strike on wednesday

is anybody striking next weekend?

My uni is on strike on Wednesday! We were supposed to be doing presentations on that day as well.

what going to happen?

what are they striking for now. my sister said something about the schools being shut for it

i think everybody is striking on wednesday, boarder people, teacher, fireman, nurses the goverment said it going cost the country half a billion

It's rediculous I have to pay for my pension if I want one but these people have got a good one and they are striking cause they have to pay a bit more in times of hardship and they can retire far more earlier than me who might I add are paying for their pension

Sorry if. Have offended anyone but it gets right in my nerves

i see its the pension. i think it has something to do wth the final salary pension. pete had this a while a go but they never went on strike for it. basicaly a lot of people have been paying the final salary pension which means when they retire they get the salary at the time of retirement. but the governement put so much tax on it that companies cannot afford to offer it any more so are putting the premiums up to keep up with it instead of getting rid of it. sorry but the government are hiking up the tax on just bout everything and its the simple person in the street (aka us) that are paying for it not he companies that are being taxed. take the untilities for instance. the government has put more tax on the gas rigs that companies are putting the prices up on our bills to pay for it. the governemtn know its us that suffer in the end but they want the extra money. well sorry but this probably will offend but if the country is that skint stop giving money away to other countries let them sort out their own mess. if this country has a national debt of billions then where is the money coming from to give away.

Well said Julie

lynne wrote:It's rediculous I have to pay for my pension if I want one but these people have got a good one and they are striking cause they have to pay a bit more in times of hardship and they can retire far more earlier than me who might I add are paying for their pension

Sorry if. Have offended anyone but it gets right in my nerves

Im in this pension Ive just frozen it to buy another property because its pants dont beleive everything you read why should people pay more into the pension to get less out and retirement dates are set the same for everyone.
These people have already taken job cuts on essential services and have to make up for job cuts and give the same service and pay has been frozen for 3 years so not taking into account inflation.
Plus the final insult is job ivaluation were service isnt taken into account and all are put on the minimum pay scale irrelivent of experience and service how much more can be thrown at these people.
Im not able to strike because I work in essential services but have to say I think they have to make a stand somehow

i think some have a good reason but teachers gets good money alot more than most they should be able to save up.. IMO i do think teacher are just being greedy...

I will be striking tomorrow and Ty will be joining me in visiting people on the picket line. They need to sort it out!!!!!

Steve wrote:i think some have a good reason but teachers gets good money alot more than most they should be able to save up.. IMO i do think teacher are just being greedy...

It's called solidarity, Steve. That's what unions are all about - every member helps every other member.

I dont care what its call some of these people who are strike gets good enough wage!!

Steve wrote:I dont care what its call some of these people who are strike gets good enough wage!!

They're not necessarily striking for themselves (and it isn't wages, it's pensions), they are showing support for others. As I said, solidarity. It's the way unions work, and it's what makes them powerful.

I have not had a pay rise for 5 years, therefore I am much worse off than I was 5 years ago. I do not contribute to a pension (cant afford it) I have always worked and always contributed and I am sure there will hardly be any state pension when I get to retire at probally nearly 70. If I went on strike I would be sacked and replaced. I have got no solidarity not in a union. Just work for a very small company but at least I have a job. Is that fair.

Life isn't fair,but we are going through extremely tough times at the moment,going into another recession,I didn't think we had come out the last one.....
Lots of jobs going,companies going under,high unemployment,etc etc.....

I do sympathise with why they are taking industrial action,but at least these people have a job,my son doesn't and his chances of getting employment are extremely slim at the moment.

My daughter had an exam tomorrow and that's now got to be moved,working parents have got to sort out childcare for there children,not to mention the actual damage it's going to do,cuts have to be made,simple as......
We as a country are all paying the price in one way or another.

lynne wrote:I have not had a pay rise for 5 years, therefore I am much worse off than I was 5 years ago. I do not contribute to a pension (cant afford it) I have always worked and always contributed and I am sure there will hardly be any state pension when I get to retire at probally nearly 70. If I went on strike I would be sacked and replaced. I have got no solidarity not in a union. Just work for a very small company but at least I have a job. Is that fair.

No, of course it isn't fair. But if everyone just sits there and says "It's not fair" but doesn't do anything about it (I'm not including you in that, btw, cause you wouldn't be able to do anything about it!) then nothing will get done & we'll go back to the victorian ethos of working for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week with 2 days holiday a year! Someone has to stand up for what they believe in.

my wife on strike tomorrow her retirement age went from 63 to 68 and they want here to pay in 30%of her salery which has been cut by 10% over the last 3 years for the same money she was going to get at 63 without having to pay any money in.
something needs to be done as publ;ic services cant be cut back any further

My uni and my daughters school is striking tomorrow. I completely understand why they're doing it and its only for one day, I'm sure everyone can manage for one day.

my family live on peanut week in and week out but we not having hissy fit about money..... we just have get on with dont buy stuff we dodn't need!!

Steve wrote:I dont care what its call some of these people who are strike gets good enough wage!!

Its irrelivant how much salary you get you pay a percentage of your income into the pension pot this is for your future and now the government want to take another 50% from you. You get no more money work longer years the pensions are on track so the money is building for when you retire. It will be used to pay off the deficit how is that okay.

some of these people are on over 40,000 a year, double what my family get in a year.

lynne wrote:I have not had a pay rise for 5 years, therefore I am much worse off than I was 5 years ago. I do not contribute to a pension (cant afford it) I have always worked and always contributed and I am sure there will hardly be any state pension when I get to retire at probally nearly 70. If I went on strike I would be sacked and replaced. I have got no solidarity not in a union. Just work for a very small company but at least I have a job. Is that fair.

Lynne, anyone can join a union. I used to be in one until I was made redundant, then couldn't afford it any longer, obviously.

gem wrote:

Steve wrote:I dont care what its call some of these people who are strike gets good enough wage!!

Its irrelivant how much salary you get you pay a percentage of your income into the pension pot this is for your future and now the government want to take another 50% from you. You get no more money work longer years the pensions are on track so the money is building for when you retire. It will be used to pay off the deficit how is that okay.

Agreed. Why should Joe public have to pay for government/banker screwups? They should pay the bankers and mp's less and make it up that way - its their mess.

becasue english joe public have run up debt they can not afford.

Bu the recession was caused by the bankers messing up and that's the deficit the government are wanting to cover. So making the public pay more money into pensions that they won't get to cover the deficit is ok? I don't think so.

the recession lasted longer becasue alot of people in the uk can't live within theirs means.

A national health worker has just been on the news, he earns £40,000 a year and at the moment will get a pension of £18,000 plus a lump sum of £58,000 a year.
He has been told that he will now get £14,000 a year plus the £58,000 and to get that he will have to pay in a couple of hundred pounds extra a year and will have to retire a later.

He is going on strike, well excuse me I would gladly take that pension and not strike.

Steve wrote:the recession lasted longer becasue alot of people in the uk can't live within theirs means.

Agree,also run up debts,they can't afford to pay back,banks also have to take responsilbilty down to there poor lending, and obviously the price of fuel is hitting normal working families hard,because when fuel goes up everything goes up.

by lynne on Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:42 pm
A national health worker has just been on the news, he earns £40,000 a year and at the moment will get a pension of £18,000 plus a lump sum of £58,000 a year.
He has been told that he will now get £14,000 a year plus the £58,000 and to get that he will have to pay in a couple of hundred pounds extra a year and will have to retire a later.

He is going on strike, well excuse me I would gladly take that pension and not strike.

So would alot of others!
Some would give anything to be in employment.

Steve wrote:some of these people are on over 40,000 a year, double what my family get in a year.

But they study hard have scary student loans they dont set the president of the salary you cant blame them for the fact that is what they get paid

they need to learn to manager their money better like the rest of us. if i was getting 40,000 a year 10,000 of that would be a in saving account or whatever for my retirement..

lynne wrote:A national health worker has just been on the news, he earns £40,000 a year and at the moment will get a pension of £18,000 plus a lump sum of £58,000 a year.
He has been told that he will now get £14,000 a year plus the £58,000 and to get that he will have to pay in a couple of hundred pounds extra a year and will have to retire a later.

He is going on strike, well excuse me I would gladly take that pension and not strike.

The £58,000 is a death in service lump sum so you got to die before you retire to get it
The £18,000 is the yearly amout of pension in his pot but hes paying every week and will have to pay another half of the amount to now get £14,000 and work more years so the government has said we will steal £4,000 a year you pay us another half of what your already paying oh and work another few years extra Good deal ?

If anybody who get paid £40,000 plus that dont have a good retirement need shootting... i would support anybody who on £20,000 or less a year... it's struggle but i cant support anybody who on £40,000 plus a year dont matter how much study they did becasue they should been clever enough to put atleast £10,000 away each year.

Steve wrote:becasue english joe public have run up debt they can not afford.

No, the government ran up debts it couldn't afford!

Steve wrote:the recession lasted longer becasue alot of people in the uk can't live within theirs means.

That has nothing whatsoever to do with the recession. The recession was caused by poor banking practice & bad government.

Steve wrote:If anybody who get paid £40,000 plus that dont have a good retirement need shootting... i would support anybody who on £20,000 or less a year... it's struggle but i cant support anybody who on £40,000 plus a year dont matter how much study they did becasue they should been clever enough to put atleast £10,000 away each year.

They have put away in there pension pot its a saving plan for there future and you only get out what you have paid in it dont matter what you have saved extra its still stealing by the government its nowt to do with them its money thats already had tax and national insurance deducted from it

Caryll wrote:

Steve wrote:becasue english joe public have run up debt they can not afford.

No, the government ran up debts it couldn't afford!

Steve wrote:the recession lasted longer becasue alot of people in the uk can't live within theirs means.

That has nothing whatsoever to do with the recession. The recession was caused by poor banking practice & bad government.

If you watched news night the the other month the money bloke was on it and stat if joe public didn't have 3/4 cards max up the recession wouldn't of last this long becasue the bank would be able to lead money to people

gem wrote:

Steve wrote:If anybody who get paid £40,000 plus that dont have a good retirement need shootting... i would support anybody who on £20,000 or less a year... it's struggle but i cant support anybody who on £40,000 plus a year dont matter how much study they did becasue they should been clever enough to put atleast £10,000 away each year.

They have put away in there pension pot its a saving plan for there future and you only get out what you have paid in it dont matter what you have saved extra its still stealing by the government its nowt to do with them its money thats already had tax and national insurance deducted from it

you still not going get me caring for people who earning £40,000 sorry

Steve wrote:

gem wrote:

Steve wrote:If anybody who get paid £40,000 plus that dont have a good retirement need shootting... i would support anybody who on £20,000 or less a year... it's struggle but i cant support anybody who on £40,000 plus a year dont matter how much study they did becasue they should been clever enough to put atleast £10,000 away each year.

They have put away in there pension pot its a saving plan for there future and you only get out what you have paid in it dont matter what you have saved extra its still stealing by the government its nowt to do with them its money thats already had tax and national insurance deducted from it

you still not going get me caring for people who earning £40,000 sorry

tried my best

Steve wrote:you still not going get me caring for people who earning £40,000 sorry

Ah, well, we tried!

sorry people should live within their means, I get me mad if i want something i have to go without other things. when children support that was stop to families who earn £40,000 and there was mums on tv moaning about i was shutting at the TV

Benefits and imigration. Control those and voila!

Steve wrote:sorry people should live within their means, I get me mad if i want something i have to go without other things. when children support that was stop to families who earn £40,000 and there was mums on tv moaning about i was shutting at the TV

The trouble is, Steve, I think you're missing the point. The government want these workers to pay more in to get less out. It isn't a matter of not being able to afford the extra, it's the fact that they will be getting less when they retire even though they are having to pay more. Plus, of course, they don't get the state pension, which they are also contributing towards in the N.I.

Never mind. The strike will go ahead, and there's nothing anyone on this forum can do about it.

i know what they striking for, i just think when you earning big you should be saving alot so you dont really need to rely on the state its just top up of what you have saved.

You can't save a lot with mortgage! Wish I could!

Yoiu can save alot if you getting £40,000 plus a year mrs janey

if i was getting 40,000 a year i would be able to save £10,000 a year and that over 50/60 years is an nice pot of money for your retirement!

Steve wrote:i know what they striking for, i just think when you earning big you should be saving alot so you dont really need to rely on the state its just top up of what you have saved.

janey wrote:You can't save a lot with mortgage! Wish I could!

Steve wrote:Yoiu can save alot if you getting £40,000 plus a year mrs janey

Steve, the price of houses & the cost of mortgages is astronomical. For a lot of people (yes, even those on £40k) the mortgage payments take up most of their available income. They've been paying in to the pension for a long time and now they're told that they will have to pay more & get less. It just isn't right.

Caryll wrote:

Steve wrote:i know what they striking for, i just think when you earning big you should be saving alot so you dont really need to rely on the state its just top up of what you have saved.

janey wrote:You can't save a lot with mortgage! Wish I could!

Steve wrote:Yoiu can save alot if you getting £40,000 plus a year mrs janey

Steve, the price of houses & the cost of mortgages is astronomical. For a lot of people (yes, even those on £40k) the mortgage payments take up most of their available income. They've been paying in to the pension for a long time and now they're told that they will have to pay more & get less. It just isn't right.

if you cant afford your mortgages on £40,000 a year then you should sell up and get a house you can well afford.

Steve wrote:if i was getting 40,000 a year i would be able to save £10,000 a year and that over 50/60 years is an nice pot of money for your retirement!

Lol, no you wouldn't believe you me! And I also earn under £20,000. I haven't a pot to pi*s in! No retirement fund nothing.

Thats a little bit of a dream land your living in there. Sorry.

i'm NOT dream land at all......

if you cant save a good amount on £40,000 a year you clearly had it to good in life!!! and you need to get in the real world!