Any advice please - Stressful Staffy

Hi I'm new to the sight and I'm hoping for some words of advice or if anyone else has had this problem with there Staffy?
Diesel is my 9 year old staff that I have had since he was 8weeks old, has always been a very hyper, chewy,distrustful dog whilst going up, always happy and wanting to play all the time. But he has also been a dog that that easily gets frightened of things , the buzzing of a fly, loud bangs, fireworks, any sort of noises that are unusual as well. The pain problem we have is that if we go out for an hour and there is a noise he doesn't like it frightens him and then he literally tries to chew his way out of the back door. Last week he knocked an ornament of the window ledge while we was out and smashed it, panicking he chewed the back door that much he broke his canine teeth, had a very sore mouth and vomited wood and plaster. He has done things like this on and off most of his life and there has always been something that has frightened him causing it. I never tell him off as I don't agree with punishing a dog especially for something like that, what frightens me is that when I get home he is in such a state he has a heart attack as he is so stressed. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated as I am extremely worried he hurts himself. Many Thanks in advance

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Hi from me & Katy Wow what a nervous dog you have there!! Not got any experience with that other than to say has he got somewhere in the house that he feels safe in ie crate or bed that he can go to? Some people use thundershirts to help keep their dogs calm or maybe try adaptil plug ins. I don't know if either works but someone will be along with more experience soon

Hi, he his full run of the house even when we are out, his favourite place being our bed under the duvet lol. We have tried a cage when he was younger all he did was try and try to get out and my concern was he hurt himself doing so, I have tried the Adaptor but that didn't seem to have any affects but I havnt tried a thunder shirt yet The thing is he can be frightened of something one day eg he was frightened of the wind down the chimney for months, now he doesn't even bother, last week it was the washer spinning which never bothered him before, it only lasted a day then he was fine with it. It's like a switch with him, one minute he's frightened of something then he's not. I did dog Psychology years ago but with him I just don't know what goes on in his head lol. Any advice is much appreciated.x

Hi ya, welcome to the forum from Flo & me.

This is a very strange thing, to be scared one day and not the next is most odd. I would think about where his safest place is and provide him with a cosy cave type environment there, something like a crate but with the door always open, a nice comfy bed & with something to chew on with a cover over the top to make it "cave" like.

Hi and welcome from me and Misty. He does sound ike a scared little thing. Congratulations on not telling him off as a lot of people would punish this type of behaviour even though it's not his fault.

I'm sure people will be along soon with some good advice and help

ah bless his heart id seek advice from a vet perhaps they can suggest a good behaviourist and perhaps a massage may help to relax him more hope someone comes along with better suggestions

Hi there, sorry I didn't spot this earlier but was eventually nudged in the right direction.

One of our current dogs, Millie, is nervous by nature (as opposed to nurture) and we previously had Bobbert who had some terrible fears - we had to replace a couple of Bobbert chewed doors so I can relate to what you're going through. I also used to be a horse behaviour trainer, dealing mainly with fears.

What you're describing does sound to unusual and I can completely see how hard it must be to live with. I can't promise I can help but I'll give it a go, based on what I'm understanding and some assumptions. Say if I'm wrong.

There are definitely animals who are born nervous and are more reactive, and it may well be that Diesel is one of those. It sounds, though, that there is another element, a physical one, that means he is generally more tense and stressed. Just as fear can cause physical tension, physical tension, pain and illness can make an animal more reactive. I've seen it time and time again with horses, and Bobbert's reactivity also had an element of the physical to it.

The first thing I'd look at, if you haven't already, is diet. Dogs can have allergies and intolerances to the weirdest and most wonderful of things. Again using Bobbert as an example, he was allergic to duck, maize, yeast, various grasses, cotton... 18 full positives and a heap of borderlines. Grain in dog food can cause some dogs to be hyperactive, stressty and reactive, as can sugars. What is Diesel on at the moment? Have you looked at a radical change in diet?

The other thing I'd check is his hearing. Your list of triggers seems to be very sound focussed. If this is the case, it may be that there is an issue with his hearing that makes certain sounds or volumes uncomfortable.

Before doing anything I'd want to rule these two things out. Behavioural work is very often like playing detective, sifting through possibilities and theories until you find something that gives you a positive lead which you can then follow up. It's important to try not to change too much at once, ideally only one thing at a time, otherwise you don't know what gave you what result.

In the meantime, I'd look to see if I could create a minimal damage area where you can leave him when you need to go out. Not a crate, that is too small and trapping, but somewhere bigger that you can Diesel proof as much as possible. Maybe the laundry room, a bathroom, the kitchen, with modifications to provide snug, safe areas and to protect things that might get chewed. No, it won't stop him eating doors but maybe get an old door for that area, and leave him with things he can chew on - Bobbert always went for furniture legs so maybe an old chair from the charity shop or something.

I personally wouldn't leave a thunder shirt on a super stressed dog when unattended. I have visions of him trying to chew at the neck and getting his bottom jaw stuck or something. I think they can help as part of a broader programme and I think they are more effective for less stressed animals. In effect, the adrenalin that causes these flight/panic reactions overrides just about anything else, including pain and many sedatives, and when it hits a certain point there is really very little that will help. It's all about trying to work out how to help Diesel not hit that point.

Have you done any structured desensitisation and, if so, what? If not, it's something else we can look at later.

Does that so far sound on the right track?

(ps, I'm moving this to the Training and Behaviour section. The Self Help and Support area is more for human problems, which is why I didn't pick this up before)

Hi Lizp, thank you so much for your reply. It's really hard where to start really, he has done so much in his 9 years. He has and is always a very happy dog always wagging his tail and wanting to play even when he has been poorly from time to time. When he was younger he was always a chewy, destructive dog, from shoes,the Xmas tree, carpets you name it he chewed it, everything had to be moved out of his way.But as he got older he started to be much less destructive, but he has always been aware of certain noises, the sound of a fly buzzing or if you mimic that noise he doesn't like it he Cry's then hides behind the chair shaking, if you remove the fly and tell him it's gone he's fine again, he's the same with other funny sounds and doesn't like you humming or singing, he also hides if my husband talks to my parakeet.if someone rings us he runs round the house with a toy in his mouth crying and then eats all his dog biscuits .But the biggest problem is when we leave him, this is when if something frightens him he tries to chew his way out the back door and that door only. On the number of occasions he has done it I have always tried to find out the reason why he has done it, these have ranged from a car back firing (the neighbours told me), he's knocked something off the window ledge, a skip being delivered across the road etc...when we return ( he is never left mor than 3 hours) on these occasions he is panting heavily, mouth bleeding from chewing and totally in a state, once we have been home 10 mins he starts to calm down and goes to sleep with total exhaustion. We don't have an area in house where we could leave him , but we have also noticed if we close any of the internal doors while we are out he will chew them to try and get them open. He has always been on a grain free diet as our other dog (who sadly passed away 8 months ago) had skin allergies so we kept him on the same food. I can't even say that these problems started when we lost our other dog because he was exactly the same while she was here, she was never ever any comfort to him when he was stressed. Today we went out for 2 hours and he was absolutely fine and was fast asleep on our bed when we come home. I know I have rambled on a bit but there are so many things to explain. Thank you everyone for reading and reply to my posts.

So is it really just noises? Have you ever had his hearing checked?

No we have never had his hearing checked, maybe it's something I should consider, I always thought because he could hear a sweet wrapper open even if he is in the garden, his hearing was pretty good

It might lead to nothing but I think it's worth looking into. Crying and hiding behind a chair shaking sounds like it could be painful to him. Maybe not in a physical pain way but in an 'I can't bear that' way, like when some sounds split right between your ears.

Other than that, I'd try some desensitisation with him. It's a bit complicated to explain so if you want I'll sit down and write you something tomorrow and the general theory and on how I'd go about it. Have you ever tried clicker training at all? I'm wondering how he'd react to the noise of a clicker, whether it would be too much for him.

Thank you, I am willing to try anything with him, so things don't frighten him, for months he used to be frightened of the wind down the chimney, now it doesn't bother him. But any advice or help you can give me that I could try with him would be wonderful thank you

Have you tried the pheromone collars or calming drops?

I have tried the Adaptil plug in, but I have not tried the collars, do you know where I could get one of those please?

I live in Australia and I know my dog obedience class sells them. Have you tried looking online?

You can get the collars from vets and probably online.

I haven't forgotten this, I've started writing but it's getting long! I'm travelling today but will get back to it soon.

Claireabella liz is the woman to help and will get back to u shortly

Lavendar oil on his bed could help. I used to restrict Daisy to her comfort area (utility room) and put the tumble dryer on as it soothed her. Maybe try the radio on to block out any noises.

I think the more room he has the more anxious he would be when you are out. Good luck x

Sorry this has taken so long!



Addressing fear

It is important to understand, notice and adress fear in dogs of any age. This is particularly true of puppies, dogs who are nervous by natural temperament and rescue dogs who may have negative associations with certain people, objects, etc. by experience. Any dog can be fearful, though, so understanding fear and anxiety is important for everyone.

What is fear?
Simply put, fear is the mechanism that protects you from danger. When you fear something, your body goes into its automatic response of adrenalin release, which in turn affects your heart beat and your breathing. The objective is to provide oxygen to your muscles to enable you to respond quickly and strongly.
Fear can be felt on different levels. You can be worried by something, you can be terrified, or you can be anywhere in between. All should be taken seriously as what starts out as worry can develop into full blown fear. Because fear itself is a very unpleasant sensation, feeling it can reaffirm that the thing is scarey and this can lead the problem to snowball. This is particularly true if an owner is unaware of the fear and repeatedly puts their dog in a fearful situation, such as taking him to places with lots of other dogs if they worry him.

What are dogs scared of?
Dogs, like humans, can be scared of anything. It is irrelevant if the object of the fear is actually dangerous or even mildly threatening, it is the animal’s perception that is important. A dog can be scared of a cuddly toy, for example, and experience all the same feelings as if he was confronting an axe murderer. We know that the latter is more dangerous but that doesn’t matter, if the dog is scared he is scared.

Common fears for dogs include loud and sudden noises, being left alone, new and unexpected things and, of course, other dogs!

How do I know if my dog is scared?
A fearful dog will first and foremost show by his body language. He will get lower to the ground, pin his ears back, tuck his tail in, try to move or at least look away, yawn, pant and whine. Different dogs show different signs to differing degrees. It is important to recognise the earliest signals for your own dog so you can spot when he is in a position he’s not happy with. If you miss him telling you he’s fearful of the man standing over him, his next option may well be to growl, snarl or even bite in an attempt to get the man to move away.

Can’t I just avoid what he’s scared of?
Yes, you often can but not always. Working to eliminate a fear or to give your dog a suitable response to his trigger means you are less likely to be caught unawares. You will also often find that working to overcome fears increases confidence in general, which is great for dogs who are generally prone to nerves and worries (which means many staffies!). While you are working on it, of course, it is wise to avoid triggers unless they are within your control and within what your dog can (just about) cope with at the moment.

So what do I do?
• Attune yourself to your dog’s body language. Learn to read the subtle signs he gives you to say ‘I’m not sure about that’. As you will see later, that ‘uh oh’ moment is where you can most help him;
• Be aware of your own reactions and emotions. If you become tense, get cross and tell you dog he’s being silly, freeze, shout, or even just plough on bravely, you will not only not be helping your dog, you may well be making it worse. You need to learn to remain relaxed, keep your lead relaxed except for very brief moments if absolutely necessary, and give your dog a feeling of confidence in you. If you are worried, you will convey that he is right to be so too! Learn to breathe out, relax your shoulders and keep a positive, happy attitude.
• Have a plan. We will go on to explain your options in a bit more detail in a minute. What will help you and your dog above all else is to have a plan in your mind, with options if Plan A turns out to be not right for what may be a changing situation.
• Train. Train, train, train. Your dog is learning all the time, training is really about helping him learn what you want him to learn, not what you don’t.

I’ve never done any training, can I do it?
Yes, anyone can train. Take things slowly, understand from the dog’s point of view why something works, and give it a go! If you have a problem that you feel beyond you at the moment, you might want to call in a professional, making sure you choose a trainer who uses positive methods only.

Ready? Let’s get started! First of all, general training notes...

Know your dog, know yourself
Working out which method to use and how to set up your training plan means thinking about what will work for you. Always use a method that rewards the behaviour you want the second you get it (food is the most common reward for dogs) and avoid reprimands or punishment, including shouting, harsh words and, above all, striking your dog. 'Punishment' in the very technical sense can be used when you know what you are doing, but it is generally not effective for fear situations as it will make a dog more stressed.

If your dog isn’t motivated by food, then a method that uses treats as a reward might not be the right one. There is also no point in choosing a training method that doesn’t suit you. If you’re not very good at holding several different things in your hands at once, trying to hold a clicker, a target, a lead and a treat pouch while focussing on your dog might not be your best bet.

You may well need to adapt to your dog’s needs though - you might find something difficult or inconvenient but it might still be the best method for the situation.

Planning
Planning means thinking ahead. Plan your walks according to current needs, make sure you take enough treats to last a lifetime, and have a backup plan. If you plan on working on traffic from that quiet car park that no one ever uses and turn up to find a Ramblers’ organised walk is meeting there, pressing on with your plan isn’t really your best option.

Little and often
The best training is usually done in short, clear sessions. It’s much easier to learn one clear thing than try to understand and remember a lot. It is better to achieve one small thing well than sort of get the rough idea of several.

Whenever possible, always end a training session on a good note, leaving you both feeling positive. If you have not achieved what you aimed for, do something else good then go and rethink how you can achieve it (or part of it) next time.

Fear training

Step 1 - Identify your problem
That might sound obvious but it isn’t always. What exactly is it that your dog is scared of? We usually see things as a whole that we put a name on, so for example you might say my dog is scared of cars when he’s on walk, but what is it he that bothers him? Is it the noise, is the the sight of them moving quickly? Is it all cars or just some? What about lorries and motorbikes?

Are there other things that upset your dog? It’s worth making a full list early on so that you know the extent of the problem. It’s also possible that things are related. A dog who is fearful of loud noises may also be fearful of lorries, may also have a problem with bin day. The individual things that set him off are called his triggers.

It’s often worth keeping a diary so that you can really understand the problem fully before you set out your action plan.

Step 2 – Break it down
Now you know what you are dealing with, have a look how you can make each of the triggers smaller. If you have several triggers, you will probably also want to prioritise. You may be able to live with a fear of children as you rarely see them but really need to deal with the panic on bin days when he goes into a blind panic, which means you have to make sure you are out of the house every week (and heavens help you if they’re early or late!).
With every trigger, there will be degrees. Something a mile away and out of sight is simply not an issue, that same thing right in your face will send you into meltdown. If you are training when it is a mile away, you won’t learn anything because there is nothing to learn. Training when you are in meltdown doesn’t work either because your adrenalin will have kicked you into survival mode and your brain won’t be taking in the right information. There will be a point, though, somewhere between where you are aware of the thing just to the point of wondering if it’s ok, if you need to act. That’s what I call the ‘uh oh’ point. That is the critical learning point.

Let’s take an example. Your dog is scared of motorbikes, with both the sound and sight causing him to lunge and snarl. A motorbike that is switched off and locked in a garage in the next village is so unscarey there’s no point even thinking about it. A motorbike that zooms past you full throttle at 70mph close enough that you have to jump out of its way to avoid getting run over is beyond belief terrifying and you won’t be learning anything else.
The ‘uh oh’ point will be somewhere in between. In this example, we have 2 triggers, sight and sound. It may well be easier for the dog to deal with these two separately, so let’s find the ‘uh oh’ for sound only to start off with. You might want to find videos of motorbikes that have good sound or use the voice recorder on your phone to get some good motorbike sounds. For some dogs, these might be enough to hit that point of initial worry. With a bit of thinking, you should be able to find places where you can stand and just hear motorbikes – off a road where one may well go from time to time, for example.

As you work, the ‘uh oh’ point will move as your dog learns that he could cope with the first point, and you will be able to add two triggers together, but it is important to take it slowly and be prepared to go back a step, find a smaller step, if it’s too much.

Step 3 – positive associations
The main method used to break down fear is to replace negative associations with positive ones. Instead of thinking that there is this scarey thing that’s out to get me and we’ll get closer and closer till my heart’s about to explode, you learn that it won’t get any closer and if you stand still and do nothing in fact you’ll get a treat! Well how easy is that?

Some dogs respond well to simply being fed a treat, others are very motivated by clicker training, some love a toy as a reward and others just love a fuss. Use whatever your dog responds to best but try to keep things calm, we’re trying to lower excitement not raise it.

Whenever there’s even the slightest chance of encountering the trigger, make sure you will be able to go into training mode so make sure you have your reward with you. However, it is much more effective to set up training sessions in non-real situations first so that you can control intensity and length. Teach your dog in the quiet of your garden that whenever he hears that rumble of a motorbike engine he just needs to sit and he’ll get a treat, and he’ll then know what to do when he hears that same sound when you’re walking down the road.

To start off with, always, always, always reward. One of the biggest mistakes of training is to under-reward. Get something 100% solid first, then you can start skipping some. You'll work hard for you boss if he over-pays you but are less likely to do so if he under-pays you.

Step 4 – relaxation
Given that fear creates a stress response, teaching your dog to relax in the face of that trigger can produce excellent and long lasting results. One of the easiest ways to do this is to drop treats on the floor. This not only carries on the positive associations, it also gets your dog’s head down. A low head is not alert and looking for danger, it is a relaxed position. If your dog is usually happy to snuffle for treats at home but can’t do it in a training session, it’s an indicator that you need to reduce the intensity of the trigger.

Always look to have a relaxed lead. There are always times when you will need use the lead for safety or for a momentary 'hey' but you should always look to keep the lead loose as much as possible. This will help both of you. Relaxation is important for you too and you may well find that this helps you as well as your dog and vice versa, as you being relaxed will transmit to him.

Talking of body positions, it’s fine for your dog to sit in these situations but never ask him to lie down if he doesn’t want to, it’s far to exposed and vulnerable and will only increase his fear.

Step 5 – release the pressure
One of the greatest rewards you can give a fearful animal is to decrease the intensity of the trigger. That might be by allowing him to move away or by the trigger moving away, depending on the situation. Always resist the temptation to think how well he’s done, so let’s try just a little bit more. That is then ‘rewarding’ his good work with something unpleasant and won’t encourage him to try again, maybe harder.

Step 6 – repeat
You should aim to repeat something at least twice more in each session. The first time you do something you’re not aware you can do it, the 2nd time you are aware and learning, the 3rd you know you can do it and it builds confidence.

Next session, repeat what you did last time to build confidence then, if you’re dog’s ready, ask a little more, make the trigger a little stronger, and repeat that.

Common questions
- Why is my dog scared of something now that didn’t bother him before? There are various reasons why fears appear, sometimes seemingly out of nowhere. It can often be due to a single incident, it can be due to association with something else, it can be because there was a small anxiety before that went unnoticed and ‘suddenly’ appears only when it has escallated. Some young dogs develop anxieties as they mature. It is also not uncommon for dogs with other causes of stress or tension, such as physical discomfort, to be able to cope less well with other factors.
- My dog can sometimes cope with something but at other times he’ll react badly, why is this? This is very often due to what is called trigger stacking, which is when you have more than one trigger coming into play. You may be able to cope with one thing, but if you add another, and maybe even another, it is all too much and and you can no longer cope. That’s why it’s important to deal with one trigger at a time when training.
- I can’t work out what exactly is what the triggers are and I think there is more than one, how can I find them? Keep a diary. Note when your dog reacts, how big the reaction is, and what was going on not only at the time but also before.
- How long will it take to retrain my dog? There’s no one answer to this. It depends on how deep his fear is, how much time you spend training and how good your training is. Sometimes it goes really quickly, others it takes time. Don’t give up, it’s worth the investment.
- I have been trying training for a few days and it’s made no difference, what should I do? See if you can find a way of changing your set-up. Change what you’re working with and what you’re rewarding with. Also, keep reading your dog to make sure that you’re in the ‘uh oh’ zone, which will move as your dog learns. If your trigger is too great or not strong enough, you won’t get positive learning. If you’re still making no progress after a while and a few changes, you may well need professional help, ideally one-on-one to start off with.
- I don’t have the time to do training or the money for a professional, is there another way? Not really. Our dogs need us to help them, they don’t know what we want otherwise. Without us, they will keep responding in the way that seems appropriate to them, which is not always the way we want.
- Do DAP diffusers, Thundershirts, etc help? There is some evidence that various aids on the market can bring some relief to some animals. However, if a dog is scared of something, teaching him that he can cope with it is the only way that he will know he need not fear. Relying on an external aid may be part of a training programme but isn’t a replacement for it.
- How do I deal with sudden noises, such as fireworks and storms? These are among the hardest fears to work with as they are out of your control to a great extent and can often occur when you are not there to help. The best is to try a general programme of noise desensitisation, gradually building up to loud and sudden noises, teaching your dog 'yay, there was a loud noise, how brilliant here's a treat'. It can take a long time but it can help significantly. Creating a greater general confidence in all sorts of events is the most beneficial.