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Post by spuker1 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:49 pm

Mambo's losing weight again, he went down from almost 21kg to 19.2kg Sad he's exactly the same as he was when we first got him from the shelter half year ago - have no idea what happened... we can see his ribs sticking out again and although he acts as usual, no change there - still very happy and with good appetite - he looks really small Sad we worked hard to find out what food is good for him, we increased the daily amount and that's when he gained almost 2kg and we were happy he's on the right track, and now this again.
I hope it's nothing too serious and that it's only his usual digestion problems... have an appointment with a vet at 4;30 today, so we'll see...

PS. sorry for being quiet for long, the last few weeks have been manic!

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Post by lynne on Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:00 pm

hope evrything goes ok today for you, please let us know how you get on

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Post by Caryll on Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:02 pm

Hope everything goes ok at the vets. Hopefully it's just 'one of those things'.


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Post by spuker1 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:18 pm

we're back now - i can't really say much as they took blood for two types of tests... I have to call the vets back on Tuesday afternoon to see whether the results are back and then we'll see. the vet said that Mambo is underweight and the reason is probably because he doesn't digest the food well, but she couldn't tell what exactly the reason is without the blood test.

she also said that it's not normal that Mambo is hungry all the time -to be honest, I thought it's just a part of his personality Wink

there's one more thing I'm worried about now - the bill was quite high (consultation + 2 types of blood test ) and I am now readling the Vet fee claim form from our Sainsbury's insurance - it says they require 'at least 12-month clinical history for all new claims' - he's a stray dog, I think he was found around March this year... obviously there isn't 12 month clinical history then... Sad does it mean that I won't get my money back?

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Post by janey on Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:29 pm



What a worry, is he still on Fish4Dogs? (if I remember rightly!). I hope the tests come back with an answer.

As for the insurance, it does sound odd about the 12 month history, I really don't think that will be the case givr them a ring tomorrow.

In the meantime, I no its hard but try not worry, you can't do anything until the results come back Xx


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Post by spuker1 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:40 pm

he's on raw meat diet. i don't think the vet approves it much (she said she doesn't think it's the best one for dogs) but I explained it was the only one his stomach would accept...

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Post by spuker1 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:59 pm

I rang Sainsbury's just now, they said there shouldn't be any problem with that,as long as I can provide the full clinical histrory since he was found and taken to the shelter. I hope there really won't be any problems it would be nice to have some of the money back....

Now we just have to wait. good that Mambo is still his usual self and doesn't even bother about having blood tests Smile(especially now when he's eating his favourite bone Big Grin )

I will definitely keep you posted... if we find out what it is and will be able to treat him maybe we will finally end up with a full-size staffy, not a size-zero model type dog ...


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Fingers crossed for a result Xx


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Post by lynne on Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:30 pm

Hope everything goes ok and the results are ok
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Post by jstaff on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:15 pm

Hope everything turns out okay.


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Post by Aniemother on Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:42 pm

I hope it just is a coincidence and that he'll gain it right back.

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Post by bbimson on Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:47 pm

spuker1 wrote:he's on raw meat diet. i don't think the vet approves it much (she said she doesn't think it's the best one for dogs) but I explained it was the only one his stomach would accept...


Hope Mambo is alright! I know many vets that don't like it, but then they turn around and recommend a crummy food like Science Diet. The more I have looked into it, the more I have come to realize that the vet schools are recipients of loads of money from some of these dog food manufacturers (at least here) and low and behold, they recommend their food. Not sure they spend as much time on dietary research as treating ailments and physical maladies. Mine does best on raw as well.


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Post by spuker1 on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:59 am

bbimson, I agree Smile on the other hand, I know that some people may just have their own opinions - I'm not strongly pro or against either raw food or dry food diet. as long as Mambo is OK, healthy and happy, I can feed him anything Wink

By the way, I didn't even mention what the vet is looking for, doing these tests. First is a possibility of B12 vitamin deficiency, but I doubt that - he should have diarrhoea and few other symptoms that I don't really see.
The other one is more possible: EPI Exocrine pancreatic insufficiency. Symptoms, according to wikipedia are: weight loss, poor hair coat, flatulence, increased appetite, coprophagia, and diarrhea. Feces are often yellow-gray in color with an oily texture. almost all of these are right in his case...


Luckily both of these illnesses should not be difficult to treat and they're not very serious if diagnosed and treated...
let's hope we will find out what's wrong soon and will be able to help our skinny boy Sad

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Post by lynne on Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:04 am

spuker1 wrote:let's hope we will find out what's wrong soon and will be able to help our skinny boy Sad


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Post by spuker1 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:36 pm

really wish it was Tuesday already... i'm pretty sure Mambo's got EPI and I really want to start the treatment but can't do anything before the result's are back Sad

he looks so poorly, it seems like he's getting even thinner everyday Sad

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Post by jstaff on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:06 am

Hope the tests will sort out what is wrong and he can get healthy again soon


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Post by Caryll on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:40 am

Good luck for Tuesday!

If it's EPI it can be treated; not only with drugs but by continuing to feed raw! A GSD forum I post on has quite a few cases of EPI (GSDs are very prone to it) and without fail they have all improved with a raw fed diet.

bbimson wrote: The more I have looked into it, the more I have come to realize that the vet schools are recipients of loads of money from some of these dog food manufacturers (at least here) and low and behold, they recommend their food. Not sure they spend as much time on dietary research as treating ailments and physical maladies. Mine does best on raw as well.


I'm afraid that's all too true here as well. They have their 'recommended' food which I'm sure they get paid commission to promote.


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Post by Dogalogs88 on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:05 am

Fingers X'd the blood tests come back with a diagnosis that can be treated easily. Poor Mambo, hope he gets better soon. big hug


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Post by spuker1 on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:45 pm

rang vets this afternoon, still no results back...
will call tomorrow afternoon again

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Post by janey on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:50 pm



Soz been crazy busy and forgot. Why not today? Hope you get them tomorrow you must be worried. How is he atm? Xx


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Post by gem on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:38 pm

Awww best of luck Smile

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Post by spuker1 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:39 pm

well, it seems like he's getting even thinner, or maybe it's just me going crazy
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I was told it won't necessary be Tuesday but I should call anyway.
Today is already a week since the tests so I hope the results are back... I will call them in an hour or two and let you know.

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Post by lynne on Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:15 pm

fingers and toes crossed and let us know what happens

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Post by Caryll on Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:44 pm

How's things? Do you know anything yet?


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Any news? Xx


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Post by vanessa on Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:16 pm


I hope they can sort out Mambo's problem .. must be very upsetting to see him wasting away..
I noticed you said he has digestion problems..over here we can get a Dog Probiotic Powder ( made by Blackmores ).. just wondered if something like that in his food might help at all.

Hope everything will be okay...XX


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Post by spuker1 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:03 pm

ahhh so frustrating! doh called again at 4pm, no vets was available so the receptionist said they will call me back once someone's free... it's 5pm and no one's called back yet Sad the centre is opened until 6:45 so I think I will wait until 6 and then call them again if they won't get back to me by then...

ahhhh I really want to find out what's wrong!

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I really hope you get an answer. Xx


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Post by spuker1 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:25 pm

it won't be that easy... his pancreas is OK, the problem is in the small intestines...

his B6 levels are 3.7, while 8 is a minimum...

this means his small intestines are not absorbing any nutrients from the food, so basically his digestive system is only half-working Sad

she said that she will do the research on Friday (she's off tomorrow) and find if any food companies are making the food that would be either digested in big intestines only, or will be specifically designed for digestive problems in small intestines.

she also said that to find out 100% what it is and why he's got it they will have to do the biopsy but she advised she wouldn't do it at this stage...


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Post by lynne on Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:51 pm

Sounds like it can be treated, you must be so worried
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Post by spuker1 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:57 pm

well, from what she said it sounds like it's the most complicated one of all three she suspected... I don't know, I'm researching in the internet now and can't find anything Sad there's a lot about EPI and B12 vitamin insufficiency but almost nothing about B6

and i'm not that sure about her researching food companies for the solution... i don;t want to end up feeding mambo something just because the food company said it's good...
i'm probably overreacting a bit but i'm rally worried, there is no easy cure here Sad


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Post by lynne on Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:00 pm

Sorry I don't know anything about it, hope you can find something on the internet, at least you know know what's wrong. I will have a look as well and let you know if I find anything



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Sad Re: Losing weight again, off to the vet this afternoon...

Post by spuker1 on Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:19 pm

i expect that this is going to be the food they will prescribe:

http://www.royalcanin.co.uk/products/products/vet-products/canine-veterinary-diets/gastro-intestinal-gi-25

vet said she's going to call royal canin tomorrow, I've done my research already and I'm almost sure that's what they will recommend.

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Sad Re: Losing weight again, off to the vet this afternoon...

Post by Caryll on Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:30 pm

Something that's been sugested on another forum (hope you don't mind, I've been picking brains for some sort of answer) was Vitamin B Complex drops...

http://www.victoriahealth.com/product/Vitasorb-B-micellised-vitamin-B-Complex/2793/0/?utm_source=gpl&utm_medium=google&utm_campaign=feed_201111

I really don't know if they'll help, but they won't hurt!


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Sad Re: Losing weight again, off to the vet this afternoon...

Post by spuker1 on Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:07 pm

thanks caryll! i will ask the vet tomorrow to explain the problem once again - when we spoke on Wednesday I didn't ask many questions, just listened and made the notes - now i found out a bit more about it myself, i can at least discuss it with her.

have you got any useful links to the discussions on other forums?

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