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Post by Sara n Ozzy Mon Mar 11 2013, 08:52

O my goodness, has anyone tried this head collar? it arrived at the weekend and used with an Ezydog shock lead, i now have a different dog. No matter how hard he tries to rip my arm sout of the sockets, he just cant, my shoulders are saved, hurrah!!!!
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 11 2013, 09:16

I haven't but a good few members have used the Canny Collar to good success. Good to hear it has worked for you. Maybe knowing this will help others Smile

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Post by Kathy Mon Mar 11 2013, 11:04

I have heard good things of this head collar and very pleased to hear that it has worked for you, thanks for sharing your experience of it thumbs up
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Post by rebeccaleanne Mon Mar 11 2013, 14:12

i have heard the same, i wish i would have of gotten one when tyke was young but he calmed down now and behaves and my arms dnt ache but glad its working and your poor arms can have a rest Big Grin
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Post by densil Mon Mar 11 2013, 14:15

I have one for Densil and must admit it does stop the pulling - the problem is Densil hates it and won't even go out the door if I put it on him, lol
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Post by Sara n Ozzy Mon Mar 11 2013, 14:54

Bless!!! Ozz doesnt seem to like it yet but its tough, its the only way my shoulders are going to keep in tact with the rest of my body, he does look really cute in it and very sorry for himself!!!
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Post by rebeccaleanne Mon Mar 11 2013, 15:15

have you any pics?
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Post by Sara n Ozzy Mon Mar 11 2013, 15:21

will try and do some but being a techno phobe not v easy for me to download but will have a go
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Post by willowthewisp Sat Mar 23 2013, 17:24

chester has a dogmatic much better than a halti but hes always trying to pull it off or he drags his face through mud on country walks the other day he did this and ended up with poo all over his nose and i had to use my coat to get it off as i had no tissues disgusting!!! it didnt put him off doing it again though!!
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Post by Sara n Ozzy Sun Mar 24 2013, 19:09

i did make a mistake as i thought teh collar was too tight so I loosened it, MISTAKE, he saw another dog, wriggled and got out of is, legged it after the dog but luckily he didnt do anything to the other dog, he's not keen on other dogs!!!, its all sorted out now, he's still not keen on the collar but he's gettng used to is and much better behaved
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 24 2013, 19:11

These things happen, you dealt with it well by the sounds of it. Glad it's working for you otherwise Smile

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Post by densil Mon Mar 25 2013, 07:42

Sara n Ozzy wrote:i did make a mistake as i thought teh collar was too tight so I loosened it, MISTAKE, he saw another dog, wriggled and got out of is, legged it after the dog but luckily he didnt do anything to the other dog, he's not keen on other dogs!!!, its all sorted out now, he's still not keen on the collar but he's gettng used to is and much better behaved

I was told by the dog trainer that the halti type collars need to be done up pretty tight - although enough room to get a couple of fingers under, because they cover the pressure points just behind the ears and can actually calm a dog down.
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Post by Galadriel Mon Mar 25 2013, 16:46

I'm not a fan TBH as most dogs find them aversive, not to mention they can cause neck injuries. I think front clipping harnesses are much kinder and safer for a pulling dog.

If you are going to use one though, you should make sure it's clipped to a collar or harness as headcollars are easy to get out of as you discovered! Smile

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Post by Lizzie Mon Mar 25 2013, 16:58

I bought a dogmatic for Harry about 2 weeks ago but he hates it. He just screws his face up and looks really upset. Sad

Unfortunately he can get it off as well, which kind of makes it pointless (unless im doing something wrong of course.

I agree with Galadriel about the front clipping harnesses. I have a Ttouch harness with a d ring on front and on the back so I can clip a double ended lead to both when I need Harry to walk to heel, and then just use one when he can have more space. Find he doesn't pull on that. Smile

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Post by Galadriel Mon Mar 25 2013, 17:06

Lizzie wrote:I bought a dogmatic for Harry about 2 weeks ago but he hates it. He just screws his face up and looks really upset. Sad

Unfortunately he can get it off as well, which kind of makes it pointless (unless im doing something wrong of course.

I agree with Galadriel about the front clipping harnesses. I have a Ttouch harness with a d ring on front and on the back so I can clip a double ended lead to both when I need Harry to walk to heel, and then just use one when he can have more space. Find he doesn't pull on that. Smile

Those ttouch ones are great and they don't restrict their movement like those non-pull ones that have a strap across the front Smile

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Post by willowthewisp Mon Mar 25 2013, 18:20

chester has a leather dogmatic and even if he does pull it off its still attached round his neck and to the lead so i still have control of him! i did when i first got dogmatic take the attachment off my halti that was an extra for collar to halti but found it was not needed so maybe you need something like that
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 25 2013, 21:36

yep we love the dogmatic here to Smile

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Post by densil Tue Mar 26 2013, 18:11

If I use a halt//head collar I also use a harness and a double ended lead, so that I have 2 points of attachment.
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