pit bull

So I was walking the dogs and I get mine on the lead as we are at the end of the walk, then 2 dogs come charging at us from a big distance, I know the owner to these dogs as she always has them on the lead, out of just adrenaline I grab hold of the biggest one and my husband grabs the other, as I look at the dog I realise it isnt just a big staff its a pitbull and the other ones a brindle staff, the neither dogs went for us but they did charge into my dogs, dont really know what to do?

What would you have done if it was a lab that charged at you but showed no aggression? Same rule applies IMO.

I understand that but as them being a banned breed I dont know what im suppose to do, and tbh I dont I gave it time to show aggression as I just grabbed hold of it, I have no problem with pitbulls but they are banned and the lady that has them does do and her husband sells drugs

How do you know it's a Pitbull? Are you trained in the measurements or just going off the size and look? Very very unlikely that it would be but understand many staffys are crossed with labs/mastiffs/am Bulls to look like type

If seized and found to be only 51% pit 'type' it could be destroyed (likely if the owners are as you describe) 

If as you say you see the owner regularly and the dogs are usually on lead and there was no aggression I think I would er on how would I feel if a stranger reported me and my dog was seized

Its muscley bigger than a typical male staff and the head is bigger, if you seen it you would easily tell, and I know I understand that I wouldnt report her thats not me, but im just confused in general, the dogs she has are both males and if you seen the dog you would understand, ive seen lots of big staffs but the face on this one is muscley

Its not an American bulldog, and it doesnt look like a lab or any other dog of my knowledge and im pretty good with dog breeds

It's your call ultimately. My previous job involved assessing dogs to deem if they were type or not, and even 3 experts looking at the same dog could disagree. It's never clear cut, there are very few fully pure bred pit bulls in the UK.

I wouldnt report it I dont believe a dog should be defined on its breed, and its white and red and if you saw it especially close up youd think pitbull, andI bet that was a hard job rachel

I'm not really sure what you're asking. You said you didn't know what to do, about what?

That it's a pit bull in your opinion? I'd advise you to do nothing, it didn't attack you, it was off lead this time but you admitted it usually was on lead when you saw them, where' s the problem? If educated people can't even decide on whether a dog is a pit bull or not then I very much doubt if you and I could tell.

I'm really sorry, Hannah&Michael, but I'm a bit surprised by the 'breedist' attitude here. Does it matter what sort of dog runs at you? Why should it being, in your opinion, possibly a pit bull matter? We just had a near miss with another dog on the Heath. My dogs were both on leads as it was dusk and prime bunny chasing hour, when a chap let his 3 dogs out of the car and they all came rushing towards us. One of the came up close, barking quite aggressively. They were spaniels.

I agree with Rachel, even the experts have to reach for a tape measure.

Report him for selling drugs.

Debs I completely agree its not the dog thats currently the issue the problem is the owner they are drug dealers and how long before the dog does end up biting because theyve had dogs before that did bite, and then in my opinion I would say it was a pitbull ive researched dogs from a child I have many books and of my own personal knowledge it couldnt be any other,
And liz, breedist? Really? if you would of read my comment above you would realise I do not define a dog on its breed, and it matters in the sense of uk law whether you and I like that or not, and as I said its never the breed of the dog its the owner, more reported dog bites in the uk are from dogs like labradors, however due to bull breeds biting mostly at the face it is scrutinised more,

Colin, hes already been and come out he hid the drugs in the kids clothing

Chances are the police are still watching him so they will know about the dog. When they raid they turn up with a dog catcher lol i used to live in a bad area. They watch then for ages.

To be honest I live in a pretty good area but the dole pay for there housing and I hope so because there selling to young lads and girls

Sorry if I've offended, Hannah. Reading your opening post it does sound like the breed was the key issue for you. I'm glad it's not.

What do you mean by charged? Run towards you if they let you hold them they don't sound aggressive to me.
You are saying its a pit bull . Do you mean American pit bull terrier ? And from your expert opinion u wanna report that a dog that is maybe an apbt maybe was going to attack u so the dog maybe will be destroyed .
How do you know they are drug dealers and were they hide the stuff unless you buy drugs from them?
I don't really understand what you are asking in your post but its ignorant coming from people who claim to have 4 dogs including two staffies. I wouldn't want any dog get killed even if they have vicious owners. Grow up

So know im a druggy? And actually the lady who lives next door to them is a good friend of mine and she is sick of them, I actually cannot believe that you have insinuated that, I think you need to read my previous messages instead of being so ignorant to what I was actually saying. I never said I wanted the dogs to get killed.

Liz - no you havent offended me as I do understand where your coming from, I think my main concern is if they do turn aggressive as I know theu have had aggressive dogs before thats all

Also as I said I do agree with rachel, and peppa tbh you have offended me as I think you are very ignorant to jump and call people so quickly, which I think is completely out of order on a forum which is suppose to help not opinionated and judge.

Can we please try to keep this thread in line. No need for arguments or personal remarks.

Well said Rach, just have your opinions without it getting heated

The written word can be mistaken. I'm sure that no one is calling anyone a drug dealer or anything else.

As said above, please keep all comments in context. We are a friendly Forum that offers advice and help, let's keep it that way.

Blimey - that's getting a bit heated isn't it?

Surely even if it was a pitbull if its loved, trained well & no cruelty involved then they can make good dogs surely?

to be honest there was a debate as to whether the dog i saw was just an APBT or just type, most likely type, ive seen him again and hes beautiful, but as said above i really dont know what you are asking, if the dog is fine, no need to do anything about it.... and you could say 'what if it becomes aggressive' about any dog really, so i really think it shouldnt matter if it is a pitbull or not

no harm done just leave it at that happy staffie lovers

If this issue is the drugs and that the neighbour is sick of them, that issue should be mutually exclusive from their two dogs and after seeing the two dogs and thinking one is a pitbull, should be the trigger. Sure make the good aware you suspect drug dealers in the area but there is no reason to mention the dogs nor the incident that wasn't even an incident. Let the cops look into the drug situation but that's all I would so if it were me. Actually tbh, I probably wouldn't even be able to bring myself to report that, as I'd be too scared haha

Hannah&Michael UK wrote:Also as I said I do agree with rachel, and peppa tbh you have offended me as I think you are very ignorant to jump and call people so quickly, which I think is completely out of order on a forum which is suppose to help not opinionated and judge.

chill out mate, its easy to think your being ganged up on when your not. sometimes things come accross wrong when written down. i like your posts and know your heart is in the right place just be aware things can come accross wrong when you cant see the visual signs of the poster, that goes for both sides. I sometimes feel like the scum of the earth on some other forums i post on with bikejoring but when we meet its a different matter.
anyway onto the pitbull, more likley type as no one i know would sell a pure to a druggy and risk that comming back on them. the fact that you managed to grab it says to me it isnt dangerouse just livley. the owners however should take more responcibility for the dogs as with the new laws just in they may find themselves foul of the dangerouse dogs act. do them a favour and give them a stern word.

From the sounds of it you listen to the stigma attached to the word pitbull youve stereotyped the dog which is wrong. As im presuming your a staffy owner you shouldn't as the stigma with sbt's is bad enough why not educate yourself on the breed like ive done in the past couple of years and understand them instead of pointing the finger which im sorry to tell you you have doe by putting this thread.
youve probably seen a petbull and by petbull i mean a cross breed that bred to look like a pitbull type dog by back yard breeders if you would have seen a full fledged american pitbull terrier the it would have been a different story as they have dog aggression in there genes but they are very very rare to see in this country.
I own a dog that fits all american dog breed association conformation standards of an american pitbull terrier had an adba judge say to me she doesnt think she a mix and shes also been typed by the authorities does that mean she is a pitbull ? no t does not. my point is just because it looks like a pitbull doesn't mean it is one.
give all dogs a chance dont buy into the media!!
just this week sky news said a 9 stone "pitbull" killed a little girl NO pitbull is nine stone they just fill your head with lies and youve im sorry to say bought into them, please educate yourself and dont discriminate at the end of the day there from the same lines as staffys just bred to be taller and more athletic among other things would you like it if somebody said something about your dog ?

Rant over

It sounds like there's mainly frustration towards the owners more than anything, nobody wants unknown dogs racing up and barging into your own dogs uninvited. Any of your dogs may be ill and a bit more sensitive than usual etc, anyway ultimately you want the owners to do their job alot better at least and let you do yours. It's true that most so called Pit Bulls are mixes of other breeds rather than genuine APBTs. Seems a little attention seeking for drug dealers to have such dogs, not something i would think they'd really want, sounds like their time will come before too long, just try to avoid them as much as you can. Peace mate.