Who shows ?

Does any one on here show there staffs,iv been thinking about having a go just as a bit of fun,and also i think it will be good to socialise my pup (allthough i realise the dog has to be 6months old to enter a show)

personally i think showing your dog professionally takes up a lot of time and money its a full time job. i would show katie in local dog shows around my hometown but these are just amateur events. i wouldnt be to confident to go on the professional circuit i hear its a cut throat business.

Im just wanting to try it and see what its all about,i read in another thread that blues dont do that well in shows is this the same at all shows does it depend on certin judges ?

i don't know that now, cant see why, the blue staffy has been around for a long time and is a colour that is recognised by the kennel club. could be certain judges dont like the colour

It was mentioned in another thread,suposidley they get marked down for not having realy dark eyes and noses,i think ill look into it.

ah their still cracking looking dogs the blues, very expensive over here in Ireland, nearly double the price as normal coloured staffys. its a shame these unscrupulous breeders are charging premium price for blues.

Just looked at the kc breed standard and it says about eyes 'dark preferred but may bear some relation to coat colour' so i think it must be up to the judges dicretion.

I managed to get dave for a reasonable price but i was willing to pay alot more,i have seen blues with not half as good lines as dave for nealy £1000

yeah the same over here they go for 1000euro, thats about 870 sterling.

I used to show Bandit & I now show Dempsey. When I showed Bandit there weren'e any blues, so I can't answer whether there's any prejudice about the colour. Mind you, I've yet to see a top winner in blues, so maybe.......

I stopped showing Bandit because I didn't like the attitude of so many of the people who were at the shows. It was very clique-y, and you were totally ignored (or even worse, criticised behind your back) if you weren't part of this group or that group. Bullies aren't quite so bad - at speciality shows people will actually talk to you & make you welcome) but at all breed shows you still get the same old crap about people 'having to walk the gauntlet' past staffords & bullies! What's stopping them going the other way, for god's sake?

*sigh* I'm showing Dempsey till he's 2 years old (next April) but I doubt I'll continue after that.

Iv got my auntie coming up tonight,she used to show dogs so hopefully i can get a bit insight into how it works,like iv said before he is a pet first and the showing is just for fun if i think its getting bitchy or dave doesnt like it then ill stop at the drop of a hat.

I don't show, but I do compete in agility...muh more fun! lol

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*nikki* wrote:I don't show, but I do compete in agility...muh more fun! lol

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Not when you've got a dog that thinks a command is something he gives you!

Never really thought about agility,how old do they have to be to start ?

I think ill youtube it and see what its all about.

Double_G wrote:Never really thought about agility,how old do they have to be to start ?

I think ill youtube it and see what its all about.

You can do the basics, contact work and get them going between the jumps at about 8 months or so - I started with Rocco at 15 months or so...

Deano will be starting the basics when he is 6 months at my club and will start competing next year once he turns a year - i'll be competing with rocco anyway, so the practise will do deano good in the environment.

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Do you no if there are any clubs in or near newcastle nikki ?

And what do you mean by contact work ?

The thing with blues is that ( this is not a diss on anyones blue staffords its not all blues just some blues ) they are quite often bred for colour and nothing else, which is why alot of blues dont conform to the standard. Blues also have diluted pigmentation ie. light coloured nails, eyes & nose. The standard says eyes & nose should be black (or as close as poss) so this would also be clased as a fault. Saying all that though........if the blue fitted the standard physically better than the other dogs im sure most judges would over look the pigmentation issues. It really depends on the juges and the competition lol. Give it a go if u wanna, you've got nothing to lose!!

It really depends on how seriously you're going to take showing. If you just want a day out, meeting other staff people and socialising your dog, go for it.

If you're going to take it seriously, be prepared for knockdowns & bitchiness (excuse the pun!), especially if you win anything. As a newbie to shows you'll be the outsider & although a lot of stafford folk are pretty friendly & will offer advice etc, some are just plain mean! (I mean the show folk, of course!)

Cheers blaze and caryll,i think im going to give it a go and see what happens at the least ill get to meet a few people and learn a bit

The first couple of shows try to enter Stafforshire Bull Terrier show - no other breeds. You'll get a better idea of what's going on & you'll get more advice. You'll be in Minor Puppy Class if they have one I should think (6-9 months old) so you'll be first in the ring. Once your turn's over, stick around & see if you can have a chat to some the seasoned campaigners! They can give you lots of hints & advice.

Thanks again caryll,im going to try and get intouce with the north east staff club and see if i can go down for a chat and what not,maybe take dave down

Get to know as many people as poss before the first show - it'll help calm your nerves!

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gem wrote: hello im new onto the forum I dont show now but used to , blue is a diluted colour of black its not really rare judges dont choose a dog on colour they choose on conformation how the dog is made up.

Hi, welcome to the forum! Why not introduce yourself properly so we can all get to know you?

As to the judging of colours, I wish what you've said were true. Unfortunately, some judges DO judge as to their own preferences, ie colour, size etc. I know of a lot of judges that wouldn't put up a blue if it was the only decent dog in the class!! Yes, it's wrong, but................

I show my dogs and it doesnt take up alot of time. I would go to a meeting every other wednesday and the day the show.I enjoy showing mine and i have done showing for the last 2 years

They are getting a lot better now, but a lot of judges still don't like them. In an ideal world the judge will put up a dog on type & soundness first & colour second, but in practise this doesn't always happen. It isn't just blues, either, whites aren't very fashionable at the moment, the main winners seem to be dark brindle or black, with a few reds.

At the last championship show i was at 2 blue dogs done very well in the ring. There was a pure blue and a Blue and white patch dog, both won their classes with very strong other dogs against them.

Hollie C wrote:I show my dogs and it doesnt take up alot of time. I would go to a meeting every other wednesday and the day the show.I enjoy showing mine and i have done showing for the last 2 years

i take it then you dont show your dogs on the pro circuit then, your just into the amateur side of the game, the pro side takes up a lot of time and money.

Entry fees are getting higher all the time. Open shows aren't as bad - around £5 or £6 for the first entry, but the championship shows are terrible, normally in excess of £20 for the first entry, plus car parking & petrol. Then you have to get something to eat & drink, it all mounts up. I tend to stick with the single breed shows rather than the all breed ones. At least you get a judge who knows your breed that way!

Yea i think ur right i think that if a blues conformation is better than another dogs then they will triumph but the point is u dont see many standard nice looking blues as they are mostly bred for colour x

Hollie C wrote:At the last championship show i was at 2 blue dogs done very well in the ring. There was a pure blue and a Blue and white patch dog, both won their classes with very strong other dogs against them.

Then that was a decent judge. The point I'm making is that not all judges are like that. Especially at the smaller shows where you may not get a specialist staff judge, he probably won't even know that blue is allowed, let alone put it up!

Well iv been to 2 championship shows this years and last years. Cant remember last years entry price but this years was about 35 pounds for one dog and parking!

lol

blaze666 wrote:

gem wrote:you will have to excuse me as ive just joined up, I think when a judge has a line of dogs all at the standard then he will choose his colour and height preference but if honestly judging conformation before colour always. I do agree with you though. To be honest when i was on the show scene i didnt see any nice blues out there

Yea i think ur right i think that if a blues conformation is better than another dogs then they will triumph but the point is u dont see many standard nice looking blues as they are mostly bred for colour x

ha just wait iv got a blue champ in the making lol

totaly agree that 1000 is rediculise to pay for a dog just for couler i payed 3quarter that price for the fact of the temp of his mam and dad plus both parents doing well in the show ring and some good champs in his blood.

a picture of memphises dad(this pic has gettin some coverage on here lol)

Lovely dog!

I think bigwazza u obviously bought well and blue wasnt just the criteria u were looking for in a dog. Memphis has been well bred and not just bred for his colour. So many people unfortunatley are just fixated on wanting a blue stafford and couldnt care less about anything else!

blaze666 wrote:I think bigwazza u obviously bought well and blue wasnt just the criteria u were looking for in a dog. Memphis has been well bred and not just bred for his colour. So many people unfortunatley are just fixated on wanting a blue stafford and couldnt care less about anything else!

very true when i started looking it was for a red or a tri not a blue and i was preperad to pay the same price as i did
but when his litter came along i was just so impressed with his mam and dad and there peds i knew he was the one for me

if you intend to show your dog heres a few faults you should be aware of light eyes or pink rims are to be faulted, except in a dog whose coat surrounding the eye is white, in that case the the eye rims maybe pink. tail too long or badly curled. non conformation of height and weight. full drop or prick ears. under shot over shot mouths is a serious fault. their nose should be black, a Dudley nose which is entirely pink brown or flesh coloured, appears in some fawns, reds and liver coloured brindle's, is a permanent fault, but should not be confused with the butterfly nose,commonly found on piebald dogs or those with considerable white markings around the muzzle area. should this be seen in pups there is a fair chance that the nostrils will finish all black before its fully grown. however, if it is seen on an adult, it is contrary to the black nose rule and is therefore considered a serious a fault

Hmm thats very good information there thank you! knew about some of that from experience in the meetings! Went to the n.i.s.b.t open show today and came away with a reserve best dog, which was very good as he beat an irish champion,although the dog was named the best winning dog in the UK at the moment!

Well done! Great result!

well done sounds like your having a great time =D>

Yes it was very good although i entered him into the novice group by mistake and he is far to qualified for it so had to put him in with the older dogs, he looked so young standing beside them!

Well although the dogs looked older yours obviously has something special so you shud be well pleased. Some dogs mature early and some later how old is your dog now ?

Mines is 19 months old now, yes everyone has said to me he is a very good dog

=D> glad for you both well done

Thank you hopefully more winning to be done from him!

Hollie C wrote:Thank you hopefully more winning to be done from him!

you must post a few pics of AL he looks like a fine boy in his avatar pic,he only looks about 8 months or younger in the avatar pic, he must be well after filling on by now to fine chunky fella.

oh yes that picture was took at about 16-17 weeks! il try and post a more recent one of him!

look forward to seeing them

Me 2 x