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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 16:47

Ok my staff is 12 years old ,and now he is going to the loo on my electic rad in the kitchen (why when he has a dog flap in the door) i am thinking his mind is going ,not only that what if he sets fire to the house , need some advice asap ,do i go to the vets and have him put down

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Post by Mark Tue Jan 15 2013, 17:11

would not go that far to have him put down. You could move the radiator to see if he still pees in the same place. They do get a bit like that when they get old but no way would i even consider destroying him unless he was terminally ill or in serious pain. Could also remind him the flap is there for him too
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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 17:37

Wendy and Mark wrote:would not go that far to have him put down. You could move the radiator to see if he still pees in the same place. They do get a bit like that when they get old but no way would i even consider destroying him unless he was terminally ill or in serious pain. Could also remind him the flap is there for him too
I hear what you are saying he has arthritis but dont think that is the prob ,he will not go for walks anymore ,if he does and has done he will slip the lead and go home cross a busy road (lucky he has not been knocked down) so no more walk with him ! confused

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Post by Mark Tue Jan 15 2013, 17:38

does he wear a harness how does he get off that? I would take him to the vet for advice
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Post by janey Tue Jan 15 2013, 17:45



I would pop to the vets, get him an MOT and make sure all is ok things do change the older they get Xx
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:00

are you walking him?

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Post by rescuestaffords Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:02

he might have a bladder infection?

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:03

sound to me you notwalking it doesn't matter if he doesn't want to walk he as too or he going to do what hes doing now if it only for 30mins 4 times day

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Post by Andy Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:12

kennetbarble wrote:do i go to the vets and have him put down

kennetbarble wrote:he will slip the lead and go home cross a busy road (lucky he has not been knocked down) so no more walk with him ! confused

Are you for real !! Straight Face Rolling Eyes
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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:20

you taking the *

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Post by Andy Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:26

Your saying you dont take a dog out cus he will slip his lead, and ask if you should have him pts to stop him peeing up the rad !!!! ... not me takin the p!ss mate Laughing
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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:36

You got some probs mate (it owners like you we do not need) we need to meet

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:39

you just made yourself look like a right plonker!! Straight Face

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:40

dont moan about your dog if your not walking him just use some common sense for god sake!!

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Post by Andy Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:42

at wits end ... jog on mate Rolling Eyes
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Post by janey Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:46




12 years old is not the over the hill yet, Moo was playing with her bud today who is 12 (spaniel) just had to have the sister PTS as she had cronic arthritis & tumors, so peeing against a radiator is not much to be phased by.

He needs to be walked, in this weather they all can be stubborn, get a jacket on him and drive him somewhere new.

There isn't much point stating your thinking of having him PTS, and not expect to get negative feed back.

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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 18:51

janey wrote:


12 years old is not the over the hill yet, Moo was playing with her bud today who is 12 (spaniel) just had to have the sister PTS as she had cronic arthritis & tumors, so peeing against a radiator is not much to be phased by.

He needs to be walked, in this weather they all can be stubborn, get a jacket on him and drive him somewhere new.

There isn't much point stating your thinking of having him PTS, and not expect to get negative feed back.

thank you some help at last!

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:04

sorry but I can understand people 's reactions , I'm quite inexperienced by comparison to some but you will get accidents as they get older and I have been through it myself 3 times with dog and 1 time with a cat and we persevered. They give you so much over the years it's not so much to give some back.
Your dog may well not be at that stage yet anyway and as mentioned it may be a water infection causing these mishaps

As far as the walking is concerned , invest in a harness and then there is no lead slipping to worry about

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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:10

Dave wrote:sorry but I can understand people 's reactions , I'm quite inexperienced by comparison to some but you will get accidents as they get older and I have been through it myself 3 times with dog and 1 time with a cat and we persevered. They give you so much over the years it's not so much to give some back.
Your dog may well not be at that stage yet anyway and as mentioned it may be a water infection causing these mishaps

As far as the walking is concerned , invest in a harness and then there is no lead slipping to worry about
thank you too ,so better that the so called mods

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:11

I am a mod Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:13

I think you'll find that Dave is a mod. As am I.

I would thank you to keep a civil tongue in your head. You come on here asking if you should have your dog pts because he's peeing on the radiator & you expect polite responses? Think on.

That dog has given you 12 years of (probably) inswerving loyalty. The least you can do is be patient with him in his old age.

Take him to the vet by all means, but not to have him pts - take him so that the vet can make sure he's healthy!

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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:20

AND cus your a mod that means you no every think ,ok when my dog pees on the rad tonight and sets fire to the house i will blame you ,thats it what you are saying ,or should i talk him out for a walk before he wees on the rad !

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:24

Firstly I am an electrician so I can advise you on that , providing your rad is in safe working order and he is not peeing inside it then you have nothing to worry about , but you could try moving it to somewhere he can't reach

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:26

kennetbarble wrote:AND cus your a mod that means you no every think ,ok when my dog pees on the rad tonight and sets fire to the house i will blame you ,thats it what you are saying ,or should i talk him out for a walk before he wees on the rad !

What rubbish! What we're saying is that you don't necessarily need to be thinking about putting him to sleep!

Why not try restricting him to a room without a radiator? What about turning that particular radiator off?

Think about what you're saying, please.

Just because I'm a mod doesn't mean I know everything, but as I said, you've come on here saying 'should I take him to the vets to be pts' & then you're rude to people who have answered you. What do you expect us to say? "Yes, have him destroyed - after all, there's nothing you can do to stop him peeing on the radiator"?

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Post by Kathy Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:31

Do you have a garden you could let him out into so he could pee there ?

We use a harness for walking Rocky with his lead attached to this. The harness is the Ezydog one which I got from Jolleys for about £17.00 you can also get them online from Amazon as in the link below for about the same price. We have the large size for Rocky:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EzyDog-Classic-Chestplate-Harness-Large/dp/B002QA4VMA/ref=sr_1_22?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1358278075&sr=1-22
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 19:33

I'm not an electrician, but I can't see why a dog weeing on a radiator would set the house on fire?

I'm just gessing here, but I think your old dog is just not liking this cold damp weather, with his arthritis and everything, so is doing his wees as near as he feels able to braving the great outside.

Could you or others in your household just take him out into your garden once in a while (like you would if he were a puppy) and if he does wee out there, praise him, just so he remembers where he should go.


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Post by kennetbarble Tue Jan 15 2013, 20:06

i think people don't read ,he has a dog flap open 24/7 the rad is mains power ie /240 volts ,sorry i do not have gas heating ,as for the put him to sleep well sorry my life comes first as do my grand kids how ever i will take him out late at night if that works ,but don't put me down mods i have had dogs for years never have any peeing in the kitchen let alone on electric rads so keep stum and grow up

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 20:12

I appreciate that we haven't given you the answers you seemed to want, but don't tell us to keep stum & grow up when you have asked a question!

Maybe none of your other dogs have peed where they shouldn't, but they are all different, the same as all humans are different. Have you thought that he may be going slightly senile? Or he might have a bladder or other infection? Have you thought that, at his age & with a touch of arthritis the thought of going outside in the cold was just too much for him?

How many times has he done this & what did you clean the radiator with?

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 15 2013, 20:29

the problem is he not getting walked!! i will put money he not getting let out enough else so he doesn't have any where else to wee.

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Post by Mark Tue Jan 15 2013, 20:43

im finding it hard to understand why your having trouble with him. Owning a dog takes effort and time. If your not prepared to give your dog that then its time to re home him with someone that has the patience and time to deal with a loyal old dog. You have to change things to accommodate his old age been said in previous posts its not hard to turn the rad off or change his room etc. I cant beleive you want to put him down because he is old angry
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 20:50

Ok - you have an electric radiator in the kitchen and your old dog has taken to weeing against it. I'm guessing this is a stand-alone radiator?

The simple answer is to remove the radiator, if you are concerned about the weeing causing a shorting and therefore fire risk (although modern electric circuits should trip out immediately if there is a short). That should give you peace of mind regarding the fire risk.

Old dogs, like old people, get arthritis - could it be that your dog cannot negotiate the dog flap any more? Or as I mentioned before, it could be that the effort of getting through the dog flap into a cold wet world is just a bit too much for him. In which case, treat him like you would a puppy and put papers down for him to wee on. We all have to make adjustments for old creatures - dogs as well as humans.

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Post by janey Tue Jan 15 2013, 20:53



Young dogs get arthritis too, doesn't stop me dragging her out the door Big Grin
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 15 2013, 21:19

Perhaps its too cold for him and that flares his ailments. Does he have a coat? Even if you take your dog out of the house for a few mins to pee then back in the problem will stop. He may not like walking cause of the arthritis (is he on meds for that?) but it doesn't mean you should not take him out of the house and make him walk even a little to use the toilet.

Calm your tone down and see it from our perspective, your first post here is asking "should i put my dog down cause it pees inside"


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Post by Jackieb Tue Jan 15 2013, 21:33

I'd take him for an MOT at the vets, see what his issues are (if any) and then u will be better armed on how to accommodate them.

A good vet won't PTS a dog willy nilly. As a responsible owner he is ur responsibility and maby in his twilight years u need to make adjustments or allowances for him. He dosent know what electricity or radiators is.., so it's upto u to make his area safe.

Exercise is great for all dogs, not only physically but mental stimulation is fab.

Make sure his collar or harness is secure, fun walks...take some treats too.

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Post by janey Tue Jan 15 2013, 21:44



Hydrotherapy pools are great for exercise if he doesn't enjoy the cold weather Smile
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Post by Keith Wed Jan 16 2013, 16:50

Sounds like it's a hardwired radiator.
If that's the case, I would personally get a properly qualified electrician in to isolate it.
I'd then get a lead out and take the dog outside for a wee every hour if he's reluctant to go himself.
Then I'd take him to the vets to have a check-up.
Then I'd get him a winter coat and see what I could do about walking him.
I'd use a harness if he slips his collar.
Should get all that done for 100 quid without destroying the dog.
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Post by kennetbarble Thu Jan 17 2013, 17:41


I do apologize to anyone i have upset ,no way will i have kain pts (stress and things kicked off ) so he is fine and i have put the rad on the worktop ,so he can not wee on it so far so good ,he will still not go out for a walk but as some won said maybe he is in pain (old age ) what ever he has a garden to do his biz etc

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Post by janey Thu Jan 17 2013, 17:42



Thats a good update Smile long may it continue
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Post by Kathy Thu Jan 17 2013, 17:58

Thank you for the up date,
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 17 2013, 22:33

Good to hear - thanks for letting us know Kain is safe.

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 17 2013, 22:35

Thanks so much for letting us know!

Don't be a stranger! Big Grin

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