lacey

Just to answer a few of the questions on laceys litter. My whelping box arived today, little early lacey wasn't due till saturday. All pups have now gone to good homes, well in 6 weeks they have.. the fleece blanket and teddy bear where removed b4 night time i was supervising lacey and the pups all day. I new alot if not all of you would be negative and i did not have to share the pics but i did .. and carryl lacey will be getting spayed now. The vet said she needs 4-5 months recovery b4 she is done. The vet was happy to see the pups where all healthy. No negative comments from my vet btw he was over the moon to see laceys litter. He has a soft spot for her.. i appolagise to those of you who wher offended and to those that wasn't thanks for reading

Well im glad the box is sorted finally. You have had them in the crate for two weeks then? Or are you planning to rehome them at 6 weeks?

By the sounds of it, when they are 6 weeks!! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't they only 2 days old?

Hayley wrote:Well im glad the box is sorted finally. You have had them in the crate for two weeks then? Or are you planning to rehome them at 6 weeks?

Mattylee wrote:By the sounds of it, when they are 6 weeks!! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't they only 2 days old?

Yep my maths works out like this too , pups were "said" to have been born 2 days ago so easy working out means the "Breeder" is planning to farm out the pups at 6 weeks , or are you miraculously going to come back and tell us it is 8 weeks and you made a mistake and they will have their first injections and microchipping done

Letting the pups go at 6 weeks? Are you really so set on winding us up? They shouldn't leave for their new homes until 8 weeks old, preferably microchipped.

Congratulations, you have now become a back yard breeder.

In the netherlands the pup has to be 12 weeks by leaving the nest..

XajaStafford wrote:In the netherlands the pup has to be 12 weeks by leaving the nest..

Even better!

Excuse me if im wrong but isnt a back yard breeders sole purpose to make money? The dogs are going free to good homes and will be fully wormed every two weeks by my vet. If my purpose was to make money, yes 8 weeks microchipped and jabs would be good if i was asking for 250-300 a pup.. My soul purpose was to put smiles on peoples faces by giving them lovely dogs from pacey.. Id also got the 5 people up to now to agree to join thos forum so we can all watch them grow up but after some of these comments il tell.them not to bother.. Yes i am aware it was a mistake that is why i am only going to settle for good homes for the pups even if it means keeping them 8 weeks 10 weeks, how ever long it takes.. Up to now i am 200 out of pocket for vets bills, heat pads, whelping box, whelping kit. What i will.be getting in return is the knowledge that the dogs are safe. And i now have 1 of laceys offspring.... No! Money will be comeing my way from these pups. I work 5 days a week for that!!!

And yes been a bit nieve and silly.. And unexperianced if its unsafe to let the pups go at 6 weeks i will keep them for 8! I love evry single 1 of the babys as much as lacey does! Puppy factory? I think.not! More a mistake realy.. So thanks for your kind comments and now that the pups are already here thanks for been so helpfull to some1 with little experiance.... Just 1 question how to reputed breeders start out? Yes thats right they started with little experiance and gained it over time

Yes, but they also listen to advice, do all the relevant health checks prior to mating, research pedigrees to find the right match and gain as much knowledge as they can before the first mating.

Tell me, how many of those things have you done?

You're an idiot. An absolute idiot and i can't even talk on this thread anymore cause i want to just scream.

And for your information reputable breeders start off by getting good dogs, learning the trade and then trying it out for themselves, they dont just let their dogs shag and then give the pups away at 6 weeks old!!! X(X(X(X(X(X(X(

Its people like you who have this country in a shambles with the amount of dogs in the pounds and youre just adding to the problem to put a smile on someones face?!?! get over yourself you are a classic irresposible owner you dont deserve a dog!!!

Like i said. None and i dont intend on doing it again. It was a mistake and i realise that so now all i want to do is whats best for the pups.. Feel like a rite * so what im doing now is been open about how im going about it so like above if thers something im doing wrong ect i can have a bit of guidence.. So rather than calling and slagging me off ( wich i deserve just beleive me i am trying my hardest to rectify the problem.. Its so easy for me just just not come on this site but i like it. Hence why ive asked the favour of the people who are having dogs to take ther time to join the site and enjoy it.. My work mate, 6 months ago they found out his wife cant have children so they are having a pups. Already started preparing ther new home for the arrival. My other work mate, lives on his own loves the outdoors into his long walks in the penines and the lakes. My cousin, hes just took a mortgage out on a new house to move in with his girlfreind both realy nice people.. You get my drift.. These are not going to end up shelter dog!!!! I can understand your frustraition but whats been done has been done and im not breaking any laws? So we have established 6 weeks is to early.. I thaught that was the rite age.. So im going to keep them for 8 weeks and charge the new owners the cost of micro chips and parvo jabs.. But because i was happy to give them to good homes free they did not mind taking them and paying for the needles. . I do appolagise to those of you who have took offence

banker wrote:Like i said. None and i dont intend on doing it again. It was a mistake and i realise that so now all i want to do is whats best for the pups.. Feel like a rite * so what im doing now is been open about how im going about it so like above if thers something im doing wrong ect i can have a bit of guidence.. So rather than calling and slagging me off ( wich i deserve just beleive me i am trying my hardest to rectify the problem.. Its so easy for me just just not come on this site but i like it. Hence why ive asked the favour of the people who are having dogs to take ther time to join the site and enjoy it.. My work mate, 6 months ago they found out his wife cant have children so they are having a pups. Already started preparing ther new home for the arrival. My other work mate, lives on his own loves the outdoors into his long walks in the penines and the lakes. My cousin, hes just took a mortgage out on a new house to move in with his girlfreind both realy nice people.. You get my drift.. These are not going to end up shelter dog!!!! I can understand your frustraition but whats been done has been done and im not breaking any laws? So we have established 6 weeks is to early.. I thaught that was the rite age.. So im going to keep them for 8 weeks and charge the new owners the cost of micro chips and parvo jabs.. But because i was happy to give them to good homes free they did not mind taking them and paying for the needles. . I do appolagise to those of you who have took offence

We already had a conversation around these lines when you put the 2 dogs together remember . You realised you'd made a mistake then and wanted to put it right ........... remember that one too ?? So sorry but we are actually quite normal sensible and logical people , we don't live with the fairies . How on earth are we to believe a word you say as all your responses to any kind of criticism are text book pacifiers , telling people what you think they want to hear so that they come round and forgive you .......... well sorry but it ain't happening with me or quite a few other members you knew exactly what you are doing , what a bad idea it was and still went ahead , now you think you can play a trump card by telling us how good the new owners are going to be or giving us little sob stories toi get the sympathy vote . This is a Staffy Forum not an audition for the X Factor

So it's a NO from me

widnesbull wrote: The vet said she needs 4-5 months recovery b4 she is done.

Please take care. Many bitches will come into season 6 months after a mating! So that could possibly be in 4 months time. If she comes into season before she is spayed you must keep her away from all other dogs - another litter would be disastrous.

I've no wish to keep on and on at either of you. Just let me say that I hope you both think very carefully before breeding again. For one thing, Lacey & Lennox (was that the dog's name?) could both be carriers of L2 HGA, and that would make at least 25% of the pups affected by an incurable illness which could ruin their lives (at least another 50% would be 'carriers'). There is a lot more to breeding than just introducing a dog to a bitch in heat. The reaction you've had from several people here is because of the amount of times we've seen similar things & the amount of dogs that end up in rescue because they've gone as 'free to a good home' and then those people couldn't cope! Many of these pups/dogs get pts.

Xfactor audition? Do you think i need your permition to breed my dog and come on this site? Ive cum on here of my own free will not to be accepted by a bunch of people iv never met and probably never will.. I think you have got me wrong.. Sympathy.vote? no i just enjoy the site. And my words are true.. By the time i joined the site lacey was already confirmed pregnant i just told a few white lies to gain the reaction. and yes ther is risks just like ther would be with a profetional breeding.. And of course some top pedigree dogs end up in shelters aswell. So let me get this right now do you somehow think i will give these dogs away willy nilly to anyone wanting one? No i wont.. THEY ARE ALL GOING TO GOOD HOMES WEATHER YOU AGREE WITH ME OR NOT!! simon cowel, get your head from out of your backside it must smell bad up there

and carryl i realise it was a mistake. Yes i went ahead with it knowing it may not be the best idea but whats done is done. All i wanted to do was post daily/weekly updates for the pups growths, personalitys up untill there new owners taking over then they was going to join the site.. All i come back on this site for was to prove these dogs where going to good homes but i realy dont feel welcome enough to post anymore pics of lacey or the pups

We don't want liars and irresponsible owners here if they are not going to listen to more experienced advice!

banker wrote:Xfactor audition? Do you think i need your permition to breed my dog and come on this site? Ive cum on here of my own free will not to be accepted by a bunch of people iv never met and probably never will.. I think you have got me wrong.. Sympathy.vote?  no i just enjoy the site. And my words are true.. By the time i joined the site lacey was already confirmed pregnant i just told a few white lies to gain the reaction.  and yes ther is risks just like ther would be with a profetional breeding.. And of course some top pedigree dogs end up in shelters aswell. So let me get this right now do you somehow think i will give these dogs away willy nilly to anyone wanting one? No i wont..  THEY ARE ALL GOING TO GOOD HOMES WEATHER YOU AGREE WITH ME OR NOT!! simon cowel, get your head from out of your backside it must smell bad up there

Ok , so at least you admit you were lying through your teeth , its a start  . What you don't seem to appreciate is that this forum is about the health and welfare of the dogs not the owners , we do care somewhere along the way but  simple fact is if you don't show you care for the dogs then it is unlikely that people on here will particularly care about you.
If you hadn't lied about the situation and been honest that you had made a mistake then you may have got somewhere with us , it was quite obvious from the start that something was not right with your story and personally I could tell you were lying from the start , so why on earth would you expect us to believe anything else as being true
We make a comment , a criticism , whatever , you come back with a response that covers it because you think we are stupid , well we are not .
Basic facts
1) Irresponsible breeding of untested , unregistered dogs
2) Failure to cover the homes required prior to the breeding
3) Failure to cover the homes required by the time of the birth
4) Failure (obviously) to prepare correctly for the birth, no excuse that they weren't expected until .......  If you were having a baby would you go out and buy everything the day before the expected date
5) Failure to research the requirements and expectations of the pregnancy (or you would have had everything ready as you would know that it might be flexible)
6) Obvious failure to research care of newborn pups or you wouldn't be talking of letting them go at 6 weeks

Just to give me some faith in you and accept I might possibly have ever so slightly misjudged you could we please have a picture of the pups in their new environment (whelping box) that you have shelled out good money on . TBH I don't believe you have even bought one and are just feeding more lies because you think it will appease us
Personally I give you until 6.00pm today to come up with the goods and prove me wrong .

How are you marketing these pups as being available , Gumtree as a wild guess or just sticking with FB ???

You are more than welcome to point any of the new owners our  way , they are more than welcome to participate in our dog loving forum and learn all about the Bad breeding etc , lets just hope they don't need advice on any health problems that you have managed to create and can get wise to what is going on before their eyes

Last parting comment if my head is up my backside I much prefer the smell as to the smell of what's coming out of your mouth , now quite simple put up or shut up .

banker wrote: and carryl i realise it was a mistake. Yes i went ahead with it knowing it may not be the best idea but whats done is done. All i wanted to do was post daily/weekly updates for the pups growths, personalitys up untill there new owners taking over then they was going to join the site.. All i come back on this site for was to prove these dogs where going to good homes but i realy dont feel welcome enough to post anymore pics of lacey or the pups

What on earth did you expect? You admit yourself that you went ahead knowing it might well be a mistake - is that responsible? Is that thinking of Lacey? Is that showing how much you love her? No. It's thinking about how sweet it'll be to see her give birth & how sweet the puppies will be.

I'm sorry, but that really isn't good enough. You were given good, friendly advice & you chose to ignore it - don't expect people here to be happy with that!

Nearly time for there forever homes. I'm guna miss the little rascals, none of the people are willing to join the site as these pups are mearly mongrels and have not bettered the breed by inbreeding pedigree dogs with more health issues than these so called mongrels, this will be my last post as I was well within my right to breed my dog if that was my choice and I wasn't breaking any laws (if it's as bad as some of you make our survey things would be different ) after looking after these pups for 6 weeks and 2 days so far I will be sad to see them leave, although I am close to all there new owners and Will be able to visit with Lacey when ever I please the house just won't be the same without them.

ok this getting locked these back yard breeder are not worth out time... i will willing place an bet most of this litter will end up in rescue centre...

 well done to banker & widnesbull for adding to the staffy problem you really should be proud of yourself