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Post by woothenoo Sat May 14 2011, 22:02

Jess is growing into a charming wee heart breaker........... We cant complain about anything, but I'm very worried about her occasional attacks on her tail? She goes into a frenzy and starts barking in a high pitched manner. When I say no, she totally ignores me and carries on. Its worrying me no end............ Shes also started eating grass? Anybody got any ideas what we're doing wrong???
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Post by gem Sat May 14 2011, 22:21

Nothing staffords are fruitcakes seriously shes just playing and the grass eating natures way of soaking up excess acid in the stomach and also she is wanting to give you a little job, a grassy bum sick
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Post by Guest Sat May 14 2011, 22:35

My Vinnie chases his tail at times, his just amusing himself he'll stop after a few twirls lol and hes a b**ger for eating grass!! no matter how much i tell him no he still does it, so its just having to help him when he gets a grassy bum!! lmao, good job i love him!

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Post by Guest Sun May 15 2011, 00:35

If it's obsessive, it could turn out to be a problem. If it's only occasionally & for short periods I wouldn't worry too much.

Same with the grass, a little is fine, but don't forget that dogs can't digest grass & if it stays inside the stomach it can cause bloat.

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Post by shane dee Sun May 15 2011, 01:14

if she keeps chasing her tail, its a sign of a crazy dog and it can be a problem ifs its not stopped early
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Post by janey Sun May 15 2011, 11:54

gem wrote:Nothing staffords are fruitcakes seriously shes just playing and the grass eating natures way of soaking up excess acid in the stomach and also she is wanting to give you a little job, a grassy bum sick

Laughing the joys of a grassy bum!!! Laughing
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Post by Guest Sun May 15 2011, 16:29

shane dee wrote:if she keeps chasing her tail, its a sign of a crazy dog and it can be a problem ifs its not stopped early

Crazy as in Laughing Laughing or crazy as in "mentally challenged"...? Not sure what you mean...??

She's is only 10 weeks old, I'm sure she'll find something else to amuse her very soon and totally forget about her own tail. As for the grass, it's grosse when it comes back up again, especially if they feel the need to try and eat it again, eeeewwhh!!! sick

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Post by shane dee Sun May 15 2011, 16:36

yeah mentally challenged is right. tail chasing is a sure sign of that.
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Post by janey Sun May 15 2011, 16:37

Caryll wrote:If it's obsessive, it could turn out to be a problem. If it's only occasionally & for short periods I wouldn't worry too much.


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Post by Guest Sun May 15 2011, 17:11

shane dee wrote:yeah mentally challenged is right. tail chasing is a sure sign of that.

Not necessarily. Sometimes, especially with very young pups, they chase their tails 'because they're there!'
You only need to be concerned if it's very frequent, or goes on for longer than a few seconds at a time.

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Post by Guest Sun May 15 2011, 19:22

billy did this all the time when he was a pup, i put a post on here about it cause I was worried, but he has grown out of it now, he does not know it is even there now.

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Post by woothenoo Sun May 15 2011, 21:06

Many thanks for all the replies. ...........
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Post by shane dee Sun May 15 2011, 21:09

yes i agree with caryll there. but if its still going on into adult hood its a sign of a mental condition
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Post by Guest Mon May 16 2011, 20:59

My Ty has little episodes of tail chasing and he's coming up 2, i can assure u he is NOT mental, now if my Kaos was doing it then i would completley agree Laughing only joking baby boy x mummy loves u really x

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Post by Guest Mon May 16 2011, 22:27

shane dee wrote: but if its still going on into adult hood its a sign of a mental condition

Only if it's obsessive.

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Post by Guest Tue May 17 2011, 02:22

Could we term it neurological disorder rather than "mental condition" as that sounds dreadful.

BTW Wendy, your puppy has the most disarming look, gorgeous Love Struck

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Post by woothenoo Tue May 17 2011, 09:49

Dogalogs88 wrote:Could we term it neurological disorder rather than "mental condition" as that sounds dreadful.

BTW Wendy, your puppy has the most disarming look, gorgeous Love Struck

Must admit the term mental condition really upset me, especially used so many times. Since posting my question I have told her off every time she even looks at her tail, so I think it is indeed just a puppy thing". She is totally gorgeous and so loving, and the thought that she would grow up mental was quite heartbreaking. This is the first time I have had a pup, and we had months of discussion regarding the breed we would get, so I educated myself and made the effort to meet the mum and bond before Jess was even born - the very name of Staffy scared me to death!! All I can say is that Jess is amazing, she has given us so much in the last few months and if anything bad was to happen to her we would be devastated.............. I am totally in love with her and I'm sure she loves us both and is pleased she came here to be a part of our family.............. As I write, she's sleeping content by my side, her wee head on my lap, pure angel xx
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Post by Guest Tue May 17 2011, 10:39

Wendy I'm in the process of uploading a video of what my nutter does and if someone suggests she has a mental condition after watching it, I will not be happy at all. You sound as if you've done enough homework into the breed and I Agree they are the most loyal and loving dog I have ever come across. Bless your little Jess angel

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Post by woothenoo Tue May 17 2011, 11:06

Dogalogs88 wrote:Wendy I'm in the process of uploading a video of what my nutter does and if someone suggests she has a mental condition after watching it, I will not be happy at all. You sound as if you've done enough homework into the breed and I Agree they are the most loyal and loving dog I have ever come across. Bless your little Jess angel

Thank you, will indeed look forward to seeing the video. Jess is a nutter too - but not a mental one, just a wee pup getting used to life and exploring everything thats new around her. xx
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Post by Guest Tue May 17 2011, 11:18

memphis chased his tail for a month or so when we first ot him he was used to havin siblins to play with he had to entertain himself lol
but after gettin his jabs he was oin out and to much on his mind to bother with his tail ha ha and it just fizzled out
i think its far to soon for people to be sayin its a problem fair anough in later life if still doin it get it cheacked but dont be worrying at the moment enjoy Big Grin

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Post by Guest Tue May 17 2011, 11:54

woothenoo wrote:
Dogalogs88 wrote:Could we term it neurological disorder rather than "mental condition" as that sounds dreadful.

BTW Wendy, your puppy has the most disarming look, gorgeous Love Struck

Must admit the term mental condition really upset me, especially used so many times. a xx

I'm really sorry that you were upset by the use of that term - you're right, it was insensitive. But i really don't think there's anything wrong with your pup - pups chase their tails because it's a bit of puppyish fun! Then they grow up & most either stop completely or just do it occasionally in a fit of youthful play!

It only becomes a 'problem' if it becomes obsessive, ie every hour of the day or night.

We stopped Dempsey doing it because we were aware of the tendency in EBTs for obbsessive compulsive disorder. He still chased his tail, but we only allowed a few 'turns' before we stopped him. He grew out of it very quickly, although he'll still sometimes 'spin' a bit! Big Grin

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Post by woothenoo Tue May 17 2011, 12:36

Thanks Caryll........... I dont think anyone meant any harm and maybe I was over sensitive, but the thought of my wee angel having any kind of problems, especially of the neurological kind, really upset me no end....... I cant imagine life without her now and the idea of her suffering, or not realising her full potential makes me sad..........
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Post by Nosipho Tue May 17 2011, 13:43

Puppies play, chasing her tail is playing, dont worry shes not going to start hearing voices or anything similar!

What has been referred to is compulsive tail chasing, look at the following links

http://www.btneuro.org/?page_id=33
http://www.btneuro.org/?page_id=35

http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/behaviourproblems/tailchase.html

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Post by shane dee Tue May 17 2011, 23:56

sorry Wendy for been insensitive or if i offended you, but tail chasing if its compulsive is a sign of a neurological health problem, but im sure jess will be grand if you nip it in the bud at an early age.
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Post by woothenoo Wed May 18 2011, 10:01

Over the last two days have told Jess off every time she has even looked at her tail, and she seems to be taking on board that she cant do it. Hopefully thats an end to that little episode...............
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Post by Guest Wed May 18 2011, 10:14

Take care not to overdo it. It is a natural thing for a pup to do - just not to excess!

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Post by janey Wed May 18 2011, 10:15

My first was like a whirlwind when she chased her tail Laughing
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Post by Nosipho Wed May 18 2011, 11:28

Its only when the tail chasing becomes obsessive to the point that the dog collapses of exhaustion, or when its gets stressed/over stimulated and automatically starts tail chasing. Puppy play is not the same! I mean look at the bull terriers in the examples above. One of them spent 3 hours at a time tail chasing and exausted itself so much it died, im pretty sure your pooch isnt displaying any of these symptoms is she? Shes just playing and being a puppy
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Post by Guest Wed May 18 2011, 11:38

Nosipho wrote: Shes just playing and being a puppy

That's it, exactly!

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Post by Nosipho Wed May 18 2011, 17:27

Aww and please tell me you've got some more photos of Jess. When I see her my heart melts! I think its those eyes!
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Post by woothenoo Wed May 18 2011, 19:00

Nosipho wrote:Aww and please tell me you've got some more photos of Jess. When I see her my heart melts! I think its those eyes!



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Jess at work with mum and dad, covered in plaster after helping to put it on the wall, then at home, chilling after a very hard day xx
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Love Struck I love the white socks! She is stunning
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Post by Guest Wed May 18 2011, 22:36

So gorgeous! I love those eyes, and the first pic is a cracker!

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Post by Guest Thu May 19 2011, 02:53

Nosipho wrote: When I see her my heart melts! I think its those eyes!

I thought so too, after looking at Jess' photos I'm convinced. She is gorgeous Love Struck

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