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Post by Nosipho Thu Oct 25 2012, 11:43

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222724/Titchmarsh-savages-dog-trainer-caused-TV-outcry-unconventional-techniques-rehabilitate-ill-disciplined-dogs.html

Whats interesting is the comments and red/green arrows. Obviously a lot more people in support of hismethods than against it. I do believe that his theory is correct but in practice he doesn't need to be so confrontational or physical with the dogs.
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 25 2012, 11:53

Sorry, still don't like him or his methods.

In the clip I saw he really didn't answer any of Titchmarsh's questions. He avoided them & therefore justifies himself.

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Post by Kathy Thu Oct 25 2012, 12:25

He's still not winning me over either Caryll, Rocky is a pet and a dog and yes he is part of our family and after some reward based training has become a well mannered/behaved member of that family.
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Post by Rachel33 Thu Oct 25 2012, 12:36

I'm studying all different types of training at university at the moment, and Cesar's name comes up time and time again. I would never use his methods on my own dogs, and there is a lot that I disagree with; I don't think he needs to be anywhere near so physical with dogs, especially as he says himself that it's all down to "energy."

I've seen people that have watched his tv programme and beaten the crap out of their dogs because you can't see how hard his "touches" are through a television screen and it is ill advice to novice dog owners. However I think the basis to his theories are okay e.g exercise, discipline, affection but that's as far as it goes IMO.
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Post by PygmyParrot Thu Oct 25 2012, 12:41

He completely forgets one very important thing imo, this is aside from him being so physical with dogs (that from some of the videos already suffer from fear aggression!?) and that is that dogs know we are not dogs. Fact. This in itself means that a lot of his methods are wrong. I'm sure many people have had success with using some of his ideas, but I am not a fan I'm afraid.
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 25 2012, 13:06

I find him a bit too aggressive although I understand his theory. In some ways his methods are what my Grandad would have said was to break the dogs spirit which doesn't seem right.

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Post by Panda Thu Oct 25 2012, 21:12

I agree with Caryll.

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Post by mickgill Fri Oct 26 2012, 18:31

Watched him once he kicked a dog i wont watch him again .
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Post by bullsmommy1 Fri Oct 26 2012, 23:08

It was appalling. Disgusting treatment by Alan, To of been invited onto his chat show and then to be unexpectedly cornered with Questions like that was shocking. To be criticised by someone who isn't qualified to work with dogs, has no clue about training a dog was disgraceful. Bad host. Very Ill mannered. Totally clueless when it comes dogs.
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 27 2012, 01:14

bullsmommy1 wrote:It was appalling. Disgusting treatment by Alan, To of been invited onto his chat show and then to be unexpectedly cornered with Questions like that was shocking. To be criticised by someone who isn't qualified to work with dogs, has no clue about training a dog was disgraceful. Bad host. Very Ill mannered. Totally clueless when it comes dogs.

You really won't have a word said about him, will you? Titchmarsh asked questions a lot of ordinary people in the street wanted to hear the answers to. Milan avoided answering any of them. "It's a touch" he said. IT'S A PUNCH!

Can you really condone the way he kicks & punches dogs?

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Post by roz w Sat Oct 27 2012, 02:25

i used to love watching his programmes and was amazed at how he used to get badly behaved dogs to become well trained ...until that was i saw the episode of (i cant remember the breed ) a big black dog and he was trying to get the dog to leave the family cats alone , at the time all i kept thinking was why did the owner not look very happy until i saw zoomed in parts on youtube and it showed he was using a shock collar , no where on the episode did it say he was using this and from then on i have been a little wary . ON the other hand though i think he has a lot of valid points ...badly behaved dogs are because owners let them get away with too much i.e dont make the wait for their food or dont give them enough exercise .

i then started watching victoria stillwell and i like her a lot .

but then i watched that clip of Alan Titchmarsh and that so called interview ..well it wasnt one it was just completely attacking , he could have got the same point across in a more professional manner but still raising peoples opinions and issues (dont like Alan Titchmarsh anyway except when he did his garening programme with charlie and Tommy)
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Post by mickgill Sat Oct 27 2012, 08:24

bullsmommy1 wrote:It was appalling. Disgusting treatment by Alan, To of been invited onto his chat show and then to be unexpectedly cornered with Questions like that was shocking. To be criticised by someone who isn't qualified to work with dogs, has no clue about training a dog was disgraceful. Bad host. Very Ill mannered. Totally clueless when it comes dogs.
No it wasn't people want to hear him answer these sort of Questions, he is a very wealthy man from training dogs but he uses brute force and for me and many others that is unacceptable, i now think there are more people against him than those that support him and rightly so .
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 27 2012, 09:52

roz w wrote:until that was i saw the episode of (i cant remember the breed ) a big black dog and he was trying to get the dog to leave the family cats alone , at the time all i kept thinking was why did the owner not look very happy until i saw zoomed in parts on youtube and it showed he was using a shock collar , no where on the episode did it say he was using this and from then on i have been a little wary .

If I remember rightly the dog was a black (or very dark) GSD, and it ended up peeing itself with fear every time it saw the cat - that can't be right, now, can it?

roz w wrote:but then i watched that clip of Alan Titchmarsh and that so called interview ..well it wasnt one it was just completely attacking , he could have got the same point across in a more professional manner but still raising peoples opinions and issues (dont like Alan Titchmarsh anyway except when he did his garening programme with charlie and Tommy)

I don't like Titchmarsh, I never have. But, the interview was a good one because he asked questions about Milan's training methods & insisted on replies. What's so wrong with that? Milan never gave a satisfactory answer to any of the concerns that Titchmarsh voiced - concerns that so many people want answers to, and which very nearly got the show cancelled!

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bullsmommy1 wrote:It was appalling. Disgusting treatment by Alan, To of been invited onto his chat show and then to be unexpectedly cornered with Questions like that was shocking. To be criticised by someone who isn't qualified to work with dogs, has no clue about training a dog was disgraceful. Bad host. Very Ill mannered. Totally clueless when it comes dogs.
No it wasn't people want to hear him answer these sort of Questions, he is a very wealthy man from training dogs but he uses brute force and for me and many others that is unacceptable, i now think there are more people against him than those that support him and rightly so .

Exactly.

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Post by bullsmommy1 Sat Oct 27 2012, 09:59

An interview is fair! That was by all means unfair! He didn't give CM a chance to reply.Twitter blew up with responses! Titchmarsh backed him into a corner accusing him of all sorts of things, yes he has more people who are against him. The same idiots who mollycoddle dogs I'm assuming. At the end of the day it was a disgraceful attempt by A.T to try and get millan to say he uses unnecessary force with his dogs.
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:07

The interview was fair. If someone uses good practice to train dogs then they should be able to answer questions/accusations without any problem. Milan didn't answer any questions that were put to him - "It was a 'touch'" was all he kept saying. I've seen several videos of that 'touch' and it shifts the dog in question - that isn't a touch, that's at best a shove, and with a closed fist it's a punch. Titchmarsh was right to do what he did. And I don't even much like Titchmarsh!

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Post by roz w Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:07

Caryll yes you are right it was the one with the black GSD and at no point did he say he was using a shock collar but if you go and watch it again and look at the collar you can see it and also look at what is in milans hand you can see the remote , it was this episode that changed my opinion of him up until then i loved him ,

i dont like dishonesty had he said from the beginnning i am gonna use this then so be it whether a person agrees or disagrees with the tools being used.
but he didnt and as far as i remember the dog still did not get on with the cats ,
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Post by roz w Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:08

for the record i dont agree with shock collars
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:15

bullsmommy1 wrote:An interview is fair! That was by all means unfair! He didn't give CM a chance to reply.Twitter blew up with responses! Titchmarsh backed him into a corner accusing him of all sorts of things, yes he has more people who are against him. The same idiots who mollycoddle dogs I'm assuming. At the end of the day it was a disgraceful attempt by A.T to try and get millan to say he uses unnecessary force with his dogs.

I've never 'mollycoddled' my dogs, but neither have I punched, kicked or shocked them a la Milan style. As I've said before, I know he loves dogs & has a certain way with them, but bis training methods are inhumane sit of the time & he isn't open about it. He lies by ommission.

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Post by bullsmommy1 Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:20

This episode where he used a shock collar without saying. Did the owner once ask Millan to stop, or not to use it on her dog?. Also you say he didn't answer titchmarshs question. He didn't have to. He doesn't have to explain his self to him. He didn't go on the show to be attacked. Surely if millan was SO cruel animal welfare would investigate him? I don't agree with shock collars, weight pulling raw feeding or lots of other things but I don't judge people who do those things, as its not my business. It isn't a kick. I use the same touches on my dog and it doesn't hurt him
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:44

He was refused entry into Holland by the Dutch Animal Welfare people.
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