Not the best evening..

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Is about all I can say.....

Just taken Moo out for her usual tennis ball hunt. We get near the park and I see 7/8 kids (well 18/19) with a staff onlead. They shouted to put Moo on which I had already done and then proceeded to scream at me that the dog had already ripped another dogs face off today... and on and on, not what I expected to encounter we just diverted our route.

Moo was rather upset so we sat on the wall and I calmed her down, we carried on with our hunt. Unfortunately as we where leaving I was just about to put her back onlead and the same group of kids turned up, there dog was onlead but it all happened in a split second and it grabbed Moo by the face, I managed to grab there dog and put my hand in between the bite but I couldn't make it let go, quick thinking by them as there was a tap and they threw water over him, still didn't let go, I only had a fag which I pushed on the dogs nose and it let go.

Moo was squirting blood but the kids just rushed the dog off and apologized as they had forgotten to muzzle it.

Now Moo was off lead there's on, and I feel really really bad, she is pacing and has a cut on her cheek. One of the girls turned around and said she would do me in so to speak as I was crouched on the floor holding Moo, I pulled my phone out and said I would call the police and they all ran.

It has knocked my confidence and I am worried about Moo. Never been so worried in my life, I know she was off lead but she always is when up there. I feel I have let her down.

Yes, I am sure its something simple and thanks ladies, I will let you no tomorrow evening as we are out for the day after (assuming all is ok!)

Janey, thats awful what happened, poor you and moo. I have read the majority of posts on here but just wanted to check do you carry a personal alarm? I always carry mine and it definitely gives me some confidence. Huge hugs from me and my lot xxx

Thank you Cesca, no I don't but it maybe worth getting one, never even have a phone on me usually, its felt like such a safe place I have never bothered! Just shows it can happen at any time. XxXx

Mine was a Christmas present (that with Moll's winter light collar were my best presents!)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Helix-Personal-Attack-Alarm-138db/dp/B008CP9TJS/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1373396722&sr=8-31&keywords=personal+alarm+attack

Really worth while, I think every woman walking alone should carry one

I have ordered one thank you, now I just need to remember to take it every time! I really hope it doesn't happen again, but best to be safe as I never thought it would happen to me......

Hope the vets trip goes OK xxx

Brilliant! I've got mine on a thing you hang around your neck (can't remember what they're called - they break when pulled). I always remember mine as I've attached my keys and dog whistle to it.

That's the thing apart from poo bags I never take anything with me.........it has taught me a lesson, and maybe a thought to others that walk alone.

Yes I hope all is fine tomorrow, cheers guys, nice to have people to talk it over with Xx

Ooo hope everything gets sorted Janey xx

Oh Janey, just because Moo was off lead doesnt make this your fault. They shouldnt be forgetting the muzzle if their dog is that bad.
We all come across dogs on and off lead and i know like every1 here, you wouldnt of let moo off lead if you thought that dog was still about. That was just pure bad luck. These thugs must think they own the place. You have a right to walk your dog where you like, and you should be able to walk her and be safe with out threats. I would call the police, you were put in a terrible position. My heart goes out to you. Im sure Moo will work things out for her self, just leave pace, she'll be fine. xxxx

Mike wrote:Don't take Lynda she has a worse temper than me, she will end up battering them all with back handers  

 Now now lady's, but to be honest, it sounds very gooooooooooood

thank you, somehow you all restore my faith in man kind!

Will let you no tomorrow Xxx

janey wrote:I have ordered one thank you, now I just need to remember to take it every time! I really hope it doesn't happen again, but best to be safe as I never thought it would happen to me......

old sock with a quids worth of coppers in it just as good especially when applied accorss the temples  

as for the lump, your right to go to the vet as you just cannot be 100% sure and waiting a while only to find out its an infection wouldnt be good. when marley got attacked and had his muzzle punctured it swelled up alot right around the wound. i salt waterd it for a couple of days and it went down quick and the wound healed good after around a week. but you never know what the dog had been eating or chewing on prior to the attack so i think your right getting her checked out. hopefully its nothing and that stunning girly of yours make a full recovery very soon bless her  

oh my god this is awful, they were totally in the wrong and need the police to sort them out as it wont be long before the dog does serious damage. Don't know if you're dog went up to theirs or not but still the dog should have been muzzled if it does this. Does not matter that yours was off lead. My dog as a puppy would have gone up to loads of dogs, I kept her on a lead but sometimes you do get caught out and it should be okay.

Hope you and moo are ok, horrible horrible people

Vets was fine, he thinks its ok but I opted for antibio's as I am not happy. 7 day course and hopefully the swelling will go down.

He was most impressed with no limp as that was the last time I was there

Glad her limp has gone She will be all better in no time!

Pleased she's ok Janey

Thanks Dave & Kita x

Sounds like the safe route! Hoping for a speedy recovery!

The vet wasn't overly worried, but to be honest I would rather be on the cautious side Xx

Glad to hear all is well Janey - you have peace of mind now regarding the bite, great news!  

Great news janey, I've been thinking about moomin all day

janey wrote:The vet wasn't overly worried, but to be honest I would rather be on the cautious side Xx

im the same, its easier to fight a mild infection rather than something that has spiraled out of control. best wished to you both

Fingers crossed that the swelling is gone soon. (BIGGGG HUGS)

I'd have gone for the antibiotics as well.

Hopefully the swelling will start to go down pretty quickly now - get well soon, Moo!

Glad it went OK xxx

Smart to go for the antibiotics. Better to be safe than sorry. Glad Moo is recovering! I'm sure will the antibiotics it will be all better in no time! Also glad that you got the personal alarm, do not forget to bring it with you each and every time when you are alone. Even if it seems safe you never know who/what you will run into as you have unfortunately learned :/ It could have been much worse though and luckily both you and Moo are okay!

Thank you all Xx

Just a small update, its now weeping she is fine in herself, its not nice though, I have called the vets again and they said if its still weeping tomorrow to take her back as its more than likely an abscess, anyone have any experience with this?

They will give antibiotics if it is abscess and may lance it or help it along... It isn't horrible, just a pain and more meds.

So do you think that I should just leave it or get her back to the vets....?

Aww poor Moo, still not healed Janey. I would take her back to be on the safe side xx

It all pussed tonight and she scratched the scab off, it still looks clean so I am hoping its the infection coming out as she has been on the antibiotics for 2 days now.

My poor Moomin Xx

janey wrote:Just a small update, its now weeping :(she is fine in herself, its not nice though, I have called the vets again and they said if its still weeping tomorrow to take her back as its more than likely an abscess, anyone have any experience with this?

Dempsey had the same thing when he was bitten. Try to keep it as clean as possible (salt water bathes) because the puss will attract bacteria & worsen the infection. If you bathe it regularly it should start to heal itself as the puss is draining away.

She's on antibiotics anyway, isn't she? That should stop any nasties.

Yes she is on antibiotics now, do you think I should take her back or just let them take there course, never seen this before so I am at a loss......

Aww no poor moomin give her snuggles from us janey

janey wrote:Yes she is on antibiotics now, do you think I should take her back or just let them take there course, never seen this before so I am at a loss......

I'd wait and see. Let the antibiotics finish (it was only a week's worth, wasn't it?). As long as the area is kept clean & looks healthy (if you see what I mean) then it should heal now the puss has been released. Try to make sure that it doesn't get all caked up in the surrounding fur as that would cause problems.

The first time it happened to Dempsey was a cheek one (nasty boxer x dog went for him) and it burst on the way home from the vets! That healed very quickly afterwards, but he was already on antibiotics for it. The second time was far more complicated. It was when the Dobe mauled his ear & he had a deep puncture wound at the base of his ear. That turned septic & he was on anti-bs, but just wouldn't heal. It kept weeping buckets & in the end they had to cut away the dead flesh from around it, leaving a huge hole! That's unusual, though, and normally once the abcess bursts it drains & heals well.

Thanks, I shall see how it goes, my worry is I can't get to the vets over the weekend.....

Suppose I see later but yes its a weeks course, so maybe normal? Xx

Poor Moo Sending cuddles from me and Shéara xx

I'm SO sorry to hear this Janey, but not entirely surprised; I'd be more surprised if a dog bite didn't get infected. Thank goodness you started the antibiotics yesterday, they should start kicking in very soon now.

You asked if any of us have experienced an abscess from a dog bite, and I have already explained about my Dobe's ear, and Caryll has explained her experiences. Caryll's advice is excellent (as always!) and imo the important things are that Moo has started her antibiotics, and that the infection has found a route of escape, both of which will speed Moo's recovery and make her feel more comfortable.

I'd keep the area clean and let the antibiotics do their work; I'd hazard a guess that the worst is over.

Give Moo a big hug from me and a big lick from Kuchar ((((((HUGS)))))

There's an old saying "Better out, than in", and it's very true of an abcess - it's much better if it can burst & release the nasties so that the underlying skin can begin to heal.

Thanks both that has eased my mind a little, I must say that even now I think the swelling has gone down, thank you XxxX

Awww poor moo
.. only just managed to read all the updates ... fingers crossed now she on antib's she will soon make a speedy recovery ... like the saying " it will get worse b4 it gets better" bless her
. ((((((( big hugs )))))) to both of u xxx

The full scab has now come off, admittedly I had to yank the last bit off but it looks clean. Wish I had visited the vets sooner Xx

Ooooh, that's nasty! It does look clean & healthy, though.

Yes its worse than I thought, could only see puncture marks, didn't realise it was a fully blown bite. Its clean and not pussing now, thank god I got the antibiotics as it was the vet wasn't going to!

Not all abscesses need antibiotics as long as they burst, drain out & are kept clean. But you're like me - better safe than sorry! 

puss/weeping isnt as bad as you first think as it indicates that the body is reacting to the wound. all that crap is spent white blood cells sent to fight infection. while it doesnt look or smell good its an indication of a healthy immune system and the body is fighting the infection.
as you have antibiotics it shouldnt be too long before it stops and starts to heal.
just likeyour doing and keeping it clean will speed it up no end

janey wrote:The full scab has now come off, admittedly I had to yank the last bit off but it looks clean. Wish I had visited the vets sooner Xx

TBH mate that looks like a clean wound to me and i would be happy to see that over what could have been bless her. hugs from us

why would you pull it off for? you should of let it drop off