#@&*$@* Jethro !!!!

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We are staying at a pals place and walked down the pub tonight for tea. We were gone about three quarters of an hour all up if that.Took the boys for a walk first, then locked them in their crates. Came back and opened the door, Jethro's crate sitting there wide open... empty !!! Somehow he got out and went berserk and he has ripped and pulled all the vertical blinds off in the kitchen. Our friend is renting this place...Tony doesn't realise how bad it is yet..he is watching Heartbeat in the lounge. Remember how I said Jethro has nearly caused a marriage break up..tonight is another classic example....Far out....!! I am not happy !!

Gizzi has a nervous disposition and I give her Valarian Root. Its a form of sedative but herbal.

I have also tried using DAP collars so they perm have the pheremone about them but it didnt work for me.

Gizzi is also and escape artist and her cage has 2 doors- I have one perm shut with cable ties and the one we use has climbers carribena clips to keep it shut even if she popped the sliders out the latch!!

She has calmed down since going on the valarian but we also added a herbal supplement into her diet called Calm Down- Its from an onliine store called CSJ Herbs for dogs, its really good.

Hope you find something that helps Jeth out with his problem xx

thanks for that Claire......you are lucky over there, there seems to be heaps of calming supplements for dogs..there are bugger all over here. I was giving him valerian tablets at night to sleep but they discontinued the ones I was giving him , and the only ones now are huge, and they are too hard to shove down his throat!
I will be tying him in his crate with cable ties from now on !

You can get Valerian from holland and barret on line, they do them in capsule form and i split them over Gizzi's dinner in a morning and again at night.

CSJ will deliver over seas hun, my friend gets them and she is in the USA.

Hope cable ties work

Claire xx

thanks again Claire..I saw some calming pills advertised on ebay from England and when I sent them a message about postage they said they couldn't send to Australia because of our stupid laws! GGRR!!
I will check out the ones above then . Thanks for that! XX

i just looked at CSJ's website and didn't see how to get that over here. can you post a link?

I just had a look and it said online orders only available in the UK ! Swines!

I liked the sound of that calm down too !

http://www.csjk9.com/range/

vanessa wrote:

I just had a look and it said online orders only available in the UK ! Swines!

I liked the sound of that calm down too !

http://www.csjk9.com/range/

bummer

I have just bought a bottle of liquid valerian root...smells disgusting, but I am going to put some in Jethro's food as of today. He gets arthritis powder everyday in his food, so hopefully the smell of his arthritis powder will disguise the valerian! Wish me luck!!

good luck

hope it works!

thanks Matt and Meg !! XX

no doubt I will give you an update later today!!

Valerian makes me sleep

Good luck Vanessa, hope it helps.

well...? what's the word? i hope something can be done for Jethro-for your sake!

Hi Matt.

Jethro was booked in for this Friday but I have had to cancel it and he is booked in a week today.. another 7 days to wait !

I typed in my dog is a nervous wreck in google..and breathed a sigh of relief... I am not alone..there are hundreds of nervous wrecks out there! ( 4 legged and 2 legged !! )

My vet is only working 2 days a week now..hope he isn't going to retire......nnnooooo...............

thanks for your concern, will keep you posted!

good luck at the vet's today

thanks Matt but he isn't going till next Wednesday now.. 5 days away..had to cancel today.

he was so well behaved at the rally we went to..dogs barking, kids screaming. people everywhere all squashed together.. and he took it all in his stride.

my grandmother had the same problem with her last staff Zook. he lived to be 18 years old, so he was.. a walking fossile by the time he passed away. he needed to be given some kind of drug from the vet because the sheer damage that dog did when left alone for even 10mins was shocking. ripping down blinds, chewed a hole into the wooden floor, ripped of gates, smashed through a glass window once. It was getting that it was dangerous for him too because he would rip his way out of screen doors and we were scared he would run off and get hit by a car. but if there was anything that could be damaged, it would be damaged by him. but with people, he was the sweetest sugar coated darling you could ever meet.

I'm scared Romeo is going the same way. As when he is with me he is a darling, i left him alone for like... an hour today while i went to the store to do my shopping, came home to find MORE wall paper missing!

vanessa wrote:


he was so well behaved at the rally we went to..dogs barking, kids screaming. people everywhere all squashed together.. and he took it all in his stride.

atta boy Jethro!

Romeo wrote:my grandmother had the same problem with her last staff Zook. he lived to be 18 years old, so he was.. a walking fossile by the time he passed away. he needed to be given some kind of drug from the vet because the sheer damage that dog did when left alone for even 10mins was shocking. ripping down blinds, chewed a hole into the wooden floor, ripped of gates, smashed through a glass window once. It was getting that it was dangerous for him too because he would rip his way out of screen doors and we were scared he would run off and get hit by a car. but if there was anything that could be damaged, it would be damaged by him. but with people, he was the sweetest sugar coated darling you could ever meet.

I'm scared Romeo is going the same way. As when he is with me he is a darling, i left him alone for like... an hour today while i went to the store to do my shopping, came home to find MORE wall paper missing!

wow far out.. 18 is an amazing age! Sounds like Zook and Jethro are related! When he isn't freaking out he is the most beautiful loving boy...

vanessa wrote:

I just had a look and it said online orders only available in the UK ! Swines!

I liked the sound of that calm down too !

http://www.csjk9.com/range/

Get someone in the UK to get it and mail it to you. May add a bit to the costs though.

admitedly off topic Vanessa, but i've been looking for that picture of you and Jethro in the garden with the portrait you have of him. love to show it to my mom. could you post that again? i'de be very grateful!

your wish is my command !!

the artist certainly did an amazing job that's for sure !

goody! thank you thank you!

glad to help !

saved it my computer this time, hope that's o.k. don't want to lose it 'till i show mom

fine by me.. Jethro will be honoured !

thank you Jethro! ><

Jethro has some serious quality! wouldn't seem right not to share it!

Wow - fantastic portrait.

Lynne a bloke painted it from a photo of Jethro. I got it done for Tony ( and me !! ) for our wedding anniversary last year.

spitting image

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Lovely photo! You definitely don't look like you've just turned 50! Has Jethro seen the vet yet? If so, how did it go?

Oh that's stunning. He did a brilliant job. I've been thinking of getting something like that done of Kita and framing it.

Pretty good shot of you too.

pixie79 wrote:Lovely photo! You definitely don't look like you've just turned 50! Has Jethro seen the vet yet? If so, how did it go?

agree

we see the vet on Wednesday..2 more sleeps!

that photo was taken last year so I WAS only 49 then !

i'm 29. have been for years

OK Jethro went to the vets this afternoon. I officially have a certified looney dog!
Richard said it was a combination of separation anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, old age and anxiety..what a mix!! And would you believe one of his dogs suffers from a similar thing.
After a lengthy discussion we are trying Jethro on endep tablets..a human medication for bipolar disorder. He is on one tablet twice a day, and just had his first tonight. Have to give it a fortnight and should see a levelling out of his moods hopefully by then. Richard said it makes the odd dog go abit aggressive..so because Jethro has such a loving nature I hope that it won't have that effect on him! Anyway if all is going well Richard will supply me with more tablets..he just gave me a fortnights worth for now. If that doesn't work he said there are other medications but one of the vets that work there is studying animal behaviour etc and is right into this sort of thing.... so he said I could see her if we have no luck. ..but I am hoping and praying the endep work!
anyway is a pic of him tonight watching me cook tea.

thanks for the update. hope the med works.

I hope the meds work for him!

Herman's just weird, is there a med for that?

thanks for your well wishes !

How could Herman be weird when he is so beautiful !!

lil' scheister is cute, but don't let that fool ya, he's mischevious at times.

Aawwww bless him

Hope the Endep work, in humans it is also used as an Anti depressant. So I googled its use in dogs and I ended up on a "baby forum"

I'm adding the link as there is one post that is pretty reassuring re it's use in dogs. Hope that's ok.
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t793634.html

Wonder what your vet would make of Kita's looney behaviour

that was interesting to read ..well Jethro is like a baby I guess ! He is MY baby!

hope he has the good results that the doggie did on there!

maybe you could try Kita on it !!

Trouble is she's not anxious or stressed, just lost and confused like she has "doggy dementia".
Doesn't help that she can't hear you calling her and once she's on a "Kita mission", you have to run after her to stop her disappearing.

I did read up on it a while ago, so I better check it out again.

Jethro is definitely going deaf....when he is outside I call him and he doesn't hear me but when I really yell his name he will spin around and look at me...and when he is snoring inside I can be right next to him calling and calling his name and he doesn't hear me..
His nose works well though as he always knows when I am getting his grub ready and he will miraculously appear in the kitchen !

Holding thumbs for you Vanessa

That's what amazes me too Vanessa.

Trevor's favourite comment - "can't see. can't hear, but she sure knows what her nose is for".

Mine is more like "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no..way!!! I know there's food here somewhere"