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Post by Gabbiadini Thu May 10 2012, 10:43

There was a baby starling in my garden being fed by it's mother on the ground

Gabbi was wondering around as she does, but as soon as she spotted the baby she chased it, grabbed it in her mouth and wouldn't drop it

Now the baby's dead, probably either through shock, suffocation, or both

I'm VERY angry with her for the first time ever angry
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 10:47

No point being angry. She's just following her instincts. Sad All you can do is work on her "leave" command & hope she listens next time.

Dempsey has so far killed a squirrel & several rats, plus he grabbed a cat by the scruff & shook it violently before I could get him to leave it - luckily the cat wasn't hurt, just a bit embarrassed! Big Grin

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Post by Gabbiadini Thu May 10 2012, 11:04

Any advice on the drop command, she just doesn't seem to get it?!

She does sit-wait-lie-roll but refuses to drop Sad
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 11:06

just be firm and dont approach when saying drop it as they see it as a game and will just run off and you will make no headway

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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 11:06

Usually you have to offer somethign better. Get some treats and give her the ball or whatever she holds and have her sit and give her the treat and as soon as she drops the object to take the treat say DROP then repeat until you are saying drop first.

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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 11:10

It's a gradual thing, I'm afraid.

I tend to work on "leave" for everything - ie leave something alone, drop something etc. I start with saying "leave" quite firmly, but quietly & just gently move the dog's head away from what I want it to leave. Then treat/fuss. If you do that several times a day she'll soon learn to not touch something when you say it. Then, when she has got that, and she has a toy in her mouth, tell her "leave" and gently take the toy away. As soon as she lets go give her praise. Then give her another toy in return - preferably one that she likes even more than the first one!

Always give calm, quiet praise so that the dog doesn't get over excited & ruin things by being hyper!

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Post by Gabbiadini Thu May 10 2012, 11:11

Thanks guys
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 12:14

My two have had a squirrel and a couple of rabbits up to now, normally when they disappear in the bushes in the woods on our walks

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Post by Gabbiadini Thu May 10 2012, 12:29

Oh good, at least she's not turned into a violent animal killer... just a normal staffy! Laughing

We've made up now anyway Love Struck

Right, time to crack on with this "drop" command...
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 12:31

Caryll wrote:Dempsey has so far killed a squirrel & several rats, plus he grabbed a cat by the scruff & shook it violently before I could get him to leave it - luckily the cat wasn't hurt, just a bit embarrassed! Big Grin

He also rolled in a dead rat this morning.......... sick

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Post by Gabbiadini Thu May 10 2012, 14:10

Oh dear, I squirm at having to get rid of a dead bird never mind anything else!
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 16:32

She's a terrier. You can't be mad at her for killing a small animal. It's very sad, but it happens.

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Post by Gabbiadini Thu May 10 2012, 18:43

I realise I was wrong to get mad, it was a shock that's all especially when it was squarking in her mouth to be released...! I'm now prepared for worse to come Laughing
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 19:35

ella wrote:My two have had a squirrel and a couple of rabbits up to now, normally when they disappear in the bushes in the woods on our walks

But to your 2 thats just like me going into the Bakers and asking for my pasty to be warmed up Laughing

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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 19:49

My old boy killed a few magpies in his day but like said above its instinct cant be angry with em for following it Smile .. My old boy knew the drop and leave command but once he was ficsated on one thing and them ears went back there was no stopping him.
Once it took me 45mins to get a headgehog out his mouth!! lol .. luckily the headgehog lived!

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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 21:09

Gabbiadini wrote:I realise I was wrong to get mad, it was a shock that's all especially when it was squarking in her mouth to be released...! I'm now prepared for worse to come Laughing

Janey's Moo has had several squirrels. It's in the nature of a terrier!

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ella wrote:My two have had a squirrel and a couple of rabbits up to now, normally when they disappear in the bushes in the woods on our walks

But to your 2 thats just like me going into the Bakers and asking for my pasty to be warmed up Laughing

Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by janey Thu May 10 2012, 21:30

Caryll wrote:
Gabbiadini wrote:I realise I was wrong to get mad, it was a shock that's all especially when it was squarking in her mouth to be released...! I'm now prepared for worse to come Laughing

Janey's Moo has had several squirrels. It's in the nature of a terrier!

Blushing I was staying out of this one!! 7 I think................

@Dave Laughing
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 21:32

Sorry, Janey! Laughing

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Post by Ben Thu May 10 2012, 21:35

Mine all have prey drive. Natural to them... Cat... Didn't make it back over he fence. Poor thing, but it was quick. He worst was telling my neighbor.
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Post by Guest Thu May 10 2012, 23:09

Saxon hasn't killed anything yet, but it may just be because he is almost always on leash and when he's off leash it's in areas where there aren't many critters (the dog park, etc.). He pulled to try and chase pigeons a couple of times, but doesn't show much interest in squirrels or outside cats.

My mom's old Lab used to kill squirrels and chipmunks all the time. She even caught and killed a chipmunk after she went blind once!

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Post by CMR Fri May 11 2012, 02:13

don't ask your terrier not to be a terrier. expect it and avoid it if you want to but never get mad at the dog for doing what's natural to her.
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Post by Skye86 Fri May 11 2012, 02:25

Awww! Well, nature's cruel sometimes. Skye's not had anything as yet and she plays with cats, well tries. They tend not to like it lol
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Post by Gee Sat May 12 2012, 09:07

Troy likes to chase but I'm not sure he would harm the animal of he caught it? He got close to a crow with a broken wing on a field and just sniffed it.

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Post by Keith Thu May 17 2012, 22:28

Marley has no noticeable prey drive.
Gets within feet of dozens of rabbits up the fields at night - no reaction.
Just ambles along with his year-old stick in his mouth.
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Post by Guest Thu May 17 2012, 23:22

davemck3834 wrote:
ella wrote:My two have had a squirrel and a couple of rabbits up to now, normally when they disappear in the bushes in the woods on our walks

But to your 2 thats just like me going into the Bakers and asking for my pasty to be warmed up Laughing

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Post by Staffy lover Mon May 21 2012, 10:33

As I do feed the squirrels in our garden, Pixee has yet to catch one, they too quick for her so far. She does chase after rabbits in the woods, but has not killed anything yet.
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