Can anyone help me figure out the cross of my staffy.

This is my staffy jasper we got him from battersea dogs home about 2 years ago and they said he was a staffy cross. We've never known what he's actually crossed with, just wondering if anyone had any ideas from the pic below?

Thank you guys

Haha sorry about the foot didn't notice that till after i posted it.

it could be with anything maybe bull terrier or even lab

Yeah ive had all different types of things said some have said pitbull and others have said Lab. lol

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Was just about to post something similar myself! Maisie was also a rescue and described as a Staffy X, but apart from her longer legs everything else seems to be pure Staffy!

Did have some chap last year saying that Staffies used to be longer legged than they are now but have no idea if that is true

I've noticed a couple of photos on here with longer legged dogs but not sure if they are crosses or not, would be interested to hear from anybody else that has crosses. One thing I do know about Maisie is that she has a very strong hunting instinct, is that normal for Staffies?

APBT? Whats that sorry lol

Oh really i didn't know that.

yeah i think that is normal for a staffy years ago they were used in tribes for hunting. My staffys are exactly the same

Staffies original breed standard in 1935 was taller than todays staffies in 1935 the breed standard was 15"-18" todays standards are 14"-16".
My two are both around 17inchs hooch as about half an inch taller than stan and hooch is kc reg. your bound too get through backs along the line stan could be a cross but he shows nothing too make me think hes a cross.

check this site out.
http://www.bluestaffordshirebullterriers.co.uk/aboutthebreed.html

He's got a slightly longer nose than most staffys I've seen but apart from that I don't see anything else

its very unlikey it be and american pitbul lterier only select few have real pitbulls.

it's more like an cross breed with a bull terrier or lab

dillibags wrote:Was just about to post something similar myself! Maisie was also a rescue and described as a Staffy X, but apart from her longer legs everything else seems to be pure Staffy!

Did have some chap last year saying that Staffies used to be longer legged than they are now but have no idea if that is true

I've noticed a couple of photos on here with longer legged dogs but not sure if they are crosses or not, would be interested to hear from anybody else that has crosses. One thing I do know about Maisie is that she has a very strong hunting instinct, is that normal for Staffies?

long legs mean they cross breed or poorly bred...

xXxshelly_stanliexXx wrote:

check this site out.
http://www.bluestaffordshirebullterriers.co.uk/aboutthebreed.html

19" these dog have pitbul Type writen all over them

here is an APBT

With the colouring im thinking collie. but tbh it looks very staffy so could be a pureish one like one parent was a staff and one parent was a staff mix.

Yeah he is more staffy than anything I recon there is possibly a cross somewhere down the line but not directly the parents themselves.

This site shows all the changes that have been made from 1935 in the staffordshire bull terrier standard.
http://www.staffordmall.com/standardhistory.htm

The breed has changed alot since it was first recognised in 1935 but the original breed standard was 15" - 18".

these breeders who using 1935 standard are breeding ban dogs.. should be reported to the kennel club and police.

What is a ‘type’ of banned dog?

A dog type is not a breed. Whether your dog is a banned type depends on what it looks like, rather than its breed or name.

If your dog matches many of the characteristics of a Pit Bull Terrier, it may be a banned type. This is because dogs with these characteristics are more likely than other dogs to cause severe harm if they attack.

It won’t matter what type or breed a dog’s parents were. (Cross-bred and mongrel dogs can have the characteristics of a Pit Bull Terrier.)

I do know what a banned dog is..

My point was and still is that the original stafford breed standard was 15"-18" i know this is not todays standards but my point still stands and you get through backs.

Oh thats intresting every pitbull ive ever met which isnt alot admittadly are very nice dogs

loz123 wrote:Oh thats intresting every pitbull ive ever met which isnt alot admittadly are very nice dogs

its every unlikey you have met an real pitbull more like a 'TYPE' or are you a dog fighter becasue that is the only time you wil see a real pit

xXxshelly_stanliexXx wrote:I do know what a banned dog is..

My point was and still is that the original stafford breed standard was 15"-18" i know this is not todays standards but my point still stands and you get through backs.

you dont get through back you just got a odd one that grow bigger then they should.

Im certianly not a dog fighter i think thats 100% wrong.

My friends got one it does look very much like a american pitt but i duno if its 100% one for sure.

alot of people have crossbreed that look similar to pitbull but that doesn't mean they are pitbull.... dog fighter wont let real pit get in the hands are joe public becasue they can easy get trace back to them...

Oh i see i don't think dog fighting should be allowed though, isn't it cruelty to animals?

it's not allow it's ban i'm just saying there are pitbulls in the uk but only select few will have them and you will never seen them but there are hell alot of TYPES you see in the uk everyday but there are crossbreeds bred to look like pitbulls.

loz123 wrote:This is my staffy jasper we got him from battersea dogs home about 2 years ago and they said he was a staffy cross. We've never known what he's actually crossed with, just wondering if anyone had any ideas from the pic below?

He's very cute, and does it really matter? Staffy X and thats all you will ever no for sure

Steve wrote:these breeders who using 1935 standard are breeding ban dogs.. should be reported to the kennel club and police.

What is a ‘type’ of banned dog?

A dog type is not a breed. Whether your dog is a banned type depends on what it looks like, rather than its breed or name.

If your dog matches many of the characteristics of a Pit Bull Terrier, it may be a banned type. This is because dogs with these characteristics are more likely than other dogs to cause severe harm if they attack.

It won’t matter what type or breed a dog’s parents were. (Cross-bred and mongrel dogs can have the characteristics of a Pit Bull Terrier.)

Like Lennox, a lab american bull dog mix. both legal dogs, but together, a banned TYPE. Typing is ridiculous.

Thank you he is cute my little baby lol x

Firstly, he's absolutely gorgeous! Those eyes would melt the hardest heart, I'm sure.

Equi wrote:With the colouring im thinking collie. but tbh it looks very staffy so could be a pureish one like one parent was a staff and one parent was a staff mix.

Could be collie or lab. But as Janey says, why worry? He's a lovely dog & you obviously think the world of him. It's enough.

If I saw him in the US, I would agree with Pado. He looks like an APBT. I doubt he is one in the UK, though. So he could be mixed with Lab or something. He's gorgeous, though, so it doesn't really matter!

Why on earth did they reduce the height on them? they look much nicer taller, like in the black and white photos on that site, see some Staffys now that look like little tiny pug dogs.

Not like the staffy I knew and grew up with, when I was a kid they were all a bit taller.

Why was it changed? think its ruining the breed imo.

I mean check this out, to me these dont even look like staffys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBmUYaa2PI&feature=related

Diwrnach wrote:Why on earth did they reduce the height on them? they look much nicer taller, like in the black and white photos on that site, see some Staffys now that look like little tiny pug dogs.

Not like the staffy I knew and grew up with, when I was a kid they were all a bit taller.

Why was it changed? think its ruining the breed imo.

I mean check this out, to me these dont even look like staffys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBmUYaa2PI&feature=related

if they keep this so call 1935 standard the staffy would of been banned when the pitbull was.... the staffy been the same size for a long long time

Staffies AND pitbulls aren't meant to be big, huge dogs. The ideal fighting dog was one you could hide under your coat should the police raid you. Game bred pits are rarely above 15'' and very lightly built.
The original bulldogs that were used for bull baiting weren't large dogs either, having a large frame would be to its detriment in the ring, it would fall heavier and get injured easier. People would often try and catch their dogs as the bull flung them up in the air-you couldn't do that with a large dog!
He looks like a staffy with a bit of collie in him. Hes the spit of the 3/4staffx1/4collie dog I used to see.

I wasn't suggesting they should be large big dogs, just the latest trend seems to be to make them as small as possible, the ones in that video I posted look like little pug dogs, they have no shape to them, they're like little fat barrels.

And this is where I think its losing its original shape.

they been that size for most of it history...

i cant find anywhere official where it stat they have change standrd..

From 2007, lovely looking dog, with nice waist, really nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdtSFhkeu_M

Then look at my other video a couple of years later, more and more seem to look like these little fat short as possible things.

they have not change over 5 years......

http://staffy-bull-terrier.co.uk/standardataglance.html

OK don't look at what I post and keep saying the same thing over and over...

I'm well aware of what the standard is thanks.

they have not change.... at 1948 the took off 2" because some breeder was keep breding them large an large for fighting rings so the staffy club removed 2" off the standard that the only big change of the staffordshire bull terrier.

the first video you post that dog wasn't fat all look a good dog

show from last year

Yep, lovely dog, those other ones from Blackpool are what I see alot of now, short fat, no chest plate, it seems the way its going more and more. The dog you link is lovely, how they used to be, and still are, but not so much, I see two or three blue ones round here that look like those Blackpool show dogs, as short as possible, overweight, no chest plate, no waist.

i think you just seen poor bred staffy mate..... i could show 1000s of different of good loking staffys

these was from last november

Nice dogs, all of them.

When I went to Crufts last year the only thing that struck me was how many of the dogs shown there are 'ripped'. It isn't something I like to see, to be honest, as it makes the dog look like a 'fighter', and that's something the breed can do without at the moment. A lean, well muscled dog is a pleasure to behold - you don't nee to strip every last gram of fat off their bodies for them to be fit & healthy.

I wasn't suggesting they should be large big dogs, just the latest trend seems to be to make them as small as possible, the ones in that video I posted look like little pug dogs, they have no shape to them, they're like little fat barrels.

And this is where I think its losing its original shape..

I didn't mean it like that Some kennels are guilty of breeding their dogs very bully type with short noses but the only barrell staffies i see about are very overweight ones and this could happen to a large or short dog.
Please don't confuse a dog being naturally stocky and muscley with being overweight. My dog is almost twice the weight of the breed standard but he isn't fat, yes he looks stocky but its all muscle. My camera isn't the best quality so it doesn't pick up every muscle line he has but you can see and feel his last two ribs prominantly but he is naturally a heavy build. Like people some dogs are heavier built then others.

When I went to Crufts last year the only thing that struck me was how many of the dogs shown there are 'ripped'. It isn't something I like to see, to be honest, as it makes the dog look like a 'fighter', and that's something the breed can do without at the moment. A lean, well muscled dog is a pleasure to behold - you don't nee to strip every last gram of fat off their bodies for them to be fit & healthy.

I agree-they are in whats called by dog fighters as a 'stripped' condition. Its a lot of work to maintain this condition. My dog could never get like that, he just doesn't have the build for it, hes very bulldog type with a roached back.
I think this picture is a good example. You can see his ribs but hes still stocky:



That pictures a bit blurry but you can see the muscle line across his ribs. Now some people would say hes fat because his belly isn't concave-but he doesn't tuck up he tucks in:

This wasn't an excuse to post loads of pictures ,sorry for being so long winded with the point i'm making.

Yes, he looks good to me! I just don't like to see a dog in 'fighting fit' condition when it isn't necessary.

Caryll, I disagree that fighting dogs are "ripped." Take a look at all of the dogs rescued from fighting rings recently in the US. None of them are overly muscled. An overly massive dog would not be able to perform in the pit. They are strong and toned.

Diwrnach, I disagree that modern dogs are being bred small. A large portion of the dogs on this forum are larger than the standard. There are many breeders breeding above the standard these days. The original standard for the breed was 15-18 inches. The current standard is 14-16 inches. The smallest dogs of today's standard are only 1 inch shorter than the smallest dogs of the original standard. I don't think the difference is as much as you are making it out to be.