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