worried bout 2 things

FIRSTLY

when i first had gotten lexy just over a year and a half ago everything was awesome until she was old enough to come into heat and to my knowledge the most common time for first time is between 6-8 months.

HOWEVER Lexy did not have her first spill until about 11 months. NOW that i have diesel as well who is 7 months almost 8 its kinda worrying me as in normal average time lexy should have been on heat and all and there isn't a sign of swelling or blood which is bringing me to the possible thought of her being pregnant !!!!!!! ( I KNOW SILLY ME FOR NOT CRATING HIM ETC)

is there anyway apart from going to the vet that i can check if she is pregnant as my vet would charge me me about £40 just for a test which is bloody extortionate for a dogs prey test.

SECOND WORRY … is this kidney disease thing thats going about ..THANKFULLY its not been alarmed to be here in belfast, Ireland but it still really worries me .. if you guys have any precautions that i should be taking with my fur babies and what signs to look out for ?? Id be very grateful

THANKS GUYS

You need to go to your vet if you think she's pregnant. If you were careless enough to not bother to crate your entire male dog while your bi*ch was in season, then you've gotta pay the price! Can't answer about the kidney disease.

The responsible thing to do is to take the bitch to the vet and get her tested, If you did leave them alone while on heat there is a very good chance she is pregnant, Would the vet be able to a spay ? how long ago was it that you left them ?

Definitely go to the vets as you need to know.

Yes,please get her to the vet ASAP for a pregnancy test, she may be able to have the morning after pill so long as it isn't to late. Are you set up for being a breeder ???????

thanks for your comments everyone …. no I'm not but looks like I'm gonna have to be set up in a great hurry if she is pregnant !!!

Seems to me like you wont take her to the vets to get her checked and pay the money weather it be £40 or more but you are willing to let her have some puppies regardless of the costs that might involve, and you are willing to bring more staffys into the world when there are so many needing homes already,

 So I take it you will be getting Diesel neutered when he is old enough ???

You must get her to the vets anyway to get things checked over. She is still quite young herself to be having a litter ????

breeding any animal never makes money, she needs to see the vet now so get ready to start paying the vet a lot of money

Wow... This is just awful.

Vets now

Hold on... I've just re-read! Are you saying that you think lexy is pregnant from her previous season as few months back because she hasn't come into season again since?

If that is the case who is the father as the male dog would of just been a pup, and isn't that more careless than a accidental mating between two dogs that live in the same house ?

I'm just thinking, if he only thinks that she's pregnant because she hasn't come into season again and she's not showing any other signs, maybe she's not pregnant?

Wouldn't the male have been too young to get her pregnant if it was the season before? I'm a little confused.

In any case, there really is no excuse for leaving an entire male around a bitch in season, sorry but "oopsie" just doesn't cut it.

I really do hope she's not pregnant as she's so young as well

I can understand the mistake of accidental mating though imo very wrong of the owner to leave them together but what has annoyed me tbh is not wanting to pay the money at the vets for the test or as it sounds to take the bitch to get seen to but its ok to allow the pups to be born if she is pregnant but she isn't thinking about the costs to do with breeding them or the safety of the bitch,

Ok everyone ive read through all the comments and Evesman i think ur being a little harsh i just sed it was extortionate prices for a test i did not say i wasnt gonna take her. Rachel/ debs what i meant was that she was 11 months in her previous heat when it started and was told by the vet that it would be 6 months (december) when her next cycle would be due and its almost the end of jan and still not here and my babies stay in the same room when we aint home and i know Evesman its stupid and i should no better!

I was just curious about it that was all ... and whilst on the subject i see that everyone ignored the deadly kidney disease thats in uk atm .... but thank u all for your feedback ill have lexy at the vet tomorrow and keep u posted

It is only on average every six months. Some are less and some are more, I doubt she is pregnant to be honest as your male was very young . But I would take it as a wake up call and get one of them neutered, preferably both . Good luck at the vets.
I have also heard about this disease that can cause kidney failure and a few dogs have died as a result of this. It is very worrying and have to be vigilant   

Daryl - if Lexy didn't come into season until she was 11 months old she was leaving it a little late. If 8 months later (given that you say she is 19 months old now) she hasn't come into season again it may just be that she is a particularly unfertile female (let's hope so!).

However, if she came into season again after the normal 6 months or so after her last season and got pregnant, then she would be ready to pop by now and you would certainly have recognised the changes in her.

If Diesel is only 7 months old now, then he's still very much a kid. And although like most young teenagers he might be emitting seminal fluid (is he?) it is entirely possible that at his young age he hasn't a clue about what to do about it when in the presence of a bitch in season. Has he (was he) been showing signs of extra arousal around Lexy - sniffing at her backside etc?

Alternatively, has Lexy had free and unsupervised access to any other entire male?

Has Lexy been showing and change in her body shape - a slight thickening around the waist (if she allows you to you may feel a slight lump in her abdomen if she is pregnant) and have her teats become larger?

If she is not pregnant (and I sincerely hope she is not, as the cost of birthing a bitch and bringing up her puppies until they are ready to be rehomed [always hoping that you can find good homes for them]) will be a lot more than the £40 for a pregnancy test.

Finally, I would earnestly recommend that you have Lexy spayed as soon as possible. There are schemes available where, if money is a problem and you meet certain criteria, this can be done at minimal or no cost to you.

I hope this helps - do please keep us updated.

Thanks alot debs

Lynda she hasnt changed any shape and teets are the same however diesel has tried to hump on her a couple times in the past but not that ive noticed of lately.

Lexy on the other hand has not been near any male as when she ever leaves the house its with me or my mrs on a harness .

U have been very helpful thank you ... ill learn from.this silly mistake

Humping is not always a sexual thing - more often than not it's a display of (attempted) dominance.

However, I really would urge you to get Lexy spayed; that will take a great deal of worry off your mind. Diesel is far too young at the moment to neuter, but it may be something to consider when he's more mature.

As for the kidney disease thing - it's worth considering if a dog suddenly develops an open sore, but then we'd probably take them to the vet anyway. It's also worth remembering that this particular affliction has mostly been in the New Forest area of Hampshire, where there is a particularly nasty biting fly not found elsewhere, and I would hazard a guess that this is the culprit.

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Okay, it sounds like she's not pregnant. Pregnancy in dogs usually only lasts for 9 weeks, so if she somehow
managed to get pregnant in her last season and it's been 6 months now she would have had the pups. Definitely get her spayed.. Not meaning to sound rude but it doesn't sound like you know anything about breeding and it's not something you want to be messing around with, firstly because you could loose Lexy during the birth, but secondly 68 staffies die every single day in the uk because of backyard bred pups like these would be. Just do the responsible thing mate.

you asked for abit of advice and got bashed on..i dont recall ur topic been called am i careless please bash on me for this question.bloody keyboard warriors!! my advice would be just to go to the vet,hefty prices yes but better to be safe to check if pregnant or liver problems,im sure all will be ok

you asked for abit of advice and got bashed on..i dont recall ur topic been called am i careless please bash on me for this question.bloody keyboard warriors!! my advice would be just to go to the vet,hefty prices yes but better to be safe to check if pregnant or liver problems,im sure all will be ok

Its not "bashed on" to be honest. People have opinions about things and just like I wouldn't expect you to hold back your opinion I wouldn't hold my own back either. I wouldn't call myself a keyboard warrior. I'm entitled to say whatever I want just as you are

its the way its said,he was obviously offended,,theres better ways sometimes on the way u express it,without making someone feel they have done the worst thing in the world.its not like hes just wrote he shot his dog for fun isit,theres ur advice then theres ur opinion!

I don't think anyone on here means to upset anyone else. Its just that puppies and breeding are a very sore subject we all know how desperate the situation is. I'm sure he can understand why people did get a bit angry

ive been bashed on myself on here because i lead my dog at night if i see a strange man coming towards me..i dont doit in the day nor do i doit every night but on the odd occassion i do.my dog makes me feel safe at night.i left him off the other day on advice on here i was told im going to make my dog ppl aggressive and a drunk man kicked him and called me a bitch,my dog then proceeded to bark at him and the guy swiftly (but wobbly) hurried off as i dont think no one would want to be bitten by any dog.so who is right n who is wrong,if i had leaded him i believe he would nt have been kicked because he was by my side,sometimes as upset as some ppl are theres just nicer ways to write it..i agree on the breeding theres so many staffs around there just isnt enough homes for them..but i just think theres a way to write it without making members feel so bad

I don't think I read that post I'm sorry! I hope your dog is okay, I think if anyone kicked my dog I would have floored them!! How rude!

I do think that the written word is much harder to express than if I was standing in front of you as you can see my facial expressions, hear my voice and something that comes across as harsh on paper may sound completely different in conversation. I hope that makes sense! I really don't think anyone meant to upset you, i'll find and read the post in a minute I think maybe it's just a case of trying to give advice without any expressions or voice tone and it sounding harsher than it was meant to?

I am sorry that you felt bashed though, as unintended as it may have been

i know im a hot head..and i think had he not been drunk i would have floored him aswell ha!! i just worry bout drunken ppl as if i had hit him n he banged his head id probly be in prison now..i think the dog scared him enough for him to not doit again..i will be more cautious tho n i will lead him when i feel the need,its my right really isnt it.im here to protect my dog aswell.i know what your saying with the on paper it can look bad..but face value it probly wouldnt seem that way..i think its what i got on my topic that made me realise some ppl are way to harsh with opinions n not with advice if that makes sense same as i put a topic of a pitbull terrier saving his owner from an attacker,one woman told me i needed to read up on dogs saying they dont protect u they protect there surroundings,so i think she might be right.maybe it jumped over the wall to protect the tree in the street n not its owner ha!! we got into abit of an argument and our comments were removed :/ she belittled me and was just intent on destroying a nice story i had put on to show everyone i dont know anything,there was no need for her to be like that at all..thats why sometimes i get abit frustrated how ppl comment to others,sorry if i seemed rude

Nah don't worry, I can understand your frustrations and I am genuinely sorry you felt like you were belittled, again I didn't read this post (where have I been lol!). I personally believe that dogs do in fact protect you, not the surroundings in fact I'm a firm believer in this as I know for sure that Axl wouldn't let anyone hurt me but I also know for sure if anyone broke into my house he'd probably give them the grand tour and help them out with the t.v lol.

Try not to take too much notice of people unless they are giving some advice because there are lots of very knowledgeable people on here You are entitled to believe what you want and just because one person says different doesn't make them right and you wrong in every single case

There are lots of lovely people on here so enjoy their stories and company As with all things in life you can't get on with everyone and not everyone can get on with you

Thanks rachel yea iv no clue on breeding and never intend on doing it anytime soon until i know what im.doin and havve an expert breeder with me ...

Yea dudette my point exactly as i try my outright best to look after my babies just wen i have money something ALWAYS arises and its spent on that instead lol.


Thanks lynda that alot of worry of my shoulders

I wouldn't have a clue either to be honest lol! Best left to the professionals I say. Breeding is ALWAYS going to be a hot topic on here, I learnt this early on.. No-one's meaning to "attack" you as it's been put, but as it's an emotive subject tensions run high! Personally, i've just seen too many dogs die in rescue centres, but there are many many reasons not to breed, compared to the reasons to breed; which other members may feel strongly about.

I think as it appeared that you had been "careless" rather than asking for help BEFORE getting yourself into a situation; which could have resulted in your girl having to go through a traumatic experience either in a very young birth, a spay whilst pregnant, or another litter of possibly 8+ staffies in the world, people got concerned. Don't be offended, we're all just very protective of the breed.. as i'm sure you are too.

This is why I got a male, if I had a bitch and she somehow managed to get out I'd be having puppies myself.

I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding on this thread

When I read the op I read it that Daryl thinks that Lexy could be pregnant because he was expecting her to come into season around December and she hasn't yet I would guess he is comparing it to the human cycle and got worried

Sure he should have been considering keeping the dogs apart but potentially that would only be when she came into season!

As for the kidney disease it's a new one on me but good to get the heads up

Though there have been misunderstandings in this thread, the OP has clearly stated that he plans on breeding..

"yea iv no clue on breeding and never intend on doing it anytime soon until i know what im.doin and havve an expert breeder with me ..."

sorry my fault    i didn't fully read everything

I just meant if i ever wanted to breed her i would do those thing rachel but i never will she will be spayed this week but jshrew got it in one thanks man

Ahhh this thread is so confusing lol!! Okay awesome hope all goes well and she recovers quickly. Biscuit was miserable for about a day and had to wear a cone of shame. So we decorated it with hearts haha!

Hahahaha thats awsome

No worries, glad to hear she is being spayed given the circs it will take alot of stress and worry out of everything and fill the cone with soft toys.....cone of happiness