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Post by clioracer Fri Jun 08 2012, 17:39

hi ive bought a staffy puppy shes 12 weeks old shes brown and white and every time i let her out for a wee people that see her say shes cross pit i was told by the owner shes pure staff i senn the mum and she looked like a staffy the reason there saying it is because her nose is like a red pinky colour and not black is it possible for staffys to have that colour nose id be very greatful for your reply thanks

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Post by Galadriel Fri Jun 08 2012, 17:45

It is possible for a staffy to have a reddish/pinky nose, it's called a Dudley nose and is considered to be a fault.

ETA: Is your pup KC registered?

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Post by Steve Fri Jun 08 2012, 17:46

it's very unlikely be a real pit.. but she could be a type... as long you bring her up right you shouldn't have a problem.. if anybody say pit you say cross breed Wink

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Post by clioracer Fri Jun 08 2012, 17:53

hi i will post a pic see what you think thanks for the replys

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Post by crystel Fri Jun 08 2012, 18:15

Hi she does look like she is a staffy unfortunately i have found that people are cross breeding too get unusal colours and light eyes, so she could be a cross but as others have said please don,t get too anxious about it remember there is no such thing as a bad breed just bad owners, bring her up right and she will be alovely dog, she is gorgeous, enjoy your lovely puppy x
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Post by Kathy Fri Jun 08 2012, 18:30

I think she is a beautiful dog, whatever she turns out to be I'm sure she will be loved anyway, dont fret about it.
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 09 2012, 01:15

She is adorable

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Post by roz w Sat Jun 09 2012, 07:44

the paws are not big enough to be a pit and her eyes are lovely and round ...ppl like to pass comments in the street and dont really know what they are talking about , i still get ppl saying in the street he looks like a pit but if you put next to one you can see he is way to small and has a much smaller build . Take no notice of em i look at your dog and just see a beautiful staffy
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 09 2012, 07:52

Hello and welcome to the forum from me and the kids Smile As others here have said
1) She looks lovely
2) Don't worry about what other people say , just train her right and keep her occupied
3) Don't mention pit and when asked she is a cross

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Post by Galadriel Sat Jun 09 2012, 10:47

She is a beaut! Love Struck

Breed actually doesn't matter. It's a 'pitbull type' that's banned although the APBT and Am Staff come under it. I've heard of a lab cross shar pei (parentage proven) be deemed as type. The law is so stupid, one dog out of a litter may be of type but it's littermates not. A breed like the Ridgeback could meet many of the below characteristics

"The standard used to identify a PBT is set out in the American Dog Breeders Association standard of conformation as published in the Pit Bull Gazette, vol 1, issue 3 1977 – please refer to this for the full description and also relevant cases20 as this is only a brief overview. Although the law does not require a suspected PBT to fit the description perfectly, it does require there to be a substantial number of characteristics present so that it can be considered ‘more’ PBT than any other type of dog.

• When first viewing the dog it should appear square from the side, and its height to the top of its shoulders should be the same distance as from the front of its shoulder to the rear point of its hip.
• Its height to weight ratio should be in proportion.
• Its coat should be short and bristled, (single coated).
• Its head should appear to be wedge shaped when viewed from the side and top but rounded when viewed from the front. The head should be around 2/3 width of shoulders and 25 per cent wider at cheeks than at the base of the skull (this is due to the cheek muscles).
• The distance from the back of the head to between the eyes should be about equal to the distance from between the eyes to the tip of its nose.
• The dog should have a good depth from the top of head to bottom of jaw and a straight box-like muzzle.
• Its eyes should be small and deep-set, triangular when viewed from the side and elliptical from front.
• Its shoulders should be wider than the rib cage at the eighth rib.
• Its elbows should be flat with its front legs running parallel to the spine.
• Its forelegs should be heavy and solid and nearly twice the thickness of the hind legs just below the hock.
• The rib cage should be deep and spring straight out from the spine, it should be elliptical in cross section tapering at the bottom and not ‘barrel’ chested.
• It should have a tail that hangs down like an old fashioned ‘pump handle’ to around the hock.
• It should have a broad hip that allows good attachment of muscles in the hindquarters and
hind legs.
• Its knee joint should be in the upper third of the dog’s rear leg, and the bones below that should appear light, fine and springy.
• Overall the dog should have an athletic appearance, the standard makes no mention of ears, colour, height, or weight."

Taken from http://www.defra.gov.uk/publications/files/dogs-guide-enforcers.pdf.

Note the last bullet point.

P.S. This is not intended as any kind of legal advice. I'm no expert, just FYI. Smile

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 09 2012, 10:55

Lovely pics of her, she's gorgeous Smile

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 09 2012, 11:19

Don't worry. She looks like a staff, although until she's full grown you won't really know, but if you bring her up properly & keep her well trained & socialised you won't have any problems.

She doesn't look pit to me. She's actually not brown & white, she's liver & white. Small difference, but all liver coloured dogs have brown or pink noses. Liver colouring is a fault in staffs, but certainly does happen!

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Post by Nathan Sat Jun 09 2012, 12:29

you will always get comments like that from the "street experts" dont worry about it. someone asked if marley had pit in him because he had pointy ears....didnt know if to just laugh or explain that pits ears are cut to be pointy.
Your girl looks very much a staffy to me, and a beautiull one at that Smile
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Post by Honey_moors Sun Jun 10 2012, 21:26

she is gorgeous! she looks exactly like Beau (also 12 weeks) just different colourings!! The street experts have told me that Beau is crossed with a Jack Russell!!! Luckily for me the KC papers suggest otherwise!! I am soo defensive about Beau so i know that sometimes the comments are hard to ignore particularly when they comments are happening frequently!!
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Post by Staffiesrus Sun Jun 10 2012, 21:34

She is lovely. As Caryll said it is usually hard to tell till they get older. Dont worry what people say, who really cares anyway!! The amount of people that called Bonnie a Pit Bull was crazy and guess what, she was an English Biull terrier and full breed. Muppets!! Your girl looks exactly the same size as Molly did at that age and she is a KC reg Staffie.
Again, forget about the muppets and enjoy your lovely pup. Its no-ones business anyway.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 10 2012, 23:45

tartan wrote:The amount of people that called Bonnie a Pit Bull was crazy and guess what, she was an English Biull terrier and full breed. Muppets!!

Used to get exactly the same with Dempsey, although not so much now he's mature! Rolling Eyes

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Post by micheled Mon Jun 11 2012, 01:58

she's really really pretty. Sweet face. I think she looks exactly like a Staffie just an unusual color.
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Post by Girly Mon Jun 11 2012, 08:32

yep, looks like a staffy to me too and a very cute one! raise her right and she'll give you so much love back Love Struck our little girl is only 18 weeks and already she is just so lovely and sweet and aims to please... they really are gorgeous dogs, good luck with yours and ignore the comments!
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Post by clioracer Mon Jun 11 2012, 09:20

thanks alot for all the advice i took her to be micro chipped ans have her second vax and when i was there i said about the red nose and they said its cause the color she is also her paws are to small to be pit thanks again this site is very good

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Post by dolly Mon Jun 11 2012, 18:46

what a beautifull puppy

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