Had to go on stupid detox :(

I've had a really bad stomach for a month (maybe slightly over) and I think we've finally figured out that I'm probably fat intolerant. Up until recently, I'd had little to no real fat in my diet for over a year. Recently I've started eating a little more and it seems like my stomach plays up after I eat stuff like butter, cheese and birthday cake. I know I'm not lactose intolerant, as I'm fine with milk and low-fat cheese.

I've been okay for most of this week, but I had a bad stomach the day after my birthday - when I'd eaten birthday cake. After that passed, I was fine for another couple of days. Then I had cheese with my dinner, then more cheese the next day in a sandwich, and got another bad tummy.

So I've been snacking on Water Crackers for 24 hours and I feel fine now. Going to start gradually reintroducing food groups to make sure.

I've been falling apart lately!

some meat in your diet will sort you out

what dave says thats why i just eat whatever i want

No meat for me, thanks! I'll stick with Quorn!

Eleanor wrote:No meat for me, thanks! I'll stick with Quorn!

quorn on the cob ???

Nom nom

I have tummy troubles too, bread is terrible for me

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Sazzle wrote:I have tummy troubles too, bread is terrible for me

So no fried bread , toast or bread and butter with your fry up

quorn is manky get some proper meat down you!

Bless you lot, I am a very fussy eater but can eat what I want when I want, usually a large bowl of pasta with a cheese sauce and bacon, my culinary skills are exceptional

Another here with bad tummy trouble, but bread is the main problem and I don't eat it hardly at all.

Life without a bacon sarnie is not worth living

Oh poor Eleanor, Sazzle and Inez - I do hope you get your tummies sorted out soon.

I do think that our systems get used to going without one certain substance or another, and then react violently when it's re-introduced. For example, my niece went vegetarian for about two years, then got over her pig obsession (which I think is what started her on the veggie diet) and ate a nice, big juicy steak. Oh BOY was she ill!

Eleanor, just a thought, and I don't want to scare-monger - but animal fats need bile to break them down and if you are a vegetarian or vegan and have lately started ingesting animal fat again after a break of some time, it could just remotely be possible that your gall bladder either got used to not having to produce bile and therefore the animal fat is passing unprocessed through your system and causing havoc, and/or you have a gall-stone which is preventing the bile from doing its job. If I were you I'd just google the subject to eliminate it from my enquiries!

>< to all tummy sufferers

>< having another bacon sarnie now, washed down with a pint

mmmmm i love bacon sarnies

And a cider!

I get that way but I think it's when I eat too much dairy. I can only tolerate a small amount.

Hope you get a burger down you soon Eleanor ><

ella wrote:quorn is manky get some proper meat down you!

I don't like meat.

janey wrote:

Bless you lot, I am a very fussy eater but can eat what I want when I want, usually a large bowl of pasta with a cheese sauce and bacon, my culinary skills are exceptional

Pasta's nice! I'm a fussy eater too.

Inezmaria70 wrote:Another here with bad tummy trouble, but bread is the main problem and I don't eat it hardly at all.

Poor you! ><

Lynda wrote:Oh poor Eleanor, Sazzle and Inez - I do hope you get your tummies sorted out soon.

I do think that our systems get used to going without one certain substance or another, and then react violently when it's re-introduced. For example, my niece went vegetarian for about two years, then got over her pig obsession (which I think is what started her on the veggie diet) and ate a nice, big juicy steak. Oh BOY was she ill!

Eleanor, just a thought, and I don't want to scare-monger - but animal fats need bile to break them down and if you are a vegetarian or vegan and have lately started ingesting animal fat again after a break of some time, it could just remotely be possible that your gall bladder either got used to not having to produce bile and therefore the animal fat is passing unprocessed through your system and causing havoc, and/or you have a gall-stone which is preventing the bile from doing its job. If I were you I'd just google the subject to eliminate it from my enquiries!

>< to all tummy sufferers

I don't eat animal fat at all I've been a vegetarian all my life as well, so I don't think it would cause problems after so much time. I've looked it up though and it's actually quite interesting! Thanks!

Hayley wrote:I get that way but I think it's when I eat too much dairy. I can only tolerate a small amount.

Dairy causes problems for a lot of people I think. Stupid dairy.

Mike wrote:Hope you get a burger down you soon Eleanor ><

Bleck! But thanks!

I don't like meat either Eleanor, I'm not a proper veggie I just don't eat meat!!

I've been a vegetarian for my whole life now, so the smell and sight of meat makes me gag.

Can totally understand that! I'm OK with it just don;'t like to eat it!! Gave it up at 13, was so fussy with it just wasn't worth bothering!!

I think a lot comes down to personal preference. Most of my friends couldn't understand why I don't eat meat.

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Dave

Yeah dave! You forgot the brown sauce

Mike wrote:Yeah dave! You forgot the brown sauce

Well, I suppose that disproves the theory that men think about sex every 7 seconds! It's bacon instead!

Eleanor wrote:Well, I suppose that disproves the theory that men think about sex every 7 seconds! It's bacon instead!

you just don't know how funny that really is Eleanor

Aww hugs for you Eleanor ><

Dave wrote:

Eleanor wrote:Well, I suppose that disproves the theory that men think about sex every 7 seconds! It's bacon instead!

you just don't know how funny that really is Eleanor

I have a feeling I'm probably missing something.

Darcy-may wrote:Aww hugs for you Eleanor ><

>< Thanks Hayley!

I'm feeling alright at the moment. Bit uncomfortable during the barbecue, but I think that was just because I'd been having bland food for 24 hours, so my stomach wasn't expecting anything else.

Mike wrote:Yeah dave! You forgot the brown sauce

ew no bbq sauce all the way!

Dave wrote:

Eleanor wrote:Well, I suppose that disproves the theory that men think about sex every 7 seconds! It's bacon instead!

you just don't know how funny that really is Eleanor

Ok, ignoring the makin bacon puns...........

We all ate meat up until about 15 years ago, although Eleanor & her brother never did actually like meat & rarely ate it. Even then we only ate chicken & processed meat - we'd given up beef, pork & lamb many years before.

We all gave up meat voluntarily - even as young as the kids were then they knew they didn't want it, and we've never missed it, so I don't think the lack of animal fats in the diet has any bearing at all on Eleanor's problems.

Basically she'd been on an exclusion diet for a year or more, really cutting all fat out of her diet (or at least as much as possible) and lately she's been eating a bit more. I just think her metabolism hasn't adjusted yet.

I think it's just the lack of fat in her diet and then the sudden intake again just has settled well

Yes. Nothing to do with meat, though!

never said it was said some meat would cure it

ella wrote:never said it was said some meat would cure it

oooh, no it wouldn't - she'd throw up!

janey wrote:

Life without a bacon sarnie is not worth living

janey wrote:

>< having another bacon sarnie now, washed down with a pint

You could possibly be the best woman in the world.

Dave wrote:Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon

That's definitely the best post on the entire internet.


Eleanor, what Lynda said about your gallbladder may well be worth looking into. Whereabouts in your stomach does it hurt? Having recently been told I've got to have mine out, I've been reading up on it quite a lot and with you saying that dairy products cause a flare-up, that does sound familiar. Basically, anything with fat in it causes the gallbladder to contract, and if there's a stone trying to pass though it at the time then it causes the pain as obviously the contractions are restricted by the stone.
When mine starts playing up, I get a very intense pain in the top left of my abdomen, just below the ribs, and a corresponding pain in my back (although today, it's been on the upper right, probably because I haven't eaten).

A tip though: Don't Google Image search 'gallstones', it wasn't pretty

Feel better soon

Hope you get your tummy troubles sorted soon >< I went through the process of exclusionary diets a long time ago to fix tummy issues - it isn't much fun while it was happening but was worth it in the end.

I was vegan for a very long time (now vegetarian after re-introduced myself to the wonderful world of milk, cheese, chocolate etc a few years ago) .... most people would be understanding of the no meat bit but could never get the no lollies part

What a lovely conversation! Everybody discussing my bowel movements!

Chris SW wrote:

janey wrote:

Life without a bacon sarnie is not worth living

janey wrote:

>< having another bacon sarnie now, washed down with a pint

You could possibly be the best woman in the world.

Dave wrote:Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon Bacon

That's definitely the best post on the entire internet.


Eleanor, what Lynda said about your gallbladder may well be worth looking into. Whereabouts in your stomach does it hurt? Having recently been told I've got to have mine out, I've been reading up on it quite a lot and with you saying that dairy products cause a flare-up, that does sound familiar. Basically, anything with fat in it causes the gallbladder to contract, and if there's a stone trying to pass though it at the time then it causes the pain as obviously the contractions are restricted by the stone.
When mine starts playing up, I get a very intense pain in the top left of my abdomen, just below the ribs, and a corresponding pain in my back (although today, it's been on the upper right, probably because I haven't eaten).

A tip though: Don't Google Image search 'gallstones', it wasn't pretty

Feel better soon

It's an upset stomach sort of pain. As in, you poop and it goes away. A bit like food poisoning. There's no stabbing pain or anything like that. Just the normal pain you get when you have a bad stomach, only it happens each time I have fatty foods.

Kell wrote:Hope you get your tummy troubles sorted soon >< I went through the process of exclusionary diets a long time ago to fix tummy issues - it isn't much fun while it was happening but was worth it in the end.

I was vegan for a very long time (now vegetarian after re-introduced myself to the wonderful world of milk, cheese, chocolate etc a few years ago) .... most people would be understanding of the no meat bit but could never get the no lollies part

Thanks! Yeah, a lot of people assume that vegans just survive off of grass and leaves. I think it's quite a difficult thing to wrap your mind around unless you actually do it.

ah Eleanor, we're concerned for you! and certainly don't want to embarrass you. but, since you bring the matter up (sorry if there's any pun there ) , I was reading that you were having pain in your stomach (stomach, as in where the food first goes when you swallow it), which is why I thought of gall-bladder, and not - ummm - lower down, which I would call abdominal. In which case, if it were me, I would want to rule out certain intestinal disorders (like coeliac or chrohns) and if the symptoms didn't fit, then I'd just relax and say to myself my guts aren't used to animal fats so either I bully them into submission or give up eating the fats.

listen to your mum - she's probably right, mums usually are! Hoping you're feeling better today ><

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The stomach pains are only when I eat too much spicy foods. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. The bad stomach I was referring to was lower down.

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Getting myself a doctor's appointment tomorrow. It's come back.

Really don't want there to be anything seriously wrong.