Teething at 14 months ?

Is it normal to experience teething at 14 months? Bailey has 4 new teeth cutting and is being a little bugger this week, is it normal to get new teeth at this age
It’s like having a 5 month pup all over again chewing and nipping

We certainly haven’t got that problem here ...

No, it isn't normal.

I would ask your vet for advice - there's probably no problem, but as his haws & gums are now 'set' the new teeth may cause him trouble! He's probably in a fair bit of discomfort, but Staffords don't normally show pain until it's really quite bad.

His jowls seem to cover his bottom teeth all of a sudden too is this normal

Littleman wrote:His jowls seem to cover his bottom teeth all of a sudden too is this normal

I'm not sure what you mean - can you post a photo?

Best I could get, bottom jowl seems to go over bottom teeth?

Ok so had his teeth checked by a vet at training this morning and all normal he isn’t teething after all and the small teeth I thought were new are normal
He is just being a cheeky boy

Oh, that's good!

Good he hasn’t got teeth issues but not so good he is being naughty

Naughty's normal!

No, ripping things up and leaving a mess in your house is not normal, and should not be tolerated.

Lack of discipline is a major reason why these breeds have a bad reputation. If you want a "naughty little friend" get a gerbil.

I find it baffling that people still insist on treating animals like their children. Grow up and act like the pack leader your dogs wants and needs.

Whilst I think I understand the underlying message that Pabby is trying get across, I do think there is maybe a more appropriate way to communicate in order to reach out to others.

TBH I would not tolerate destruction in my house but there is no foundation to the “pack leader your dogs wants and needs”.
From my humble experience with Nifty, I understand that staffies are very smart but sensitive souls under their solid outer. Dominance, as “pack leader” is often associated with, is definitely a recipe for disaster and a very disturbed dog.

I think the message was lay your boundaries and rules, teach them and enforce them by playing fair.

And one last thing, we are talking about living beings here so there will always be “errors” made - errors being things we did not want or expect. But be fair and you’ll be dealing with the very minor mishaps rather than global destruction !

Being a pack leader is a recipe for a disturbed dog?!

Says no dog trainer in the world, ever.

I can see this conversation going absolutely nowhere so I think I'll just leave it there. Just keep your dog on a lead please, preferably a short one.

Pabby1980 wrote:Being a pack leader is a recipe for a disturbed dog?!

Says no dog trainer in the world, ever.

Well yeah, in some ways.
A pack being “a group of similar things”, I presume you refer to the pack of dogs definition.
As to the leader part, you’re referring to the “alpha”.
If so, i repeat that there is no proof to this so yes, this can lead to disturbed dog.

If this was not your situation, then I do apologize for not having understood your post.

There are also a multitude of different dog trainers, some will work by force to get the dog to comply, other will work with their dog to reach mutual understanding and educate that way.
Each to their own but I don’t believe working by force or trying to be something you’re not (me trying to be a dog or my dog being human) is building a very good nor durable foundation.

Ps. I do find your last statement a bit rude and not very constructive whatsoever but hey, it’s an open forum and everyone is free to express themselves as they wish.

My last statement is born from the utter frustration of seeing owners who believe some new age namby pamby nonsense that their dog doesn't need discipline and only needs a hug, and therefore when they inevitably let the little s**t off the lead it acts the fool, had no recall and does nothing but disturb those of us who have well behaved, disciplined animals.

I really have no time for this wishy washy nonsense when it comes to dog ownership. Do you need to beat the crap out if a dog to get it to behave? ...no, but talking to it like it's a 3 year old child, trying to rationalise why it's just ripped your sofa to bits will achieve less than nothing.

It's nothing personal, if you or anyone else wants to live in a house with wrecked furniture and piss and s**t everywhere more power to you, but please don't expect your "naughty" dogs to be appreciated by those of us who don't.

Once again.... Good grief. Another rant.

If you don't like modern 'namby pamby' training methods, I don't think you'll like this forum. We are, for the most part, friendly, and we recommend 'namby pamby',, non-aversive training.

What a surprise! Raw food and hugs.

Good luck with that.

FYI, you don't speak for everyone on this forum and perhaps you need to revisit what the word 'forum' means.

It would be far easier just to agree with the concensus (like you do) but some of us don't always take the easy route of virtue signalling for 'likes'.

There's very little point in having a discussion if ideas, if all of the ideas are the same, even if it does make you feel warm and fuzzy.

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You really are rude, aren't you?

You assume that because someone disagrees with you, they must be blindly following the latest 'trends' or 'consensus'.

I assure you that I have many years of training experience and have studied the newer methods thoroughly before accepting or discarding them. I discarded aversive training ideas some years ago & warn as many people as possible against trainers like Cesar Milan.

You also assume that, probably because I am female, I will feel all warm & fuzzy over trivial little things. Insulting to say the least.

I am fully aware of what a forum is, but if you follow the old school methods of training & feeding (stick whatever you like down - he'll eat when he's hungry) then you'll get a lot of negative comments. It's obviously up to you.

I, personally, would always advise people to train non-aversively. . You don't.

We'll agree to disagree.

I'm not passive aggressive like some are, I'd rather say what I think and face the consequences.

And yes, we'll agree to disagree. No harm done.

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Pabby1980 wrote:I'm not passive aggressive like some are, I'd rather say what I think and face the consequences.

And yes, we'll agree to disagree. No harm done.

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Why should there be any agressivity at all, be it passive or active, when giving your opinion ?
I would have thought it more constructive to “face the consequences” or to debate on the content of your opinion, not on the appauling manner you have in forcing it across !

You appear to have some kind of experience somewhere along the lines.
I’d love to share some of that but you seriously need to change your communication skills (or apparent lack of) if you are to even try to ”educate” any of us.   

I suppose it's up to you whether you think being passionate about a subject is aggressive. If that's how you see my posts, fine, but I stick by them.

It may have been a throwaway comment, but the idea that "naughty is normal" with dogs, especially Staffies (given their undeserved reputation) is something I feel very strongly against.

If you find my comments aggressive, that's your prerogative, but I will continue to advocate for well behaved, well disciplined dogs as opposed to accepting bad behaviour as "normal".

Only two days ago I had to drag a dog back to it's owner by the scruff of it's neck because it was off the lead, had no recall and decided to attack my puppy. This stems from a lack of discipline and proper training, it's as simple as that, and as much as the owner seemed to think it was OK because his dog was just a bit "naughty", it won't be long before it gets in a fight with the wrong dog and ends up in pieces.

And it won't be the dog's fault.

If I have to come across as a bit of an arse to get the point across to even one person reading this forum that before they buy a Staffy, they need to be aware of proper training, or very bad things can happen...then so be it. I'll take that label.

How one chooses to train a dog is a matter of personal choice, but I'd say that letting a dog get away with god knows what under the pretence that it's just "the way it is" is nonsense.

Anyway, whatever, I think I've made my point and don't seem to be achieving anything by further posts so I'll leave it there.

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Maybe you should just think "If I continue to be aggressive, people won't bother reading my posts & so what I have to say won't be read at all!"

Because that's what happens.

As to 'bad behaviour' being normal - actually,it is! And then we train our dogs to do things our way. But to discipline a dog for doing something that he has no idea is 'wrong' in our eyes is counter productive & confusing.