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Post by judd2012 Wed May 30 2012, 08:44

Hi all...First of all, Judd and i are new members of this forum, and we got Judd about 6 weeks ago. He is now 15 weeks old and cruisin along nicely. Today he has developed a bumpy rash on one side of his back causing his furr to be slightly raised. I was in the back yard with him and didnt notice it then. About 30 minutes later i noticed his fur was raised a bit. It seems to have spread from the center of his back to his hind leg, only on the left side. It doesnt seem to bother him, but just thought someone might of experienced something similar. I will keep a close eye on him, and may have to take him to his vet for a check up. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Post by Guest Wed May 30 2012, 08:51

Hi and welcome to the forum

It may be an alergic reaction to something in the garden.
Are the lumps something simular to what my dog got?

https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t5687-lumps-on-blue?highlight=lumps

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Post by Guest Wed May 30 2012, 09:00

Hi and welcome.
It does sound like an allergic reaction. Bella gets similar lumps when she has been out in the sun and Millie is allergic to certain household cleaners and has the same reaction.

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Post by judd2012 Wed May 30 2012, 09:02

Hi there. Thanks for the quick reply. It looks alot like that, but not as bad. Did you figure out the cause???

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Post by Guest Wed May 30 2012, 09:05

Blue got his because he thought it would be a good idea to help our cat out to catch a rat. He must of got scratched and had an alergic reaction to it. It never bothered him it just looked bad.

With Blue I gave him half a piriteze tablet and it went down within a couple of hours but I wouldn't recommend that with your dog due to him being so young. I think Blue was about one and a half years old when he got it.
I would say keep an eye on it and if it starts getting worse then take him to the vet.

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Post by judd2012 Wed May 30 2012, 09:13

Ok will do. Thanks for your feedback. Doesnt seem to have gotten any worse, but will def take him to the vet if its still there by tomorrow.

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Post by Guest Wed May 30 2012, 09:40

BlueStaffBlue wrote:Blue got his because he thought it would be a good idea to help our cat out to catch a rat. He must of got scratched and had an alergic reaction to it. It never bothered him it just looked bad.

With Blue I gave him half a piriteze tablet and it went down within a couple of hours but I wouldn't recommend that with your dog due to him being so young. I think Blue was about one and a half years old when he got it.
I would say keep an eye on it and if it starts getting worse then take him to the vet.

piriteze should NOT be given to dogs .... But PIRITON (not the non-drowsy)can be, vets will give Piriton to dogs with allergic reactions.

Your pups young so i would 1st bath him, just in case what ever has made him react in such away is on his fur.
If you buy Piriton over the counter dont say its for your dog as they wont sell it to you.

As his young i would give him half a tablet in the morning and half at night.

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Post by Guest Wed May 30 2012, 17:55

There is no offical research into piriteze being unsafe for dogs. I think there was 1 case in which it increased the heart rate of a dog resulting in death but nothing to say piriton wouldn't have done the same to that dog.
I would be wary of giving Judd any tablets unless the vet clears it since he is so young. But giving a bath is a great advice.

How is he? has the rash gone down?



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Post by shaun staff Thu May 31 2012, 11:23

A lot of times these things can be caused by an allergic reaction to a flower or even insect in the garden. Keep a close eye and if it gets any worser take the dog to your local vets.

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Post by judd2012 Sun Jun 03 2012, 05:40

gday everyone...thanks for all your great advice. Well i took Judd to the vet and they done a skin scrape to check for mites etc. Nothing came up, but they gave him some advocate anyway to rule out any skin irritations. And he also had an ear infection as well. So he has to have drops in his ear twice a day...which he doesnt like what so ever.

I done some research on the net about toxic plants for dogs and came across some that i have in the backyard. So i spent all day getting rid of them all, just to rule out all possibilities. So hopefully we can get on top of things. If its not any of the above...could be his diet. Fingers crossed.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 03 2012, 09:20

Good to hear the update.
Now you have posted 4 times (offical deadline for pics is 5 Wink )
Good to hear Judd is on the mend. Keep in touch, and I wasn't going to mention it but if you could post some pics that would be great Big Grin

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 03 2012, 11:11

Hi and welcome from us and Suki. She hates getting eardrops as well. We will normally wait until she is asleep if they are needed.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 03 2012, 11:56

Blue loves them....but it might be the ear massage I give him afterwards to loosen it all.

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Post by judd2012 Thu Jun 14 2012, 09:48

Ok...Judds skin problem is still at large!!! It looked like it was clearing, but a couple of days later it flared up again. Prior to that i had cleared the yard of any nasty plants and stopped his wet food as i thought that could be the suspect. And to top it off his fur is falling out. He still has lumps but when i checked them they dont seem to be red at all. Please help!!!

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Post by Nosipho Thu Jun 14 2012, 10:50

My girls get quite bad allergic reactions in the summer. They never get these lumps in the winter just at around this time of year. Usually the hives just heal up and scab over. They will lose a bit of hair as when the scabs fall off the hair goes with them. Tali had a really bad reaction to some bites this weekend, when I went to re-cream them with sudocrem last night they were full of pus Sad Fortunately shes a star and let me gently express the gunk and put more cream on. It seems staffs are quite prone to allergies, mine seem to be triggered by certain bugs and pollens/plants.
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Post by Galadriel Thu Jun 14 2012, 10:51

With it being bumps, I'd think it's more likely to be an environmental allergy rather than a food allergy although he could still have a food intolerance that's putting stress on his immune system hence the ear infection and a food intolerance can make environmental allergies worse.

What do you feed him?

Did you change anything in the house that you can think of around the time the bumps started to appear like washing powder, cleaning products?

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Post by judd2012 Thu Jun 14 2012, 11:05

We havent changed nothing since we've had him. The bumps havent scabbed or anything...not even red, but seems to be spreading down to his tale. In some areas the fur is almost gone. If it gets any worse i will take him back to the vet for another check up. Pretty sure its not mange, as my previous staffy (RIP Boss) had it many many years ago, so i know what to look out for.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 14 2012, 11:15

BlueStaffBlue wrote:There is no offical research into piriteze being unsafe for dogs. I think there was 1 case in which it increased the heart rate of a dog resulting in death but nothing to say piriton wouldn't have done the same to that dog.

My vet told me that Piriteze is actually stronger than Piriton & is usually given once a day, whereas Piriton can be spread over the day in about 2 or 3 doses. Also, allergies can raise a dog's heart rate & Piriteze is known to do tha same, so you could introduce a potential problem.

I'd stay safe with Piriton, half a tablet twice a day.

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Post by judd2012 Thu Jun 14 2012, 11:39

Where do u get it from???

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Post by Nosipho Thu Jun 14 2012, 12:03

Piriton contains the active indredient 'chlorphenamine maleate' whereas piritize contains 'cetirizine' which is a different compound all together. Although it is rare for dogs to have a reaction to chlorphenamine maleate it is not one of the more effective treatments for allergies in canines. however I have used half a tablet or 5ml of liquid in the past and hives have gone away quite quickly. Unfortunately Tali is pregnant so cant have any meds Sad
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Post by Nosipho Thu Jun 14 2012, 12:07

And btw vets can prescribe both so it is not considered dangerous to give them either tablet, I would just err on the side of caution.
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 14 2012, 12:14

judd2012 wrote:Where do u get it from???

I don't think you can get Piriton in Australia, but any anti histamine with the same ingredients should be ok.
http://www.boots.com/wcsstore/cmsassets/Boots/Content/Products/Allergy%20Hayfever%20-%20CAT:%20A00000586/10084607.P/Piriton%20Tablets%20PIL.pdf

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Post by Floyd1138 Fri Jun 15 2012, 18:14

Floyd had similar symptoms, vet gave us medicated shampoo which cleared it up
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Post by crystel Fri Jun 15 2012, 18:25

Hi Not sure if this will help with all the other advice you have been given, But my skye has had outbursts of lumpy rashes not red just raised under the skin, after afew trips too the vets without much help i eventually worked it out that it came up after her walks in wet grass i use sudocream and aloe vera on the skin along with pirioton when necessary try that and see if it helps i would also advise you dry him well don,t leave him damp as skyes got worst if i did that, hope he is better soon xx
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Post by Kathy Fri Jun 15 2012, 18:33

Caryll wrote:
judd2012 wrote:Where do u get it from???

I don't think you can get Piriton in Australia, but any anti histamine with the same ingredients should be ok.
http://www.boots.com/wcsstore/cmsassets/Boots/Content/Products/Allergy%20Hayfever%20-%20CAT:%20A00000586/10084607.P/Piriton%20Tablets%20PIL.pdf

in Australia, Phernergan is safe ...

Also Polaramine

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Post by judd2012 Tue Jun 19 2012, 10:45

Gday everyone...just letting you all know that Judds ear infection is gone, and i think his skin is on the mend aswell Big Grin . A friend of mine gave me some medicated wash known as "Vetadine" We bathed him in it a few days ago and the raised skin/fur is nearly gone. And his coat is shiny as, and he seems happier aswell.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 19 2012, 10:59

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Post by Buster's_Mum Tue Jun 19 2012, 11:47

Buster has just had a lumpy rash come up within the last 10 mins! He has been out in the garden and I have just finished cutting the grass which he has been lay all over, could it be from that? I have taken a picture, but photobucket isn't working Rolling Eyes
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