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Post by canthavethat Mon Jul 20 2015, 20:10

Hi everyone

Has anyone tried desensitising their dog to the sound of fireworks/thunderstorms using CDs/recordings?

Bailey is terrified of both, and while I can deal with fireworks because I mostly know when they're coming, I am dreading a thunderstorm happening during the day... she gets into such a state that one of us would have to race home from work to be with her Sad so I am thinking of trying desensitisation CDs. Just wondering what results people have had?
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Post by stella Mon Jul 20 2015, 20:25

no sorry i have never used them,sash hates fireworks too and its a nightmare time,we used dap spray and she has a thunder jacket,i hope you have some luck with the cds,do let us know how she gets on with them Smile
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Post by Mia05 Mon Jul 20 2015, 20:52

i just played ordinary calming music with thumps occassionally mia has never let fireworks bother her but played music more for the little budgie i had . hope the cds work
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Post by Rachel33 Mon Jul 20 2015, 21:23

Hiya - I've used them, Bug's phobia has definitely improved but we have tried so many things I can't say what did it. She didn't react even 50% as severely to the cd, even with it on a louder volume however, as she did to the real thing. I think it's possibly the vibrations/tension/general feel of the storm/fireworks.

We tried diazepam, thunder shirts, valerian spray, DAP collars, loud music/TV, lots of exercise before. The best combination we have found is a massive walk before plus thundershirt, and loud TV & curtains closed. But as you have said, that won't help in the middle of the day if there's a storm. It's such a hard thing to work with, and is really trial and error.
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Post by canthavethat Mon Jul 20 2015, 22:03

Thanks yes I have done the loud music/TV before, but I can't do that every day when I leave the house just in case there's a storm lol. The last couple of storms I have had her wrapped round me shaking like a leaf and panting for England and I am really worried about one happening when no-one is home. From what you have said the CDs are definitely worth a try thumbs up
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Post by -Ian- Tue Jul 21 2015, 10:45

Sorry I can't offer any advice here but do let us know how you get on with the CD
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Post by JStaff Tue Jul 21 2015, 13:41

We used them for trains. As Rach said I think the the vibrations play a role as well but the CD certainly won't hurt
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 21 2015, 15:15

As well as noise, there are so many things with storms that add to the whole. There's a change in air pressure, there's often strong wind and driving rain. A dog may not be scared of wind and rain in themselves but become so because of association.

I think that's why I found no change at all using the CD with Bobbert. We cracked fireworks - at one stage he could actually sleep through them instead of trying to dig through the floor or climb out of closed windows - and we did make major progress with storms if I was there, but if I was out I'd come back to find a skirting board ripped off, a door chewed, or something.

But, that's just that one dog so it's certainly worth a try. For what it's worth, the most effective thing I found for noise desensitisation overall was pairing it with food from the very earliest moment possible, being super happy with every bang 'yay, fab bang, have a treat' and putting him on the lead to restrict the amount of pacing that would wind him up even further.

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Post by canthavethat Sun Nov 01 2015, 17:56

Just an update to the original post. No luck with CDs, she just didn't have the same reaction as she does to the real thing. So I bought an Adaptil diffuser and omg it's made a massive difference. She is so much calmer during fireworks. Most evenings at the moment she stays on the sofa next to the diffuser even when no-one is in there with her. Last night (Halloween) there were so many and so close (it was like having someone on the doorstep with a machine gun Surprised ) that she needed some comfort from me but it was still nothing like as bad as it usually is. She was scared but not shaking. I even managed to interest her in a chew, something she won't do when she is really scared. I'm so relieved I have found something that helps dancing
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Post by stella Sun Nov 01 2015, 18:06

really glad you have found some thing that works Big Grin
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 01 2015, 19:57

That's really useful to know, and a great result for you. Hopefully this is just the start of her learning that fireworks and storms aren't quite as bad as she previously feared.


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Post by -Ian- Sun Nov 01 2015, 19:59

Brilliant news Big Grin
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Post by beecee Tue Nov 03 2015, 06:43

Good result , but different to mine in that ingot no benefit at all from Adaptil as a calming agent , and I used a YouTube clip ( fireworks for dogs ) that's eleven mins long of fireworks sounds , had no problems at all over the weekend , that said it was MissyMoos first Halloween so I can't really say how she would have reacted without the YouTube clip .

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Post by canthavethat Tue Nov 03 2015, 09:57

Nice one. Glad it seems to have worked for her Smile
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