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Post by peppa Thu Jul 03 2014, 19:57

Been wondering who else end up with an alpha? Did you intend to do so and do you find raising them from a pup is different?
I didn't know when I took her as the plan was to take her brother and she choose me anyway..
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Post by Rachel33 Thu Jul 03 2014, 20:00

Sorry, not quite sure what you mean?
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Post by peppa Thu Jul 03 2014, 20:08

I mean a dominant dog (not to confuse with aggressive ).
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 03 2014, 20:10

Do you mean a really confident dog?

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Post by Steve Thu Jul 03 2014, 20:53

remember dogs are not wolfs  Tongues  that has alpha male and female




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Post by peppa Thu Jul 03 2014, 21:15

Yes cause unlike wolves they are leaving with us but I mean watching their behaviour with other dogs and still in every litter there is one alpha which is not necessarily the biggest but the most confident one and that's the one cesar millan and others suggests its better not to pick when choosing a puppy as they are far less obedient and therefore harder work so I was wondering if there is a diffrence raising them although unlike wolves we are their pack.
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Post by Steve Thu Jul 03 2014, 21:20

my sam was ok Smile he was the dominant frommy xena litter it's how you bring them up the only problem i have he doesn't liek bigger dog but i think this was more down to him being attack but 2 boxer when he was only 10 months old

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Post by yeahbut Thu Jul 03 2014, 21:59

Maybe a lot of staffies think they're alphas. I have no idea what the position of my dog was in the litter as I got him from the SSPCA when he was between 1 and 2 years old. However, I do know that he likes to be top dog and, from experience of meeting other staffies (esp male staffies), that may be quite typical. Dominance...aggression, whatever you call it, there may not be too much of a dividing line between the two. If a dog wants to assert its superiority over another it's hardly going to challenge its opponent to a game of chess or try and beat it in a pub quiz. Aggressive/dominant body language and behaviour are the key elements in the staffie box of tools.

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Post by Debs01 Fri Jul 04 2014, 15:07

Axl is very subsmissive with females, he once had a female he hadn't met before jump up with her paws on his back growling at his neck and he stood with his head down doing nothing but if a male dog did that he'd attack so for him I guess he's dominant with males but not females Smile
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Post by jola139 Fri Jul 04 2014, 15:30

When we went to choose a puppy, we went for the sleepy, fatty head. And it turned out in to Debo. Since he was a puppy we taught him that domianate play is not allowed. Well, I think it's in Staffies, the way they carry them self. I think DEbo is confident, females can do anything to him and he's real gentelmen. Younger dogs and very unsecure - DEbo sometimes would lay on his back in front of them. But when a adult dog try to dominate DEbo he won't let him. So we have to be really carefull in those situations.
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Post by peppa Fri Jul 04 2014, 18:19

Peppas behaviour with other dogs is fascinating to wAtch and she's not aggressive more like controlling the situations including playing submissive with a weaker dog to make it fair play when she wants to extend the play time she's much more gentle with puppies but with strong dogs or bitches but especially dogs she's really provocative make them chase her and then jumps/ stand on their heads she did it to a big 3 year old staffy in the park the other day he played the game with her and then attacked a wizla that went in between them on a lead .
And my peppa jumped right into the fight that all of the owners managed to stop . She'll play with females as well but there seem to be more potential problems there as some get scared and sometimes get aggressive to her and I have to stop her before she responds.
Older, slower or not interesting she just ignores I learn so much about dogs social structure it's interesting to compare but seems like my peppa behaves more like a male??
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Post by jola139 Fri Jul 04 2014, 18:50

It's like Debo, he likes the opposite sex, because he doesn't have to compete with tchem.
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Post by Nathan Fri Jul 04 2014, 20:37

alpha dominance has only ever been observed in captive wolves not wild.
As for dogs, marley is very dominant with new dogs. he will pull his tail over his back stand proud and either walk past ignoring them completely or walk up to them, sniff and walk off again.
sometimes he will decide he likes a dog as an equal and will chill out and get intrested in getting to know them.
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Post by shegsy Fri Jul 04 2014, 22:24

Stella just can't be bothered with any dogs now. If any come near her, she's fine face to face but a sniff at her bum and that's it - she warns them off with the most ferocious growl Surprised  They get the message and leave her alone Big Grin 
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