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Post by carpboy Wed May 02 2012, 19:20

Hi all just wondering where i stand,my son has taken blue for a walk had him on a lead when a labradoodle i believe came up sniffed blue and blue attacked the dog biting the other dogs mouth and causing it to blead my sons says it was very bad,by the time i got to where they had the dogs the owner had rushed his dog to the vet,he has taken my sons number a name.Where do we stand with this from a legal point of view?
any help advise would be great cheers
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Post by Steve Wed May 02 2012, 19:25

it was dog on dog also you had him on the lead... i cant see anything happen but i wouldn't let your son walk him again.

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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 19:47

If the labradoodle wasn't on a lead then you have nothing to worry about, as a good will gesture you can offer to help with the vet fee as this might save him calling the police, but if he insists you pay for all of it politely say your dog was on a lead and his dog came up to yours uninvited and that's the other dogs owners fault not your dogs.

How old is your son?

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Post by Kathy Wed May 02 2012, 19:56

Legal complications can be just that very complicated. I cannot imagine anything coming of it to be honest with you, may be best to seek legal advice if you are worried. Or speak to the local dog warden, after all the other dog was loose.

May be an idea to offer to pay the vet bill or at least half of it.

I paid for a vet bill when I had just got Rocky and he got in a tussel with a puppy. They were both on leads though and got tangled up. However when their other dog (a German Shepherd Dog running loose) attacked Rocky and he needed veterinary care I paid all the vet bill myself.

Please be aware that whoever was walking the dog at the time of the attack will be legally responsible for it's actions.


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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 20:21

How old is your son?

The only complication I can envisage is that, if your son is very young, he may not be considered to have been 'in control' of your dog.

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Post by carpboy Wed May 02 2012, 20:27

my son is 21 cheers so far guys
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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 20:29

At 21 he will be well old enough to be in control, so you really don't have anything to worry about. Like said, if you want to as a good will gesture offer to help the payment do but legally your son was in control. The warden might ask you to muzzle him in public in future. Tell him where to go!

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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 20:31

carpboy wrote:my son is 21 cheers so far guys
Equi wrote:At 21 he will be well old enough to be in control, so you really don't have anything to worry about. Like said, if you want to as a good will gesture offer to help the payment do but legally your son was in control. The warden might ask you to muzzle him in public in future. Tell him where to go!

Yes, in that case the incident is dog on dog, and as your dog was on a lead & the other one easn't, your son shouldn't be held responsible.

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Post by carpboy Wed May 02 2012, 22:06

cheers guys,mrs rang the guy earlyier and the dog was a welsh terrier,being kept in overnight and needed some stitches to his mouth,the guys gonna ring again tommorow to let us know how his dog is!
But yea deffo gonna muzzle him in the future,talking of muzzles,anyone reccomend any??
Cheers for replys again peeps xx
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Post by Steve Wed May 02 2012, 22:09

i wouldn't muzzle any of my dogs.. you just have to keep him away from other dog if he dont like them. i would let your son take him out again.

http://staffy-bull-terrier.co.uk/dogbodylanguage.html <<<-- read this learn his body language.

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Post by Marty Wed May 02 2012, 22:23

A dog bite always looks bad as they tend to bleed a lot even from a small would a dalmatian bit Samson's ear and there was blood everywhere when i cleaned it it was a tiny nick

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Post by carpboy Wed May 02 2012, 22:24

Steve wrote:i wouldn't muzzle any of my dogs.. you just have to keep him away from other dog if he dont like them. i would let your son take him out again.

http://staffy-bull-terrier.co.uk/dogbodylanguage.html <<<-- read this learn his body language.

Fair enough,my boy wont be taking blue out again but from what he was saying there was no chance for body language as the dog came up to blue and blue just snapped and sunk his teeth in!
Normally when we walk him we will let him off when there are no other dogs around as we are wary,when there are other dogs i have him on a lead and am in control but if another dog insists on coming up to blue like has already happened im not to sure now as i dont want this to happen again Wink
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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 22:25

I wouldn't muzzle him unless you are cited and TOLD to. I don't think it is necessary. You now know that he will attack if a dog gets too close so in future ask people to call their dogs back.

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Post by Steve Wed May 02 2012, 22:27

there will be warning signs like ears going back, hair sticking up there will be signs you have to learn them....


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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 22:35

Even just looking at the other dog can be a warning. If he is looking and not looking away even if you call, that is a definite warning.

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Post by Guest Wed May 02 2012, 22:43

My old boy attacked another dog and we was ordered to muzzle him because the owner of the other dog was a right *strong word i wont type* .. he went to the police and told this mad story to later be told that the police knew he was lying because it happend right in view of cctv however my dog still has to be muzzled! banghead
Hopefully it wont come to that for you as i think if the owner wanted to be funny then he would of when you rang to ask how the dog was.
You should automatically know when a dog is going to attack, them ears will go straight back! the body will go stiff and the hair will stand, once youve seen it once it sticks.

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Post by Ben Wed May 02 2012, 22:45

I don't think blue did anything wrong. The other dog approached him. You will have to be extra careful now that you know what blue would do. However, it wasn't his fault. It is like many things, it just happened. I wouldn't muzzel him either, but I would be really careful where I walked him and I would be very aware of any other dogs about.
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Post by Steve Wed May 02 2012, 22:45

someone who live behind me he got 3 staffy his dogs kill collie the police went around told they cant do anything becasue it was a dog on dog and ask him not to take them all out at the same time again.

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Post by carpboy Wed May 02 2012, 22:53

Cheers guys advice taken onboard,i will let you know if the guy rings tommorrow!
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Post by Guest Thu May 03 2012, 10:41

where abouts in dorset are you? I live just outside of yeovil... Smile

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Post by Guest Thu May 03 2012, 10:44

carpboy wrote:cheers guys,mrs rang the guy earlyier and the dog was a welsh terrier,being kept in overnight and needed some stitches to his mouth,the guys gonna ring again tommorow to let us know how his dog is!
But yea deffo gonna muzzle him in the future,talking of muzzles,anyone reccomend any??
Cheers for replys again peeps xx

I wouldn't muzzle him, personally. But if you're going to, then a basket muzzle is best as he can still pant & drink with it on.

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Post by carpboy Thu May 03 2012, 13:29

blaze wrote:where abouts in dorset are you? I live just outside of yeovil... Smile

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Post by dave g Thu May 03 2012, 16:29

Equi wrote:I wouldn't muzzle him unless you are cited and TOLD to. I don't think it is necessary. You now know that he will attack if a dog gets too close so in future ask people to call their dogs back.
Totally agree
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Post by carpboy Thu May 31 2012, 19:12

Just an update guyz,been nearly a month now and the guy was gonna ring us back but never did,so no news is good news i suppose.As for blue we are just more careful when we take him for a walk we are just more mindfull of other dogs.
Cheers for all the comments though.
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Post by Ben Thu May 31 2012, 19:15

Good to put things like that well behind you. Thanks for the update!
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Post by Guest Thu May 31 2012, 19:25

I hope your son hasn't lost confidence being with him.
Would be a shame if your son didn't walk him anymore and ends up losing out on bonding with the family dog just because of a dog off lead.
All he can do is ask the other person to recall their dog. It's up to the other person to control their dog not your sons

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Post by carpboy Thu May 31 2012, 19:38

BlueStaffBlue wrote:I hope your son hasn't lost confidence being with him.
Would be a shame if your son didn't walk him anymore and ends up losing out on bonding with the family dog just because of a dog off lead.
All he can do is ask the other person to recall their dog. It's up to the other person to control their dog not your sons

yea agrea,he will take him out in the future i think he was just a little shocked to be honest!
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Post by jshrew Thu May 31 2012, 20:11

Thank you for the update we nearly had a similar incident today with a lurcher type that has been crazy since a pup and has just had a growth spurt it isn't aggressive just very full on and ran full pelt at Ledger then would step away and pounce back at him (either the dog has changed owners or was with a dog walker) Ledger really isn't comfortable unless the other dog is calm and all his warning signs were going thankfully he listened to me and this dog eventually got shooed away by the owner/walker (after they let their other dog also approach) but still not put on lead!

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 01 2012, 10:37

Thanks for the update.

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