Pitbull?

Today i went out with my little staffie and people alway's ask if he is a staffie X pitbull! It really annoy's me as i brought him off pets4homes and they said he was a full staff he has no paper's but it has got me thinking? Maybe he could be But i will love him whatever he is!!! I know one staffie X pit and he is really really aggressive toward's everyday! He has also turned up a cat in the year's he has been alive, but my marley is not like that he love's everyone and what's to be every animal's friend!! It's cat's who wack him! Bless!, but the police pulled up to me + said to me they wanted him off the streets because he is full pit?? Is he hell!!!! Why are people so horrible!

there very few real pitbulls in the uk there 'type' that are crossbreed to have similar look of a pitbull...

no dog are born nasty it's how they are brought up!

lots of people think Jelly is part pit and I raised the concern to my vet who said there is low risk of that and very few people in the UK are even qualified to make that judgment. scary about the police though, I would feel like crap too. I really hope you have no problems, especially if he has no and doesn't develop a history of being naughty or dangerous, as I'm sure he won't

I've met some true pittys in america and they were the softest dog ever and loved a good cuddle

I did feel like crap because i told the police that he is a staffy but they said he was full pit! and it really annoyed me because it's not like marley was doing anything for them to stop and say something bad about him so that made me feel like utter poo! Don't get me wrong i don't mind if he is pit or staff! It's just if they take him off me i will be heartbroken

very unlikely he was even a pitbull!! because he look like something it doesn't mean they are.

i could breed a lab and staffy or a boxer with a lab and you could have a dog that look like a pitbull

My friend had a similar thing happen with his dog who is a staff x.his looks like your dog on your profile pic but hes black and White his nose is slightly longer than a normal staffs and he's quite leggy but other than that you'd think he was a staff he's also soft as clarts!anyway he was about just over 3 month cos he just went out as he had his jabs and the police were on field dealing with lads on a bike when they stopped him and picked his dog up to check it out.they pulled his cheeks back(something to do with elasticity apparently)took details and said they will return when the dog turns one year old.tbh I don't think they will as if they were that bothered why not take it there and then? I just think some of them are a pain where others wouldn't bother you.if you look at the dog laws and they do determine him to be a pit or pit bull type it states you can still keep him as long as he's chipped,tattoed,muzzled in public neutered and isn't aggressive.I'm sure it won't even come to this and you'll have a normal happy dog in marley.try not to worry it'll be fine

sorry he looks nothing like a 'full pit' certainly a staffy X

Strange...If the police stopped you in the street because they thought he was a pit then they should've seized him...

Well, I got Loki from Pets4homes with the breeder saying he was a full Staff, but recently found out he's half Staff, half Presa Canario. But that's nothing to do with the site itself, just that some breeders deceive people. Anyway, I'd pay no attention; a few people have asked if Loki is a Pitbull because I guess they look similar to most people unless they have experience with the breeds. There was a story I read about a woman whose Labrador was mistaken for a Pitbull and there were threats about getting him taken off her. Basically, people are idiots and just because they think a dog (a puppy, in fact, that hasn't even developed into itself completely yet) is a Pitbull, doesn't mean it is. Focus on training a well-behaved, well-socialised dog, enjoy his company and ignore people's ignorance.

ANattyRat wrote:Well, I got Loki from Pets4homes with the breeder saying he was a full Staff, but recently found out he's half Staff, half Presa Canario. But that's nothing to do with the site itself,

Got to disagree with you a little bit there I'm afraid as these sites allow this to happen.

These days there are only 2 good ways to get a staffy and that is either from a rescue or from a registered breeder. And a good registered breeder doesn't use sites like pets 4 homes. If they are legit and the dogs tick all the boxes they can use sites like champdogs so no need for gumtree or pets 4 homes. But it has to be said the best and most established breeders don't even advertise and have their books full and a waiting list long before a mating has even taken place.

ANattyRat wrote: Focus on training a well-behaved, well-socialised dog, enjoy his company and ignore people's ignorance.

Good advice.

As Steve has said many times before, there are very few, of any full bred American Pitbull Terriers in the UK. Also if the police stoppped you and made that comment I would seriously consider seeking legal advice as that is not the way the process works!!

Dave wrote:

ANattyRat wrote:Well, I got Loki from Pets4homes with the breeder saying he was a full Staff, but recently found out he's half Staff, half Presa Canario. But that's nothing to do with the site itself,

Got to disagree with you a little bit there I'm afraid as these sites allow this to happen.

These days there are only 2 good ways to get a staffy and that is either from a rescue or from a registered breeder. And a good registered breeder doesn't use sites like pets 4 homes. If they are legit and the dogs tick all the boxes they can use sites like champdogs so no need for gumtree or pets 4 homes. But it has to be said the best and most established breeders don't even advertise and have their books full and a waiting list long before a mating has even taken place.

This! And not just Staffords, dogs in general

Dave wrote:

ANattyRat wrote:Well, I got Loki from Pets4homes with the breeder saying he was a full Staff, but recently found out he's half Staff, half Presa Canario. But that's nothing to do with the site itself,

Got to disagree with you a little bit there I'm afraid as these sites allow this to happen.

These days there are only 2 good ways to get a staffy and that is either from a rescue or from a registered breeder. And a good registered breeder doesn't use sites like pets 4 homes. If they are legit and the dogs tick all the boxes they can use sites like champdogs so no need for gumtree or pets 4 homes. But it has to be said the best and most established breeders don't even advertise and have their books full and a waiting list long before a mating has even taken place.

I get where you're coming from, but long before I got Loki I'd browse those sites just to look at the puppies and wish I could have one lol, and there were lots of registered breeders with their own websites and everything who were on there too. At the end of the day, irresponsible breeders can advertise anywhere, but it wouldn't be fair to ban sites like that for the good that comes from it, and the good breeders. But I do get what you mean, but I think there could be a middle ground of restrictions put in place. Still, irresponsible or not, the puppies exist, so what would happen to them if no-one did buy any? I'm not saying it's right that people are just breeding their dogs and selling the puppies to whoever will have them so they can make money, but people do that, and a lot of things for money. At least they can find good homes that way (most of the time).

Thanks everyone i will try and find out for the pet's if he is full staffy

Doesnt look anything like a pit so i wouldnt worry. If you need reasurance you can download defras guidlines for pitbull type dogs. If the police realy thought he was a pit they would have taken your details and your dog would be assesed by the forces DLA.
You can look at any bull breed to see similarities of some sort. So many "dog experts" out there, next time just ask them what pitbull specific qualities they think he has. Or just ask them what a pitbull looks like and watch them squirm

Oh thank's!! I will try that!! i think they just came to me because am only 18 and seen a staffie with me! so think they was just being d*ckh*ads

ANattyRat wrote:

Dave wrote:

ANattyRat wrote:Well, I got Loki from Pets4homes with the breeder saying he was a full Staff, but recently found out he's half Staff, half Presa Canario. But that's nothing to do with the site itself,

Got to disagree with you a little bit there I'm afraid as these sites allow this to happen.

These days there are only 2 good ways to get a staffy and that is either from a rescue or from a registered breeder. And a good registered breeder doesn't use sites like pets 4 homes. If they are legit and the dogs tick all the boxes they can use sites like champdogs so no need for gumtree or pets 4 homes. But it has to be said the best and most established breeders don't even advertise and have their books full and a waiting list long before a mating has even taken place.

I get where you're coming from, but long before I got Loki I'd browse those sites just to look at the puppies and wish I could have one lol, and there were lots of registered breeders with their own websites and everything who were on there too. At the end of the day, irresponsible breeders can advertise anywhere, but it wouldn't be fair to ban sites like that for the good that comes from it, and the good breeders. But I do get what you mean, but I think there could be a middle ground of restrictions put in place. Still, irresponsible or not, the puppies exist, so what would happen to them if no-one did buy any? I'm not saying it's right that people are just breeding their dogs and selling the puppies to whoever will have them so they can make money, but people do that, and a lot of things for money. At least they can find good homes that way (most of the time).

But good breeders do not advertise on free add sites like that and if no one bought badly bred pups, people would stop breeding them!

ETA: And by badly, I mean unethically and I don't mean that those dogs' lives are worth any less

I think the first thing is to get rid of the "what if" mentality . Somewhere along the line some puppy's are going to take a hit , but in the long term it will be good for the breed. If I thought along these lines then I wouldnt have Tilly but at the same time if I had known more a few years ago these people wouldn't be breeding so I would have gone elsewhere

kirsty-marley-1 wrote:Oh thank's!! I will try that!! i think they just came to me because am only 18 and seen a staffie with me! so think they was just being d*ckh*ads

Unfortunatly mate people are as judgmental towards other people as they are to dogs. They see a youn lad out with his dog and think trouble. I see a young lad out enjoying his dog. People can be pathetic sheep sometimes. Best thing to do is rise above them as you will meet some nice people out on walks that will love you and your dog. No one speaks to me when i dont have my dogs with me yet when i do ive had realy nice chats with nutty old ladies to the classic "hoodie" at the end of the day we share a common bond in dogs and its a strong one

what is considered a "pit bull" i was under the impression a staffordshire bull terrier was a pit bull...along with american pit bull terriers, am staff, and american bulldog...i never knew that pit bull was a breed of dog just a classifaction for certain dogs...

staffy, pitbulls, boston terrier, bull terrier are from Bull & terriers lines

A true pit by defination is a dog that fights in a pit... As humans we developed a good dog to fight in a pit. Brave, fearless but loyal to humans which is why most pics youll see of a fight will show a human in the pit itself. I could go on forever on this but what pisses me of most ispeople saying "oh he has pit in him" NO! * head he has bull bread in him. Bloody uneducated chav dog know it alls..

willieshotg3 wrote:what is considered a "pit bull" i was under the impression a staffordshire bull terrier was a pit bull...along with american pit bull terriers, am staff, and american bulldog...i never knew that pit bull was a breed of dog just a classifaction for certain dogs...

Depends what you mean by pit bull. Yes, all fighting dogs fight in pits & are therefore 'pit' dogs, but the only dog that is actually called that as a breed is the American Pit Bull Terrier. However, the law in the UK bans pit bull 'type' dogs.

ella wrote:I've met some true pittys in america and they were the softest dog ever and loved a good cuddle

Couldn't agree more. So much misinformation out there. I personally like the SBT better but it is more of a size deal for me than anything else. They are very similar until you put them next to eachother.

don't get hung up on the pit-bull thing. if a pitbull cross near you is agressive has no bearing on them as a breed or your dog. the chance of your dog having any pit in him atall is slim to none anyway. and if you find out he has got any pit in him my advice would be keep it to yourself, as it could result in dog being taken off you.