Your opinion on breeding staffys?

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:37

I know some of you hate the fact that some people breed their staffys way to much, and so do I, breeding the same game all over again isn't right and fair on her, but my question is what do you think about breeding your girl once.
I mean I'd love to breed my boy with another staffy at least once before he gets his balls chopped, I don't want him to die a virgin Laughing

My dad in the other hand is against breeding in total, he has had 2 gorgeous bitches (a boxer and a pitbull, he lives in another country) but he never breed the boxer, now she's dead so she died a virgin and the pitbull is going the same way she's about 5-6 and he does not plan on breeding her, which is a shame I think, she's so beautiful.

So what's your thoughts about breeding your dogs at least once, so they don't die virgin, or do you rather not breed your dogs at all?

by **pongy** Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:45

I am against humanizing dogs, a friend got his bitch pregnant because he wanted her to "experience" the joy of motherhood, total tosh, for him it was money and tried to tell me it was for his bitches sake. He made my blood boil adding to the excess of pups in rehoming centers. Just my view and opinion

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:52

im in agreement its a load of tosh breeding just for the sake of doing it once there are enough dogs on puppy sites and in shelters to give you the answer to the question .
just to be clear no i dont think you need to let them do it once before castration/spaying .
best left to the responsible breeders that know what there doing Smile

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:54

Agree with Dave. Dogs really aren't going to be fussed that they don't get to get their jollies off with a bitch before they die. Tongues

Backyard breeding is a big problem, particularly with Staffords. Even if good homes were found for the pups, there would still be the issue of there being too many Staffords in rescue centres. If somebody really wants a Stafford, they should either go to a proper breeder or one of those rescue centres, as far as I'm concerned. Breeding for the fun of it isn't going to help the breed at all. It just adds to the numbers.

There's also the problem of caring for the pups before they go to homes. Even before the parents are mated, they should be health tested thoroughly. The pups should also be tested after they are born. It's expensive and many people don't bother with it, which is part of the problem. The owner of the bitch would also need to be prepared to take back any pups if for some reason the new owner cannot look after it anymore.

Just my thoughts on it. Smile

by **Steve** Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:56

if you do my follow list i dont have a problem

1) have around 8-10 people who want a pupo from you all good home
2) you dont crossbreed!
3) you dont inbred or keep it ion the family
4) both dog health tested for everything
5) BIG no to blue to blue mating also white and white matings

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:57

For me it wouldn't be about the money because, I've got a boy so I wouldn't be the one with the pups to sell.
But yes most people breed their dogs for money, but if they're really all about money they'd breed more than once to make as much money as possible. Just wouldn't like my boy to die a virgin, although I can't do it because my boy is not dog friendly so instead of making puppies he'd end up biting the other dog, so it would be impossible. Laughing

Just wondering what you guys think about breeding? I mean in my opinion if everyone was against breeding dogs, we'd come to a point where there would be no dogs since no one was breeding and the dogs would end up dying, and there would be no puppies therefor no dogs in the end, but that's never going to happen because there is loads of breeders who just breed for money but in a way they give us our babies that we love so much.

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:58

Steve wrote:if you do my follow list i dont have a problem

1) have around 8-10 people who want a pupo from you all good home
2) you dont crossbreed!
3) you dont inbred or keep it ion the family
4) both dog health tested for everything
5) BIG no to blue to blue mating also white and white matings

I don't understand why you can't breed like white and white or blue and blue? Not that I'd do it because I've seen a lot of people saying it but never understood why people say it? Would it cause any problems to the puppies?

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 13:59

Plus really with the problems you have had with dragon humping your labby i dont think it would be a good idea breeding him as i think you should be discoraging him trying to hump every dog in sight not encourage it > Smile

by **pongy** Sat Jan 26 2013, 14:00

Warren wrote: .
best left to the responsible breeders that know what there doing

Say's it all really

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 14:02

Warren wrote:Plus really with the problems you have had with dragon humping your labby i dont think it would be a good idea breeding him as i think you should be discoraging him trying to hump every dog in sight not encourage it >

yes yes I know, I'm not going to breed him because it would be impossible, he'd end up biting the bitch instead of, you know. Laughing

by Eris Sat Jan 26 2013, 14:07

Dogs should only be bred if there is enough demand for them. What I'd love is for all dog owners to need a licence, and on top of that breeders would have a commercial licence. All dogs should be bred with two things in mind: temperament and health. That's it. Looks and money shouldn't even come into it.

I've got to admit that I made an error with Roger, as he is from a blue x blue mating, but it's not something I'll be doing again, mostly as usually I'm a rescuer. That should be most peoples first port of call when looking for a dog, as although there won't always be something suitable, more often than not there seems to be.

by **pongy** Sat Jan 26 2013, 14:11

I have only been a member here for nearly 4 months and i have seen the very same debate 3 times at least

by **Steve** Sat Jan 26 2013, 14:12

DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Steve wrote:if you do my follow list i dont have a problem

1) have around 8-10 people who want a pupo from you all good home
2) you dont crossbreed!
3) you dont inbred or keep it ion the family
4) both dog health tested for everything
5) BIG no to blue to blue mating also white and white matings

I don't understand why you can't breed like white and white or blue and blue? Not that I'd do it because I've seen a lot of people saying it but never understood why people say it? Would it cause any problems to the puppies?

breeding these colour together increase health risk that you cant cure.

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 14:14

Steve wrote:
DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Steve wrote:if you do my follow list i dont have a problem

1) have around 8-10 people who want a pupo from you all good home
2) you dont crossbreed!
3) you dont inbred or keep it ion the family
4) both dog health tested for everything
5) BIG no to blue to blue mating also white and white matings

I don't understand why you can't breed like white and white or blue and blue? Not that I'd do it because I've seen a lot of people saying it but never understood why people say it? Would it cause any problems to the puppies?

breeding these colour together increase health risk that you cant cure.

Oh I see... thanks for explaining, well if I ever buy a puppy I'll be sure to check that the mother and dad are not both blue. Smile

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 15:01

Unless u are part of a breeding programme and breeding only to better the breed then you are a byb and potentially only adding to the crisis of staffys in rescue. As said before leave breeding to reputable breeders who have a plan and no what they are trying to achieve in a long term breeding plan with fantastic examples of the breed. I'm pretty sure your dog (although never seen a pic) won't be a good enough example to breed with, most are not!

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 15:43

I think that unless you are breeding to 'better the breed' then you shouldn't do it, full stop.

Steve wrote:if you do my follow list i dont have a problem

1) have around 8-10 people who want a pup from you all good home
2) you dont crossbreed!
3) you dont inbred or keep it ion the family
4) both dog health tested for everything
5) BIG no to blue to blue mating also white and white matings

I would add to that, that both dog & bitch should be KC registered and of exceptional breed standard quality.

DragonTheStaffie wrote:I don't understand why you can't breed like white and white or blue and blue? Not that I'd do it because I've seen a lot of people saying it but never understood why people say it? Would it cause any problems to the puppies?

Blue x Blue gives an increased risk of Colour Dilution Alopecia and White x White gives an increased risk of skin problems/allergies & deafness.

blaze wrote:Unless u are part of a breeding programme and breeding only to better the breed then you are a byb and potentially only adding to the crisis of staffys in rescue. As said before leave breeding to reputable breeders who have a plan and no what they are trying to achieve in a long term breeding plan with fantastic examples of the breed. I'm pretty sure your dog (although never seen a pic) won't be a good enough example to breed with, most are not!

Don't quite agree with that. Not everybody who breeds a litter will be part of a 'breeding programme'. Everybody has to start somewhere! Many people breed good litters, but are not top breeders and may only breed one or two litters in their lifetime - as long as all the right boxes are ticked then I don't see a problem.

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 16:03

Caryll wrote:I think that unless you are breeding to 'better the breed' then you shouldn't do it, full stop.

Steve wrote:if you do my follow list i dont have a problem

1) have around 8-10 people who want a pup from you all good home
2) you dont crossbreed!
3) you dont inbred or keep it ion the family
4) both dog health tested for everything
5) BIG no to blue to blue mating also white and white matings

I would add to that, that both dog & bitch should be KC registered and of exceptional breed standard quality.

DragonTheStaffie wrote:I don't understand why you can't breed like white and white or blue and blue? Not that I'd do it because I've seen a lot of people saying it but never understood why people say it? Would it cause any problems to the puppies?

Blue x Blue gives an increased risk of Colour Dilution Alopecia and White x White gives an increased risk of skin problems/allergies & deafness.

blaze wrote:Unless u are part of a breeding programme and breeding only to better the breed then you are a byb and potentially only adding to the crisis of staffys in rescue. As said before leave breeding to reputable breeders who have a plan and no what they are trying to achieve in a long term breeding plan with fantastic examples of the breed. I'm pretty sure your dog (although never seen a pic) won't be a good enough example to breed with, most are not!

Don't quite agree with that. Not everybody who breeds a litter will be part of a 'breeding programme'. Everybody has to start somewhere! Many people breed good litters, but are not top breeders and may only breed one or two litters in their lifetime - as long as all the right boxes are ticked then I don't see a problem.

would be nice to see i think a proper breeding program were only reg breeders were allowed to breed and newbies wanting to be breeders needing to be trained by other breeders so everyone was breeding to same standard of level .
but saddly this will never be the case Sad

by **janey** Sat Jan 26 2013, 16:23

No, no, no and no!

by Sar H Sat Jan 26 2013, 16:52

Having seen first hand the problem with staffies being abandoned, and the number pts every week for lack of space in rescue centres, I'd say no.
I don't think dogs think like people and worry about their virginity (I could be wrong of course - but my view would be don't tell him he's missing out and he won't know Laughing

)

Of course it is all your choice, but personally I think there are already more staffy pups than homes so why add to the problem.

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 16:54

Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 16:56

Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??

He's said already that he isn't going to breed Dragon. Tongues

by **pongy** Sat Jan 26 2013, 16:57

Sar H wrote:
I don't think dogs think like people and worry about their virginity (I could be wrong of course - but my view would be don't tell him he's missing out and he won't know )

Cassie does she has just put her best tarting lippy on, iv'e told her no and she is grounded but teenagers what can you do eh?? rolling on the floor

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 17:01

Dogs don't need Sex to live a fulfilled life.

by **reuben** Sat Jan 26 2013, 17:21

If there was any real political will to cut down on the number of unwanted dogs the answer would be simple.
No-one would be allowed to buy a dog without first having a license, which would involve going through an oral and practical test and background checks carried out to ascertain their suitability to own a dog.
Any dog for sale would be micro-chipped by the vendor and the buyers license details recorded.
If said dog was found not to be properly cared for the owners license could be rescinded and therefore they would be unable to purchase another dog.
Or is this too simplistic???

by **janey** Sat Jan 26 2013, 17:28

reuben wrote:
If there was any real political will to cut down on the number of unwanted dogs the answer would be simple.
No-one would be allowed to buy a dog without first having a license, which would involve going through an oral and practical test and background checks carried out to ascertain their suitability to own a dog.
Any dog for sale would be micro-chipped by the vendor and the buyers license details recorded.
If said dog was found not to be properly cared for the owners license could be rescinded and therefore they would be unable to purchase another dog.
Or is this too simplistic???

Completely agree, but where does the funding come from if thinking in a practical way. And you'll still get byb but they will cost even more! Its a vicious circle, but there are things that should be implemented ie micro-chips, thats where we should start.

by **reuben** Sat Jan 26 2013, 17:32

janey wrote:
reuben wrote:
If there was any real political will to cut down on the number of unwanted dogs the answer would be simple.
No-one would be allowed to buy a dog without first having a license, which would involve going through an oral and practical test and background checks carried out to ascertain their suitability to own a dog.
Any dog for sale would be micro-chipped by the vendor and the buyers license details recorded.
If said dog was found not to be properly cared for the owners license could be rescinded and therefore they would be unable to purchase another dog.
Or is this too simplistic???

Completely agree, but where does the funding come from if thinking in a practical way. And you'll still get byb but they will cost even more! Its a vicious circle, but there are things that should be implemented ie micro-chips, thats where we should start.

Re funding. There could be an annual licence fee. It's not foolproof, just an idea I've kicked around which sprang to mind when reading about the plight of many retired greyhounds.

by cheeky angel kim Sat Jan 26 2013, 17:57

there so meny dogs needing homes and to much breeding soon as missy has aher first season she is in to be spayed rocky was done a week after i had him

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 17:59

cheeky angel kim wrote:there so meny dogs needing homes and to much breeding soon as missy has aher first season she is in to be spayed rocky was done a week after i had him

Glad you're waiting until she's had a season! thumbs up

by Mani Sat Jan 26 2013, 18:03

Dogs don't know the concept of virginity or bucket lists of stuff to do before death. That's just you thinking your boy is an actual boy.

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 18:37

i don't breed and have no intention of breeding AND harvey will be keeping his balls and will always be a virgin Wink

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 18:39

I don't agree at all. It's instinct in all animals to want to reproduce, but dogs aren't people. Females aren't going to feel unfulfilled because they don't have a litter of puppies, that's just a myth. Dogs live in the moment, they don't sit there feeling bad about what they don't have, they enjoy what they do have. Dying a virgin is just this human-made idea you've put onto your dog when your dog honestly doesn't care. He'd care if he came across a female in heat, but even then he'd soon forget about it completely.

I just think, look at all the abandoned puppies on sites, all the "I got a puppy a few weeks ago and had no idea it'd be hard work so now I'm selling it to whoever gives me the most money" and tell me you'd feel OK about contributing to that (even if not on purpose) just for the same of Dragon having mated once? Wouldn't be worth it, there are plenty of people breeding their dogs for reasons other than to better the breed, and it doesn't always end well.

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 18:53

Dogs don't really care about being virgins. I would never breed logan for three reasons. 1, I don't know much about it. 2, he is a fair bit bigger than the breed standard and wouldn't produce show quality pups. 3, because of his size I would assume he would sire big pups which I'd be afraid of getting into the wrong hands, especially where I live.

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:19

Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??

No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

I'm not a dog breeder and don't plan on being one, but I do plan on getting more staffys when I'm older, this might sound stupid to most people but to me it makes sense. When I was younger I use to be scared of any type of animals really (I wouldn't even feed my mums fish I dont want to s

), then my mum bought Dragon, which I totally feel in love with. A few good months before that, maybe even a year, my grand dad died. Of course I don't think my grand dad somewhat came back to live in a dog form, but I don't know why I just loved this boy and I never liked any other animals. I then started being more and more in love with all staffys and joined the forum to learn more, because since I was afraid of animals I didn't know how to really look after the dog, I knew the basics but I didn't know everything I needed to know, so I joined to learn and I've learn quite a lot here. I then started about getting another dog, but it's impossible because of Dragon, so for now I'm going to look into someone around my area who can help with my problem.

Then later on in the future I pretend to be getting more staffys because it just feels right, and because I love the breed, it amuses me the way they're and what they do.
But this is me talking now, of course if I don't have enough money to do what I want to do, I won't be able to get more dogs and be able to buy things for them, feed them, taking them to vet. But if I can and hopefully I will be able to, I'll be getting more staffys.

My girlfriend and my mum think I'm crazy, because it's weird how 1 dog changed me Laughing

I believe Dragon ended up with me because it was meant to be... day dreaming

by **pongy** Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:23

Well said and well done on dispelling some of my thoughts of your original post Joe

by **reuben** Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:43

DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??
No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

I'm not a dog breeder and don't plan on being one, but I do plan on getting more staffys when I'm older, this might sound stupid to most people but to me it makes sense. When I was younger I use to be scared of any type of animals really (I wouldn't even feed my mums fish ), then my mum bought Dragon, which I totally feel in love with. A few good months before that, maybe even a year, my grand dad died. Of course I don't think my grand dad somewhat came back to live in a dog form, but I don't know why I just loved this boy and I never liked any other animals. I then started being more and more in love with all staffys and joined the forum to learn more, because since I was afraid of animals I didn't know how to really look after the dog, I knew the basics but I didn't know everything I needed to know, so I joined to learn and I've learn quite a lot here. I then started about getting another dog, but it's impossible because of Dragon, so for now I'm going to look into someone around my area who can help with my problem.

Then later on in the future I pretend to be getting more staffys because it just feels right, and because I love the breed, it amuses me the way they're and what they do.
But this is me talking now, of course if I don't have enough money to do what I want to do, I won't be able to get more dogs and be able to buy things for them, feed them, taking them to vet. But if I can and hopefully I will be able to, I'll be getting more staffys.

My girlfriend and my mum think I'm crazy, because it's weird how 1 dog changed me I believe Dragon ended up with me because it was meant to be...

Sounds like Dragon and you are good for each other. Love Struck

by **janey** Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:45

Agree

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:47

Quite frankly, I think you're doing a great job with Dragon! You clearly care very much about him. Smile

I wish there were more owners out there who have such consideration for their dogs!

by **pongy** Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:49

Eleanor wrote:Quite frankly, I think you're doing a great job with Dragon! You clearly care very much about him. I wish there were more owners out there who have such consideration for their dogs!

AGREED

well said

by **Jackieb** Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:53

I know a lot of good breeders.... Producing lots of quality litters, waiting lists and ppl willing to wait months for the right pup.

It's the BYB that ruin n spoil it IMO.

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 19:58

DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??
No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

Oh it's just that you said you would buy her if she lived closer..

But yeah it's a bad idea breeding staffs for no reason. Proper breeder's producing breed standard's to proper owner's then maybe but other than that no one should contribute to the huge problem we have with staff's up for adoption praying

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:00

Jason wrote:
DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??
No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

Oh...

But yeah it's a bad idea breeding staffs for no reason. Proper breeder's producing breed standard's to proper owner's then maybe but other than that no one should contribute to the huge problem we have with staff's up for adoption

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:04

I do care a lot about my boy, I took him from my mum, she wanted to give him away because he weed inside the house etc. (I've to admit my mum is not good with dogs, now that I've been here and stuff I'm starting to see how bad of a dog owner she is). So like I was saying she wanted to give him away and said he could never come inside her house again, and me at 17 years old told her that I'd take the dog and moved out, to my girlfriends house and started looking after the dog, he's became such a big thing in my life, I have more respect for my dog than I have for some people.

I might ask some weird questions (like this topic most people took it the wrong way), I'm only 17 years old and this is the first ever dog I've had and looked after, but in no way would I do anything that could harm my boy (for example dog fighting), if I was ever to sell Dragon (which I'm pretty sure that I never will) I wouldn't just sell it to anyone, because the people from here aren't them type of people you could trust, and if I ever sold him, I'd have to be able to see him every so now again. Blushing

But I do not plan on selling him or anything like that.

But I do hope sometime in the future I can get another staffy to play with Dragon. Smile

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:09

Jason wrote:
DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??
No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

Oh it's just that you said you would buy her if she lived closer..

But yeah it's a bad idea breeding staffs for no reason. Proper breeder's producing breed standard's to proper owner's then maybe but other than that no one should contribute to the huge problem we have with staff's up for adoption

If my boy wasn't so aggressive and she lived closer I'd probably end up buying her, I loved her from the moment I seen her, and I could just see that she wasn't being treated right, I'd rather give £600 to that person and make sure that staffy gets a good home and be looked after, than end up letting her go when I could of bought her, and then she ends up in the wrong hands and gets used for dog fighting. She was a little stunner, but then again I have never seen 1 ugly staffy Smile

If I could I'd get all the staffys in the world needing a home and have them all Laughing

but that's impossible, but if it was possible I would for sure Big Grin

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:15

Keep working with Dragon and you'll be able to have another some day for sure Joe. I'm working towards it too with Logan...it ain't easy lol!

by **Jackieb** Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:17

Well said Joe Smile

by **DragonTheStaffie** Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:25

I'm sure Dragon sooner or later will pick up that dogs are friendly, he's a very smart dog and learns very quick, he's always impressed me. I just need to find the right person to help me and that knows what they're doing, then from there it should get easier Smile

I know he won't be ok with other dogs from 1 day to the other, it takes time but I don't mind. Smile

by Guest Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:32

Good attitude matey! Smile

by archielaws Sat Jan 26 2013, 20:33

DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??
No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

I'm not a dog breeder and don't plan on being one, but I do plan on getting more staffys when I'm older, this might sound stupid to most people but to me it makes sense. When I was younger I use to be scared of any type of animals really (I wouldn't even feed my mums fish ), then my mum bought Dragon, which I totally feel in love with. A few good months before that, maybe even a year, my grand dad died. Of course I don't think my grand dad somewhat came back to live in a dog form, but I don't know why I just loved this boy and I never liked any other animals. I then started being more and more in love with all staffys and joined the forum to learn more, because since I was afraid of animals I didn't know how to really look after the dog, I knew the basics but I didn't know everything I needed to know, so I joined to learn and I've learn quite a lot here. I then started about getting another dog, but it's impossible because of Dragon, so for now I'm going to look into someone around my area who can help with my problem.

Then later on in the future I pretend to be getting more staffys because it just feels right, and because I love the breed, it amuses me the way they're and what they do.
But this is me talking now, of course if I don't have enough money to do what I want to do, I won't be able to get more dogs and be able to buy things for them, feed them, taking them to vet. But if I can and hopefully I will be able to, I'll be getting more staffys.

My girlfriend and my mum think I'm crazy, because it's weird how 1 dog changed me I believe Dragon ended up with me because it was meant to be...

Well said mate, nice post.

by **Keith** Sat Jan 26 2013, 21:17

Having just seen the owner of the rescue I foster for take a difficult phone call from a pound - 10 staffies to be rehomed now or be PTS and her have only space for two and be in bits about the other eight - has reinforced my view that in this present staffy over-populated world, the fewer that are bred without pre-booked owners and good blood lines, the better.

I've only been associated with this rescue for about six months and already know of 40+ dogs PTS at pounds because there's nowhere for them to go and no funding available.

Just beggars belief.

So, dying a virgin is a small price to pay, notwithstanding the fact even male dogs that have been castrated will happily get their rocks off on a duvet/leg/whatever they can mount.

by **rebeccaleanne** Sat Jan 26 2013, 21:25

DragonTheStaffie wrote:
Jason wrote:Did you want that blue female the other day for breeding??
No, for a few reasons.
1- I don't have the time to look after the puppies when they're born.
2- I don't have enough space.
3- I don't know what to do if anything happens while the bitch is giving birth.
4- Either Dragon would bite her or she'd bite him, which would end up bad, most likely with one of them either really hurt OR even dead, as Dragon will not listen when he goes in ''attack mode''.
5- The people where I live are not capable of looking after a dog, they're mostly druggies and would probably use the dogs for dog fighting or whatever.

I'm not a dog breeder and don't plan on being one, but I do plan on getting more staffys when I'm older, this might sound stupid to most people but to me it makes sense. When I was younger I use to be scared of any type of animals really (I wouldn't even feed my mums fish ), then my mum bought Dragon, which I totally feel in love with. A few good months before that, maybe even a year, my grand dad died. Of course I don't think my grand dad somewhat came back to live in a dog form, but I don't know why I just loved this boy and I never liked any other animals. I then started being more and more in love with all staffys and joined the forum to learn more, because since I was afraid of animals I didn't know how to really look after the dog, I knew the basics but I didn't know everything I needed to know, so I joined to learn and I've learn quite a lot here. I then started about getting another dog, but it's impossible because of Dragon, so for now I'm going to look into someone around my area who can help with my problem.

Then later on in the future I pretend to be getting more staffys because it just feels right, and because I love the breed, it amuses me the way they're and what they do.
But this is me talking now, of course if I don't have enough money to do what I want to do, I won't be able to get more dogs and be able to buy things for them, feed them, taking them to vet. But if I can and hopefully I will be able to, I'll be getting more staffys.

My girlfriend and my mum think I'm crazy, because it's weird how 1 dog changed me I believe Dragon ended up with me because it was meant to be...

well said joe, i totally agre with you and welldone for explaining your corner. on the snipping part i would reccomend this just for as others have explained about humping etc tyke has never done and which am glad about.It may help him aswell in other ways Big Grin

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