Guide dog attack prompts Staffordshire Bull terrier ban plea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-18022431

our crap society strike again

If he was blind how does he know it was a staffy

because someone else pull the dog off

The school caretaker pulled the dog off his guide dog,

Where does that leave us

i think it's only take 3/4 attack on kid will get staffy banned.....

i blame our society for it, i will be demand NS be brought back if their parents cant bring kids up the right the government should do the job instead.

He is blind. How many nice, calm, friendly staffies has he walked past in his life? One attack on a dog and he thinks they should be banned. I know it would not be nice to have your dog attacked, and probably more so when you cant see what is going on, but banning the breed for that? I think someone believes the papers too much....

it's not just one attack is it, it's all the time soon then later the staffy time will be up because our crap society cant bring up dog or make them as weapons time to bring back national service round up kids and make them do 5 years in the army then they wont have time for a dogs and also teach their kids what right and wrong.

I mean one attack for him. I know there have been more attacks by staffs. There have also been attacks by other breeds of dogs, but they dont sell papers so arent publicised as much. With the amount of staffies about then the number of attacks isnt that bad, but people dont think like that. They read a paper and think that everything in them must be true and not exagerated (sp?). All papers and things think about it how many papers they can sell, or how many hits they can get on a web page.

blame our society instead because if staffy do get banned i will start a website and campaign to bring back national service

off topic but nobody in the news has said a bad word about the story in the daily star today about Natasha giggs and her dog du bardo (sp)and setting it on to people she caught in her garden and she stated (her words)next time i will not call my savage beast off if they come back

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/05/10/324-Natasha-Giggs-dog-almost-eats-intruders-who-attempt-break-in-at-her-home.html

i think she could get do when the new laws come out

IMO it serves people right if they are breaking in and get bit by your dog. Obviously it is different if it is the postman or someone that should be there. Im suprised no one in the press has pounced on her for saying that though. I wonder if it would be the same if she had staffies?

7 attacks a month,not all staffies i bet .anyway its the bloody owners my mothers jack russel was a little dog so are lots of others why arnt people calling for them to be banned!

* !!!!!!! i meant to say my mothers jrt was a vicious little git

because they cant do the same damage staffy and other bully breed can do

What about rotties and alsatians they bite more people ,look at the top ten dogs responsible for the most bites STAFFIES arnt on it ,lets be positive about the breed they are loyal loving family pets,We have just come back from France we took Olly people stopped us in the streets and comented on what a superb dog he is,kids wernt stopped from fussing him ,The problem in this country people believe all the crap in the news papers or the telly, i agree that a lot of staffies are owned by pathetic little weasels who try to look hard but thats not the dogs fault

they will also be banned too.. because of our shitty society

So in the end we will all carry dogs in handbags ,wouldnt it be easier to stop the 2 legged scum breeding

yep!

That poor guy & his dog. This happens far too often (no, I know it isn't always staff or staff crosses, but there are some staffs to blame - well, their owners, anyway) & I can understand the guy saying they should be banned. Unfortunately I bet he's never been introduced to some really nice, typical staffs.

harlou wrote:wouldnt it be easier to stop the 2 legged scum breeding

Yes, but as we've found on here many times, it's almost impossible to do that & the only ways you could do it would be far too expensive to police.

ugh breaks my heart hearing the should be banned there fab dogs! ive seen a few people at the council estate at the back have staffies and there so well behaved! ill always believe in it being down to the owners to train and keep them on a lead if needed!

the problem today there far to many people just don't have a clue about life and how to bring up dogs or kids i cant see this problem being fixed any time soon it will take something extreme to to sort out.

and the poor staffy??whats going to happen to it,stuck in the dog pound?is the owner gonna come foreward and claim it was his dog,and that he/she is a s...t owner?prob not and the dog will get pts

what about the poor lab being attack by a crazy staffy

im sorry i know labs are lovely dogs but since my one literally "turned" after getting his bits done i know im quite scared of them and i have seen a lab bit another dog in the park too =/ im guessing whoever owned the lab couldnt have trained it right.

lmjc90 wrote:im sorry i know labs are lovely dogs but since my one literally "turned" after getting his bits done i know im quite scared of them and i have seen a lab bit another dog in the park too =/ im guessing whoever owned the lab couldnt have trained it right.

but this was a friendly guide dog

steve its a terrible thing to happen to the lab and the poor blind guy must have been terrified and will always think every staffy is the same ,the owners have to take some of the blame here too,why was the dog on its own,did it escape from the garden,why was'nt the garden made dog proof?bad news all round.

i know even if its friendly i still get a bit nervous around them.

stella wrote:steve its a terrible thing to happen to the lab and the poor blind guy must have been terrified and will always think every staffy is the same ,the owners have to take some of the blame here too,why was the dog on its own,did it escape from the garden,why was'nt the garden made dog proof?bad news all round.

the owner just do not care that why we have problem today... it's going take something extreme to change that

I wonder if it had of been a poodle that attacked would he of called for a ban.

for god sake a blind man dog been attack!!

point still stands. it wouldnt be, and it would have been the owners fault. where as in this case its automatically the dogs fault.

it's society fault and it be the society fault when more breed are banned

Most of these attacks are due to every single owner of a dog now a days thinking their bloody Caesar Milan. Most buy a dog but forget to buy the most important part the blinking lease.

If a lease law was brought in and was enforced by the police stopping and fining you for walking a dog along the street with no lead, then most of these attacks on the street would not happen, as the dogs are under full control.

This poor guide dog got attack because some knob i bet thought the dogs leash looked better hanging round his neck as a fashion accessory.
And now because of one person actions we could all be dragged down with him

that a good idea denise and that would be a pretty east law to enforce i'm going add that to our list

Of all the dogs I pass when walking , there has never been one single aggressive SBT or SBT cross - all being walked by responsible pet owners.

I can't say the same for many other breeds - from little Russells to GSD & even a golden 'retriever - It's invariably a lack of training and acceptance of full responsibility of owning a dog by the owner.

but then we don't have a stray problem around these parts either

Deed not breed

Denise wrote:Most of these attacks are due to every single owner of a dog now a days thinking their bloody Caesar Milan. Most buy a dog but forget to buy the most important part the blinking lease.

If a lease law was brought in and was enforced by the police stopping and fining you for walking a dog along the street with no lead, then most of these attacks on the street would not happen, as the dogs are under full control.

This poor guide dog got attack because some knob i bet thought the dogs leash looked better hanging round his neck as a fashion accessory.
And now because of one person actions we could all be dragged down with him

Very good point, there. If all dogs were on a lead in the street we wouldn't get half the problems we get now.

i think it's a great idea get ad's all over the place telling people you could be fine or have your dog seized and it wouldn't cost billions to enforce i would love to see a law like that

Yes, an effective one that can actually be enforced!

For talking sake...say if there was a ban on our four legged loved ones, what would happen? Would the dog police appear at my door and demand that I hand over the 'criminal' dog (that has done absolutely nothing wrong in society), as she savagely licks them and then presents them with her ball to play fetch?!!

I also look at it from a different point of view, say if I had a brother who attacked someone and was then sent to jail...should I also receive the same punishment as I am technically the same breed, although I have committed no crime? (I have no siblings btw).

I believe that there are several factors in a dogs upbringing that dictates its behaviour, I see all dogs as different, each with their own personality.

What happened when they banned pitbulls was that there was a time scale to present your dog to the authorities to prove that it was not a danger & you were put on a register & the dog had to be muzzled in a public place & kept on lead at all times. The dog had to be neutered & had to pass a temperament test.

That's what would happen in any blanket breed ban.

If they did ban staffs i would be hiding lexi, no way would be presenting her. shes DA and i know shes DA so i know they wouldn't let me keep her eventhoug shes ancient.

As for the signs idea, that is a brilliant one. We need to think about how we could take that forward!

Denise wrote:Most of these attacks are due to every single owner of a dog now a days thinking their bloody Caesar Milan. Most buy a dog but forget to buy the most important part the blinking lease.

If a lease law was brought in and was enforced by the police stopping and fining you for walking a dog along the street with no lead, then most of these attacks on the street would not happen, as the dogs are under full control.

This poor guide dog got attack because some knob i bet thought the dogs leash looked better hanging round his neck as a fashion accessory.
And now because of one person actions we could all be dragged down with him

I would sign up for that, But I would hope theres some sort of stipulation that would allow Holly to play off the lead say in open ground, fields.

Caryll wrote:What happened when they banned pitbulls was that there was a time scale to present your dog to the authorities to prove that it was not a danger & you were put on a register & the dog had to be muzzled in a public place & kept on lead at all times. The dog had to be neutered & had to pass a temperament test.

That's what would happen in any blanket breed ban.

then I hope this never happens.

I only have vague memories of the pit bulls being banned here but were there many dogs involved? There must be tens of thousands more staffys than there were of the original banned breeds? I don't think staffys will be added to a banned list unless it was another publicity stunt for votes and you'd have a riot!!.Also now we already have different dangerous dog acts in different parts of the UK . I would support a leash law though if it was well organised?. There were/are areas in parks here with signs in green/red telling you were you could walk dogs off leash.

I think a leash law is a god idea, Billy is DA to small dogs, and they are always the ones that are off lead and running round, its like walking the gauntlet sometimes taking him out, we dont go to the park cause its full off dogs off lead

Same lynne, my favorite walk is in the forest and i am usually alone at it but when i meet anyone they are ALWAYS off lead and the dogs are running all over the place. i just dont go to the local park, its ina posh area and everyones dog on and off lead is a fluffy thing.

Lets be sensible ,how many staffies and staffie crosses are there in britain so then think how many owners there are whichever political party banned staffies would lose one hell of a lot of votes! anyway this is more hysterical crap brought on by the crappy british media,so just look at your dog and give him or her a big cuddle and a kiss cos they aint going to ban them
Ps did you know there are more pitbull type dogs in britain since the ban ,really effective ban!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11