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by danhampson Sat Mar 17 2012, 14:49

ive started feeding deisel 2 meals dry (jwb) and one raw is this going to ok for a pup he is 9 weeks

by Guest Sat Mar 17 2012, 16:53

Yes thats fine, better to feed raw first thing because it takes longer to digest
Smile

by marloes Sun Mar 18 2012, 09:37

i've been told that between a raw meal and kibble must be about 8 hours time, due to digestion

by Guest Sun Mar 18 2012, 19:30

marloes wrote:i've been told that between a raw meal and kibble must be about 8 hours time, due to digestion

Raw meat only takes about 4-5 hours to digest, so a raw meal in the morning should be ok.

I'd be more concerned with the fact that you're only feeding 3 meals a day! At 9 weeks it should ideally be 4 meals.

by **Andy** Sun Mar 18 2012, 20:19

I've considered this, as I'm always thinking of ways to keep Max on food that works for his activity level, and that he like's .... and I know bugger all about raw really Blushing

Sayin that, I gave him the raw off-cuts of 6 large, free range fresh chicken breasts a couple weeks ago, and he LOVED it !!

He's doing pretty well on what he's on at the mo, but will the odd peice of raw meat give him the sh!ts now and then out of interest ?

by **shakespearesdog** Sun Mar 18 2012, 21:14

but will the odd peice of raw meat give him the sh!ts now and then out of interest ?

I feed Romeo dry and raw and he's fine. What sort of meat do you mean, lamb and beef?

by danhampson Mon Mar 19 2012, 13:50

i gave him beef and its not give him the runs. It was some frying steak from the supermarket.

by chrissy Mon Mar 19 2012, 17:01

raw is great, i feed my dog 75% raw 25% veg, when i told the breeder (when checking out staffies) he said i should be feeding them 30% raw. I felt whats the difference of 5% .....maybe controlling the situation and conversation, who knows some people put brown rice i occasionally put qunioa if shes had alot of excercise. Also ground chicken backs are good because they need the calcium and raw bones to chew! So glad ur feeding raw, it makes a huge difference.

by **Andy** Tue Mar 20 2012, 09:33

The differance between breeder saying 30% raw, and you feeding 75% raw is 35% Wink

... not 5% !!

by Guest Tue Mar 20 2012, 10:33

I don't know if you can get it in the UK but it's cheap as here (for obvious reasons LOL) but we give Vlad roo mince of a morning. It's really lean, hardly any fat and hasn't affected his belly at all! He loves it. He has eggs and dry food at night. I've taken to cooking some extra veges of a night to give him with his morning meal too.

by chrissy Tue Mar 20 2012, 15:47

Andy wrote:The differance between breeder saying 30% raw, and you feeding 75% raw is 35% ... not 5% !!

it was late at night when i wrote that, haha

by Guest Tue Mar 20 2012, 16:28

Andy wrote:The differance between breeder saying 30% raw, and you feeding 75% raw is 35% ... not 5% !!

No it isn't, it's 45%! Laughing

by Guest Tue Mar 20 2012, 16:51

by **dave g** Tue Mar 20 2012, 17:57

Why do half raw and half complete it dont make sense to me surely one or the other...

by Guest Tue Mar 20 2012, 19:47

dave g wrote:Why do half raw and half complete it dont make sense to me surely one or the other...

there a lot feed raw in the morning and dry on a night and it works well for them

by Guest Tue Mar 20 2012, 21:19

I'm glad I saw this. Charlie loves Marrow bones, ox heart, ox tails etc, but my freezer isn't big enough to feed him just on raw and he likes Dr Johns Silver dry. I was considering feeding dry in the morning, raw in the evening, but now I see it's best to feed raw in the morning and dry in the evening.

by **Andy** Tue Mar 20 2012, 21:23

Caryll wrote:
Andy wrote:The differance between breeder saying 30% raw, and you feeding 75% raw is 35% ... not 5% !!

No it isn't, it's 45%!

by chrissy Tue Mar 20 2012, 22:14

Caryll wrote:
Andy wrote:The differance between breeder saying 30% raw, and you feeding 75% raw is 35% ... not 5% !!

No it isn't, it's 45%!

come on give me a break! the breeder said to give 30% not 25% veg hmm 30-25= 5% difference. my point is the breeder is anal. (can i even write that on this forum? dont kick me out) but seems to me he's not the only one that is anal. i will die if he's on this forum! Laughing

by chrissy Tue Mar 20 2012, 22:15

hey im not a tard! im asain but crappy in math. Big Grin

by Guest Tue Mar 20 2012, 22:35

Why give veg at all?

Plus if you do you don't need to be so anal about it, all it is, is filler anyway!

by chrissy Wed Mar 21 2012, 00:56

i think veg is good for digestion according to my research, its cats that eat just protein. fillers are corn, rice, potatoes. theres still alot of good things in veg for them.

by Guest Wed Mar 21 2012, 01:00

to the contrary the resource iv done shows veg pass straight through with no benefit and potatoes are not good for dogs at all

by **Andy** Wed Mar 21 2012, 09:14

chrissy wrote:hey im not a tard! im asain but crappy in math.

... Chrissy, that wasnt directed at you, I was takin the p!ss outa myself for correcting you incorrectly !! Laughing

and where's my passport photo gone ? Straight Face

by Guest Wed Mar 21 2012, 11:50

ella wrote:Why give veg at all?
Plus if you do you don't need to be so anal about it, all it is, is filler anyway!

chrissy wrote:i think veg is good for digestion according to my research, its cats that eat just protein. fillers are corn, rice, potatoes. theres still alot of good things in veg for them.

Veg, if pulped or cooked, can have a beneficial effect for dogs. But they don't need it if they are fed a proper raw diet.

I actually give Dempsey a veg supplement, but that's because, due to a stomach operation he had last year, he can't always pass everything through his intestines & gets a build up of toxins. The veg supplement forms a 'bulk' that helps puch all the fecal matter (posh!) through the intestines which in turn avoids a build up in his blood.

Before the operation he was on a raw diet (no veg at all) and was perfectly healthy.

Have a look at these sites, which will help to explain the myths surrounding feeding veg to dogs...
http://www.rawmeatybones.com/petowners/whynotBARF.php
http://rawfed.com/myths/preymodel.html

by **shakespearesdog** Wed Mar 21 2012, 14:34

Why do half raw and half complete it dont make sense to me surely one or the other...

I only have a very tiny freezer unfortunately and half of it doesn't freeze properly or I would feed all raw.

by Guest Wed Mar 21 2012, 19:46

chrissy wrote:i think veg is good for digestion according to my research, its cats that eat just protein. fillers are corn, rice, potatoes. theres still alot of good things in veg for them.

My two will not eat any veg at all in any form, to me dogs are carnivores and there has not been any evidence of the benefit of veg for dogs, so yes to me they are fillers and nothing else

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