Indian bull terrier

by Indian bull terrier Thu Nov 24 2011, 17:44

Hi i am from India, my name is Deepesh joshi, i felt like sharing the pics of my Indian bull terrier, I feel this dog breed in India is been preserved as in form which James Hinks made. Hope you like it

Best Regards
Deepesh joshi
India

by **Steve** Thu Nov 24 2011, 17:54

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by Guest Fri Nov 25 2011, 04:26

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by Guest Fri Nov 25 2011, 05:24

hi there and welcome..can't wait to see your photos!!

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hello and welcome looking forward to seeing some pics

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by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:38

hope you people like it.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:39

by **janey** Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:41

What sort of dogs are they? Never heard of an Indian Bull Terrier! Blushing

by **Ben** Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:45

2 boys I'm guessing? They look like twins!

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:46

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:49

bbimson wrote:2 boys I'm guessing? They look like twins!

nopes they are male female. my breeding pair from different lines.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:51

janey wrote:
What sort of dogs are they? Never heard of an Indian Bull Terrier!

they are old type classical bull terriers , which were brought by britisher during there regime in India, this dogs with less of influence of breeders and shows, stayed in its form which James Hinks made.
Deepesh joshi

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:53

Hello to all of you.

by **Ben** Tue Nov 29 2011, 18:56

Indian bull terrier wrote:
bbimson wrote:2 boys I'm guessing? They look like twins!
nopes they are male female. my breeding pair from different lines.

Oh now I see. Are they usually all white (I have no idea about this breed at all)?

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:03

bbimson wrote:
Indian bull terrier wrote:
bbimson wrote:2 boys I'm guessing? They look like twins!
nopes they are male female. my breeding pair from different lines.

Oh now I see. Are they usually all white (I have no idea about this breed at all)?

yes they are majorly white in colour, but some times there are some small patches of other colours also seen but mainly white. James dogs were also white straight nose not like present bull terriers (egg head) .

by **janey** Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:06

Who's James Hinks or am I being very blonde? Blushing

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:11

janey wrote:

Who's James Hinks or am I being very blonde?

James hinks was the guy who mixed white terrier to bull dogs and made bull terriers, he made a breed that was base breed of todays egg shaped head bull terriers.

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:20

They are good looking dogs! They do look very much like the original Bull Terrier.

Old Timey Bull Terrier:
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by **Ben** Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:28

Neat. Are they good family pets or are they working dogs?

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:48

They are used in sick sport of dog fighting. my experience with this pair is like they are very friendly dogs zero human aggression.

by **Andy** Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:51

Wow!! thats really interesting ... I remember researching about Hinks years ago when I first got into bull breeds, and just before getting my Bull Terrier, I had no idea those lines were still being bred Surprised

... awesome, keep the pics coming Deepesh thumbs up

by **janey** Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:53

Do you breed them to fight then?

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:56

Whilst I appreciate that your dogs look in very good condition, I'm afraid I'm not keen on this type of breed, which have been crossed with the gull ter. Sorry, I hope I haven't offended you, I don't mean to - just not my type of dog! Blushing

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 19:59

Andy wrote: I had no idea those lines were still being bred ... awesome, keep the pics coming Deepesh

Actually, they're not. The dogs that are being bred to look like the 'old style' BT have been heavily crossed with other local dogs (both in India & here) to get back to Hinks' type of dog, although I believe that the Indian BT is actually larger than Hinks' dogs were.

Impressive looking dogs, though.

by **Andy** Tue Nov 29 2011, 20:10

Ahh right .. I thought it was a bit odd there were still enough original type stock to keep look alive Blushing

by **Steve** Tue Nov 29 2011, 20:28

would these be class has pitbul type in the uk?

by **Andy** Tue Nov 29 2011, 20:35

Depends who makes up the laws ... and much homework they've done, I would say no personally

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 20:46

Steve wrote:would these be class has pitbul type in the uk?

That's a moot point. They are being bred in the UK as Bull Terriers, and haven't yet attracted the attention of the powers that be. The people breeding them say no, they're not 'types', but as they are essentially cross breeds, yes they could be considered pit types.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:25

janey wrote:
Do you breed them to fight then?

. nopes i am against dog fights, i had rescued this male dog from dog fighting people.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:26

vanessa wrote:

hi there and welcome..can't wait to see your photos!!

here are the enjoy.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:30

Caryll wrote:Whilst I appreciate that your dogs look in very good condition, I'm afraid I'm not keen on this type of breed, which have been crossed with the gull ter. Sorry, I hope I haven't offended you, I don't mean to - just not my type of dog!

They are not gull terr nor they have been crossed with gull terr. Gull terr are bigger than this dogs and are found in Pakistan not in India, do a search on it and you would come to know.My dogs male is 16 inches and female 17 inches at withers.

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:36

The information I found online said that the gull terr was used in the formation of these dogs, I'm not saying that these are Gull Terr (although some sites say that they are the same, just different types). I'm not criticising, please don't take me wrong.

I just much prefer the present day BT!

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:39

Caryll wrote:The information I found online said that the gull terr was used in the formation of these dogs, I'm not saying that these are Gull Terr (although some sites say that they are the same, just different types). I'm not criticising, please don't take me wrong.

I just much prefer the present day BT!

Intentions in India to breed this type of dogs has never been to make it look like old type dogs, villages where this breed exist, they dont even know who James hinks was, they bred this dogs in the type that came with britishers to India because they fight well and can out perform any other dog breed in dog fight.

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:43

Indian bull terrier wrote: Intentions in India to breed this type of dogs has never been to make it look like old type dogs, villages where this breed exist, they dont even know who James hinks was, they bred this dogs in the type that came with britishers to India because they fight well and can out perform any other dog breed in dog fight.

Unfortunately, they are still bred to fight. Sad

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:50

Caryll wrote:The information I found online said that the gull terr was used in the formation of these dogs, I'm not saying that these are Gull Terr (although some sites say that they are the same, just different types). I'm not criticising, please don't take me wrong.

I just much prefer the present day BT!

I am not taking it wrong nor i am offended because i know the facts about this dogs as they are in front of my eyes and facts that you are reading or trying to collect are wrong and based on net assumptions of some pakitan sites.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:52

Caryll wrote:
Indian bull terrier wrote: Intentions in India to breed this type of dogs has never been to make it look like old type dogs, villages where this breed exist, they dont even know who James hinks was, they bred this dogs in the type that came with britishers to India because they fight well and can out perform any other dog breed in dog fight.

Unfortunately, they are still bred to fight.

true they are still bred for fight and that is what has made this breed survive and come so far. My intentions are just the reverse about this breed.

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:56

Indian bull terrier wrote:
Caryll wrote:The information I found online said that the gull terr was used in the formation of these dogs, I'm not saying that these are Gull Terr (although some sites say that they are the same, just different types). I'm not criticising, please don't take me wrong.

I just much prefer the present day BT!
I am not taking it wrong nor i am offended because i know the facts about this dogs as they are in front of my eyes and facts that you are reading or trying to collect are wrong and based on net assumptions of some pakitan sites.

The thing is, they must have been crossed with something, as there would not have been enough dogs to keep the line going otherwise!

I took this from a web site about Indian Bull Terriers & game bred Bull Terriers...
"There are many in Pakistan and India who say that the Indian Bull Terrier or Gull Ter is actually the original Hink's dog."

It is obviously not the original Hinks' dog as said above, but this site actually calls them Gull Ter. Another site mentions them as one of three types of gull ter.

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 21:57

I applaud you for wanting to take this breed away from fighting/baiting, but I fear that you are waging a losing battle. Sad

by **Ben** Tue Nov 29 2011, 22:05

I am really glad to hear that you rescued these dogs and that you are standing against fighting! What are these fellas like? I assume they share much of the BT characteristics then? I know it is hard to change people's oppinions especially about dogs that were once used to fight. Dog aggressive and people aggressive are not the same. Again, welcome and good job rescueing!

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 22:06

Caryll wrote:I applaud you for wanting to take this breed away from fighting/baiting, but I fear that you are waging a losing battle.

in what sense????

by Guest Tue Nov 29 2011, 22:10

Indian bull terrier wrote:
Caryll wrote:I applaud you for wanting to take this breed away from fighting/baiting, but I fear that you are waging a losing battle.
in what sense????

I fear that the 'sport' of fighting will continue, even though you (and no doubt some others) would like it to stop. It is too popular in your country, and the government won't ban it. Sad

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 22:13

Caryll wrote:
Indian bull terrier wrote:
Caryll wrote:The information I found online said that the gull terr was used in the formation of these dogs, I'm not saying that these are Gull Terr (although some sites say that they are the same, just different types). I'm not criticising, please don't take me wrong.

I just much prefer the present day BT!
I am not taking it wrong nor i am offended because i know the facts about this dogs as they are in front of my eyes and facts that you are reading or trying to collect are wrong and based on net assumptions of some pakitan sites.

The thing is, they must have been crossed with something, as there would not have been enough dogs to keep the line going otherwise!

I took this from a web site about Indian Bull Terriers & game bred Bull Terriers...
"There are many in Pakistan and India who say that the Indian Bull Terrier or Gull Ter is actually the original Hink's dog."

It is obviously not the original Hinks' dog as said above, but this site actually calls them Gull Ter. Another site mentions them as one of three types of gull ter.

@There are many in Pakistan and India who say that the Indian Bull Terrier or Gull Ter is actually the original Hink's dog
It is me that cannot read correctly what has been mentioned or its you ? it says actually its the orignal hinks dog..

@.It is obviously not the original Hinks' dog as said above
Why does it looks obvious to you?

Secondly i am not talking about gull terrs of Pakistan i again repeat this, this are Indian bull terriers different than pak versions. gull terr are mix between bully and Ibt, they are larger than Ibt in size.

by Indian bull terrier Tue Nov 29 2011, 22:14

Caryll wrote:
Indian bull terrier wrote:
Caryll wrote:I applaud you for wanting to take this breed away from fighting/baiting, but I fear that you are waging a losing battle.
in what sense????

I fear that the 'sport' of fighting will continue, even though you (and no doubt some others) would like it to stop. It is too popular in your country, and the government won't ban it.

its popular in others countries too and this sick mentality is gonna be part of not only ours but in your countries too..

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