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Post by Karenm on Sat Mar 19 2016, 22:21

Hi all,
I'm new to this and have a gorgeous five month old brindle staffie. We chose a staffie as we have young children and after a lot of research felt a staffie was the best dog for us due to their love of children.
As we know they are not always great around other dogs we have taken her to a puppy open hour at our local garden centre, Ruby's enjoyed this however today she was very boisterous, the other owners all huddle together and kept their dogs away from Ruby, it was obvious they were judging her by her breed and not appreciating that she is stronger than the other dogs and was therefore pinning them down, even the people who run it suggested she shouldn't be around the other dogs. I don't think ruby was showing aggression and she was just playing but I no longer feel welcome at this. i desperately want ruby to be socialised with other dogs but not sure how to do this now.
Has anyone any suggestions how they socialised their puppy to get her used to other dogs?
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Upsetting experience

Post by -Ian- on Sun Mar 20 2016, 01:00

Hi & Welcome to the Forum from Flo and me Big Grin

Sorry for the delayed reply, I think we are all celebrating the end of the rugby Rolling Eyes

I think your spot on with the aggression thing, at 5 months they don't understand proper aggression so it is all play, the Staffy way. I'm a little surprised that the group leader didn't reassure those around and you that this is simply boisterous play, which it is.

I would attend similar classes if not the same one but step in when your girl gets over excited and pins another dog by removing her and making her sit then reward. This reinforces the thinking that no rough play equals a reward.

Hopefully you'll see some more replies with great suggestions after mine.


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Re: Upsetting experience

Post by Mia05 on Sun Mar 20 2016, 06:18

hiya and welcome id continue socialising your dog most areas run puppy classes xx


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Post by Mistys Mum on Sun Mar 20 2016, 08:29

Welcome from me and Misty. I agree, it's definitely puppy play and not aggression. I'm shocked that the people who run it didn't know this and made you feel like Ruby shouldn't be around dogs.
There will be other puppy classes in the area and I think you should definitely take her to another one. Your vets might be able to recommend a good one.


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Post by LizP on Sun Mar 20 2016, 08:31

Hi and welcome from me and mine!

What a shame! Sadly, it's all too common that our staffies are judged by their breed. I suppose in fairness, though, people who aren't used to rough dog play can get worried when it starts to get a little rougher.

I'd check with your vets, they might be able to recommend somewhere that does puppy classes. Something a bit more structured can help teach dogs to be a bit calmer around others while, at the same time, maintaining the socialisation. If you can't get a word of mouth recommendation, search online. Have a look here to see if there is anyone near you:

http://www.apdt.co.uk/

Always try and use a positive method trainer, not someone who will use choke collars and stuff like that.

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Re: Upsetting experience

Post by Karenm on Sun Mar 20 2016, 12:04

Thank you all for responding, I had read about people's reaction sometimes to Staffies but it's the first time I've experienced it.
The lady who normally runs it wasn't there and I think the other person was not as experienced. We've found another place I think we're going to try and my husband says he'll take Ruby back to this one on his own (he's less concerned about how the people were). Also going to try the sit and treat, hadn't tjought of that but she is very responsive to treat led training.
Thank you all again.

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Re: Upsetting experience

Post by lexii on Sun Mar 20 2016, 18:40

If i was you i would try to get a group of proper dog owners together to let her play with. People with little poofy baby dogs are not worth your time lol
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Post by Willsblueboy1 on Sun Mar 20 2016, 18:55

Hi from me and Blue, don't be put of by people misconception of Staffy's, the do sound worse than they are they are only playing, go to vet who should be able to recommend good puppy classes. They are a great breed and awesome character's, sure Ruby is a real cutie!
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Post by Sealpig on Mon Mar 21 2016, 19:05

Hi and welcome from me and Rio Smile i don't have much experience with this as Rio doesn't like other dogs too much so he doesn't play with them, but everyone's advice here sounds spot on and there's a lot of experience on the forum ready to help Smile keep us updated with how you get on
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Re: Upsetting experience

Post by stella on Mon Mar 21 2016, 19:45

hia from me and sasha Smile


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Re: Upsetting experience

Post by Karenm on Mon Mar 21 2016, 21:44

Thank you all for advice, reassurance and welcoming me to the forum, sure it'll become a regular site for me
Lexie....I'll have to look for a non poofy dog group

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Post by shegsy on Wed Mar 23 2016, 21:21

Hello and a warm welcome to the forum Smile
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Post by Inez Maria on Thu Mar 24 2016, 18:58

Hiya from me and Vinnie, I had exactly same at puppy classes but just keep socializing out and about and boisterous they are ,,,,,, Vinnie is still at nearly 5 Big Grin


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Post by Goblin on Thu Mar 24 2016, 20:06

Good luck, and do try to befriend a few people with dainty pedigree dogs some of them are cracking good fun. It took me ages to get Gizmo ok with playing with small and/or delicate-framed dogs and I really wish I'd managed to introduce him to more of them when he was littler and less keen on allstar wrestling so he'd know more types of playing.
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Post by TwoSocks on Fri Mar 25 2016, 17:13

Oh that's a good idea, I feel much happier around bigger dogs as I know they are less phased by Una's bounce, but yes I need to look out for small dogs and get a proper introduction going
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Post by VikkiGT4 on Tue Apr 05 2016, 15:32

Hi and welcome to the forum from me and the zoo Smile xx
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Post by Staff Bull on Tue Apr 05 2016, 15:43

Hi from me and Ice.
Your puppy is just playing. It's only ignorant people who don't understand and like you say unfortunately our dogs are judged because they are Staffordshires. But they are only judged by people who are to ignorant and dumb to ask about them or find out the truth about how much of a great breed of dog they are.
There is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners.
Enjoy your dog because they are the best dogs on the planet barr none.
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Post by Sara n Ozzy on Fri Apr 08 2016, 18:22

Hi and welcome from Oz and me


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Post by ClareGilby on Wed Apr 20 2016, 19:23

Hello and welcome. From a seasoned staffy owner, we have to learn to grow a very thick skin owning this wonderful breed.

Unfortunately we have to try twice as hard to make sure their behavious is impeccable or you are judged. Try and keep all four paws on ground when he meets other dogs and as said treat for the good behaviour. You have to forgive people their ignorance as you are blessed with the most wonderful of breeds. Good Luck x
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