I Need Poppy Toilet Trained By Next Week

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So Me And The Mrs Have Had A Massive Fight About Poppy Again And She's Sick Of Smelling ****, Bare In Mind Poppy Is Still Quite Young (12 Weeks) She Doesn't Seem To Realize That She Is Still A Baby.

She Keeps Throwing The Same Line At Me Over And Over "She's Your F#@king Dog" Although She Brought Her Back One Day Without Me Realizing And Now I Love Her More Then Anything Lol.

Poppy Is A Staffy Cross German Shepard And A Stubborn Nippy Little Bugger But Can't Help Loving Her Lol :')

The Mrs Says I Have Until Next Thursday And If She's Not Fully Toilet Trained Then She Has To Go, I've Explained How I Really Want To Keep Her But Nothing Gets Threw To This Women! Haha

Anyways People, I Need All The Advice I Can Get Please, I Don't Wanna Have To Get Rid Of Her

Thanks For Taking The Time To Read This <33

A bit of a heads up, my Flo is 8 (ish) and has demolished one by one all of our sofa cushions. It's not done to be naughty she just likes to reposition them.. Lots of times and then claim them as a bed ON the sofa  

Thing is the OH made the covers and gets slightly annoyed with me cos I leave the cushions down at night.. I'm forgetful ! Can't really be cross with Flo as it is my fault (don't tell the OH I said that) and it does keep the OH busy making new ones   

As for your OH, she really does need to understand that Poppy is still a baby and babies grow and learn, it just takes time. Even as adult dogs they all get in to mischief from time to time but that's one of the reasons we love this breed.

Oh, and it seemed you were doing so well with Poppy.  Your OH must realize that the pup is finding new things everyday and this in itself is an adventure.  Meg chewed a couple of shoes when we first got her, and my OH reacted in the same way.  I told her that she must take some of the blame for leaving them in the kitchen in the first place.  I showed Meg the chewed shoe and said 'NO' very firmly, and did the same the second time she did it.  I also made her go to a 'naughty place' and made her stay there for a while (it was easier to ignore her-and they hate that!).  It seemed to work for me or I may have been lucky, she has never offered to chew anything else since, shoes or furniture.  It's about making firm boundaries as, being a pup, they will push the boundaries, mate

I'm really concerned about the situation your in , I hope you don't think I'm being too pushy but have a read of this , I hope it helps.    Toilet training your puppy should be quite a simple process, as long as you take the time and trouble to get into a good routine.

Initially, you will have to build your routine around your puppy's needs, and these are reliably predictable when they are very young. Puppies need to urinate immediately after waking up, so you need to be there to take your puppy straight into the garden without any delay.

Eating its meal stimulates its digestive system, and puppies normally urinate within fifteen minutes of eating, and defecate within half an hour of eating (although this might vary slightly with each individual).

Puppies have very poor bladder control, and need to urinate at least every hour or two. They can urinate spontaneously when they get excited, so take your puppy out frequently if it has been active, playing or exploring.

You may find it useful to keep a record of when your puppy eats sleeps, urinates and defecates. A simple diary list will do. Repeat cue words like 'wee wees' and 'poo poos' or 'be busy' and 'be clean' while the puppy is actually urinating or defecating. Use different words for each action so that you will be able to prompt the puppy later on.

Always go with your puppy into the garden so you are there to reward and attach the cue words to the successful actions! Fortunately, puppies are creatures of habit, so as long as you introduce the garden to your puppy as its toilet area early on, you should be able to avoid most of the common pitfalls.
How to toilet train your puppy: common errors
Unfortunately there are many reasons why 'toilet training' might not go as smoothly as it could, so make sure you do not make any of the following mistakes:
Over-feeding.
Feeding an unsuitable diet or giving a variety of foods.
Not feeding at regular times.
Feeding at the wrong times (which could cause overnight defecation).
Punishing the puppy for its indoor accidents (which can make it scared of toileting in front of you - even outside).
Feeding salty foods (e.g. stock from cubes) which makes them drink more.
Using ammonia based cleaning compounds (which smell similar to urine).
Expecting the puppy to tell you when it needs to go out; this is unrealistic, so it is better to take them out at regular intervals.
Leaving the back door open for the puppy to come and go as it pleases (a puppy will think that the garden is an adventure playground, rather than a toilet area. Also, what is a puppy meant to do when the weather gets cold, and it is faced with a closed back door?).
Leaving the puppy on its own too long, so that it is forced to go indoors (which sets a bad precedent, or even a habit of going indoors).
Mistakenly associating the words 'good girl' or 'good boy' when they toilet, as opposed to the specific cue words. Guess what could happen the next time you praise your dog?
Access to rugs or carpet (which are nice and absorbent - just like grass).
Laziness on your part, resulting in more wees indoors than outdoors.
Leaving the puppy alone in the garden, so you are not there to reward it for going outdoors… how is it meant to learn that it is more popular and advantageous going outdoors, if you are not there to show your approval?
Submissive or excited urination on greeting (if this occurs, take your puppy outside before you greet it and tone down your greeting so it is less exciting or overwhelming).
It is unfair to expect your puppy to go right through the night when it is very young.
Sleeping the puppy in a crate or puppy pen can help with house training but you should let it out in the garden to relieve itself during the night.
How to teach your puppy to toilet out on a walk
Many owners appear disappointed that their young puppy will not toilet when out on a walk, yet relieves itself the second it gets back home. This is because the puppy has been taught to toilet only at home (hopefully in its garden), and being creatures of habit, they often wait until they have returned home before evacuating their bladder and/ or bowels.

To break this habit, you will have to get up very early one morning (when you have plenty of time), and get your puppy out on a walk before it has had its morning wee. You should not bring it home until it has been forced to go out of desperation. If however, you are unsuccessful, and your puppy has not toileted, then take it immediately into the garden on your return, or you risk it relieving itself indoors. Need more help? Follow these additional puppy training tips (e.g. socialisation techniques to prevent behavioural problems) or visit the Puppy Socialisation Plan website.
- See more at: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/getting-a-dog-or-puppy/general-advice-about-caring-for-your-new-puppy-or-dog/toilet-training-for-puppies/#sthash.00g606PA.dpuf

Hi mate toilet training is difficult but in my eyes the more mistakes she makes the quicker the process will be as when u tell her no she will associate it with the toilet. I made the mistake of paper training my pup in a flat and telling him gud boy wen he went on the paper so my process is taking longer I use a spray I got from pets at home mate odour remover but touch wood he hasn't had an accident now for bout a month which is right about the time I took his paper away a month ago I would never do it again but that's only because I always have him in the corner of eye BODY LANGUAGE is the key iv found but im still learning aswell lol keep it up my friend be consistant and hopefully ull have happy years to come with poppy and as for the mrs bro haha dogs r less headache ;-) sorry ladies  

We used the pads as well what a big mistake that was    Once we stop things went a lot better.

Lula will chew anything if she is not watched. I caught her in the back garden with a loo roll the other day. I had to go round picking up loads of paper.

quick update I jinxed myself he just peed on my carpet lol!   

All I can say is make sure Poppy has toys of her own to chew and destroy. Ledger has had a few accidents nesting on the duvet on the spare bed if he manages to pop the cover open and spots that hes also managed to make a hole in the big white stuffing bag well you can guess the rest. He hasn't done it to be destructive he just think its a giant charity shop teddy (I buy him them to de-stuff and he doesn't touch my stuff). I bought him a 3ft teddy (just check they don't have those bean stuffing things) about 6 months ago and it is being destuffed slowly a limb at a time but gives him his kill the teddy fix.

SHE'S A PUPPY! For god sake! All I'll say is, I'd imagine that this is going to be ongoing throughout your dogs life.. They're not robots and they go through all sorts of phases, in my experience when they reach about 3 they start to calm a little, but even at 5 Bug still occasionally toilets in the house and destroys things that she shouldn't.

Your girlfriend doesn't sound like she has the patience to be a dog owner, and if you're planning to stay with her I'd rehome Poppy whilst she's still young and will actually be appealing to rehome. Otherwise, ditch the girlfriend and keep Poppy but you need to be aware as well how much work a dog is, and also consider if you would be able to look after her sufficiently on your own. Your girlfriend needs to wake up though, so irresponsible.

Mate, your girlfriend sounds like a real keeper. You need to make a decision quick smart for the sake of the dog, the quicker Poppy is rehomed into a loving welcoming forever home by mature owners who understand the needs & wants & there little accidents that puppies sometimes do the better. You two need to grow up.

Believe Me I've Done Everything I Can Do, Poppys Not Been Using The Toilet In The House And Yet She Still Wants Her Gone And I'm Heartbroken.

If I did Show The Mrs All Of This She Would Only Hold It Against Me Like She Does Everything Else ¬_¬

aww mate .. really ! when we take on an animal they depend on us completely .. sorry but she sounds like a bloody awful person and its up you what you do but if poppy has to re-homed make sure she will be 110% loved safe and secure another bad home could be the start of a problem dog   

Sounds like she is searching for excuses and always will, ball is in your court now if as you say the Mrs is holding 'everything' against you then you have to decide if that's a situation you can continue to live with

I know what decision I'd make

I Would But If I Did Take Poppys Side I'd Be Homeless Because My Parents Won't Take A Dog In :/ So Ethier Way I'm Screwed, I'm Close To Tears, I Hate How She Doesn't Realize That The Dog Means More Then Alot To Me.

Perhaps some communication between you both before you decided to get Poppy. Sometimes they take attention off someone who craves it. Please do the right thing for Poppy as she didnt ask to be put in this situation.

Such a shame as you've come a long way with Poppy. If you do have to let Poppy go, please make sure she goes to a safe and loving home. I'm sure you will anyway.

Sounds a bit like those couples that have a kid thinking it'll paper over the cracks and it just ends up revealing more!

You two really need to talk!

My heart breaks for Poppy she needs stability in a happy home as she will massively be picking up on the tension in the house and that will not in any way be helping her behaviour. My boy obviously used to be in a shouty house at some point, when my neighbours argue he clings to the farthest wall shaking like a leaf it's soul destroying to see.

I'm sorry but I'm reading this and all I can think is you both got the puppy without really researching it and now it's the dog that's going to suffer. Reading your replies all I am seeing is the same thing written in a different way I.e your going to give up the puppy. It was irresponsible to get a dog when you both knew nothing about them and the effort and hard work involved. Now you know, and I really do think in this case your pup should be given back to the breeder or to a rescue centre now before she gets too old and nobody wants her because then she will end up at the back of a very long queue of unwanted dogs given up because people just don't think before they get a dog.

That poor puppy she doesn't deserve any of this and trust me they know when they are not wanted.

Poppy is the innocent in this do you think its fair on her? Do the right thing mate. Find the loving home for her she deserves. If not yours well make sure its best for her and not just anybody.

I think the best thing would be to rehome poppy. Sadly you are not in a situation where you can side with poppy who is the real victim in these. As many have already said its a lot easier to rehome a 12 week old pup than a 6 month old one.
I do think you and your GF need to sit down and have a long talk about it. So you are never in a situation like these again.

Debs01 wrote:I'm sorry but I'm reading this and all I can think is you both got the puppy without really researching it and now it's the dog that's going to suffer. Reading your replies all I am seeing is the same thing written in a different way I.e your going to give up the puppy. It was irresponsible to get a dog when you both knew nothing about them and the effort and hard work involved. Now you know, and I really do think in this case your pup should be given back to the breeder or to a rescue centre now before she gets too old and nobody wants her because then she will end up at the back of a very long queue of unwanted dogs given up because people just don't think before they get a dog.

That poor puppy she doesn't deserve any of this and trust me they know when they are not wanted.

+1 here, I'm afraid. I did quite a bit of research and had family 'meetings' before we decided to have Meg come live with us. It's a big commitment for more than 10 years. They are completely dependent on you and it's your obligation to make sure that they are nurtured in a loving environment. The breed has a bad rep as it is, but if trained and loved in the right way, you will have a dependable companion for it's natural life.

Grow a pair, sit down with your OH and find out EXACTLY what issues she has after all SHE was the one who brought the pup home in the first place. I suspect she is jealous of how you have taken to the pup. If you can't come to an accord, you,re best rehoming the pup before too much longer.

I can't get my head around this thread , I've point my views across a couple of days ago. It's generated so much passion between members all in agreement , you should of done your research on a puppies needs before bringing one home on a whim . If you do re home and I think that would be for the best please make sure it's to a great home and while she's still young . Don't be tempted to put on web sites such as "gum tree" free to a good home because she will be in grave danger of falling into even worse hands. Get a gold fish , mind you your missis will probably rehome that too because it doesn't blink. Sorry this thread has got my back up

If you do re home and I think that would be for the best please make sure it's to a great home and while she's still young . Don't be tempted to put on web sites such as "gum tree" free to a good home because she will be in grave danger of falling into even worse hands.

James beat me to it, what he says above is very important.

I've Read AlL What's Been Said And I've Took Everyones Help In And Done Everything I Can, But I've Refused To Give Up The Dog. So Once Again She's Not Going Anywhere   

But If She Was Going I Would of Made Sure She Went To Someone I know Very Well First.

I always Put Poppy First Tbh And Make Sure She's Happy

Fair play to you dogs are IMHO like children! Know one would have a child and get rid of it because it cries to much so why think its acceptable for a defenceless dog!! Even if it is to a responsible home.

Not meaning to sound rude.. But you said that last time. Rather than going back and forth and threats being made every time you and your girlfriend have a tiff, why not sit down like adults and have a serious discussion about the little 10+ year commitment that you have decided to take into your lives. The tension, frustration and anger that little pup must be witnessing sounds horrendous, this is such an important time for her in regards to positive experience and socialisation and it doesn't sound like she's getting any consistency.

I personally don't think that either of you are ready for a dog, all of this tit for tat is very immature, and I really feel that Poppy needs to be somewhere stable and permanent ASAP, and we will be saying the same thing next week when she wants to "get rid" of her for mouthing, or running around too much, or maybe even breathing?!

Rachels right you cant keep changing your mind, you have to commit to this dogs life to make it as secure and content as possible, if you cant you shouldn't keep her ..I have my first dog she is now 15 weeks and some days its been manic but id never give up on anything we encounter as that's the commitment i undertook when i welcomed her into my family . I know it wasn't you that went out and got the dog but it is yr responsibility now..do whats best for the puppy not you or your incredibly immature selfish partner..

Rachel33 wrote:Not meaning to sound rude.. But you said that last time. Rather than going back and forth and threats being made every time you and your girlfriend have a tiff, why not sit down like adults and have a serious discussion about the little 10+ year commitment that you have decided to take into your lives. The tension, frustration and anger that little pup must be witnessing sounds horrendous, this is such an important time for her in regards to positive experience and socialisation and it doesn't sound like she's getting any consistency.

I personally don't think that either of you are ready for a dog, all of this tit for tat is very immature, and I really feel that Poppy needs to be somewhere stable and permanent ASAP, and we will be saying the same thing next week when she wants to "get rid" of her for mouthing, or running around too much, or maybe even breathing?!

Well said Rach, I couldn't of said it better myself , a round of applause to u.   

Rachel33 wrote:Not meaning to sound rude.. But you said that last time. Rather than going back and forth and threats being made every time you and your girlfriend have a tiff, why not sit down like adults and have a serious discussion about the little 10+ year commitment that you have decided to take into your lives. The tension, frustration and anger that little pup must be witnessing sounds horrendous, this is such an important time for her in regards to positive experience and socialisation and it doesn't sound like she's getting any consistency.

I personally don't think that either of you are ready for a dog, all of this tit for tat is very immature, and I really feel that Poppy needs to be somewhere stable and permanent ASAP, and we will be saying the same thing next week when she wants to "get rid" of her for mouthing, or running around too much, or maybe even breathing?!

Agree!

I'm really getting annoyed with this thread and your attitude. Every time you have an argument with this girlfriends of yours the dog goes I don't know hat kind of sick relationship is this or why do you stay ( free rent?) but that's not a safe place for poppy for the next 12-13 years by not giving her to a proper loving home you are just holding her hostage in a situation caused by no fault of her own : she is toilet trained by now which was the original problem/ thread for god sake . so just grow up and do the right thing it's not all about you.

Lily     

Any news Dan ?

It seems as though you really love Poppy, but I don't know what's best for your pup at the moment as they pick up on the mood of the home. I think it's time you had a good think about what's best for Poppy, as said above she's still very young and the chewing, toilet training and generally being a little naughty will be ongoing, that's just part of having a pup. I'm so angry with your girlfriend she should have researched the breed before buying her