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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:10

Sad you got to feel for these people Sad


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Post by _Jason_ Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:19

Sometimes yes sometimes no
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:20

today socially made they how they are, they never will ever work they not fit to work who would hire them?

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Post by _Jason_ Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:25

Steve wrote:today socially made they how they are, they never will ever work they not fit to work who would hire them?


Doesnt sound like many on that programme want a job,there lazy lowlifes
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Post by justdirk Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:27

Cannot watch it, anger tv is bad for my health

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:29

national service would sort out this problems but these are far to gone

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Post by Rachel33 Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:34

I have empathy but everybody has choices in life. I loves in a caravan for years, and then a council estate until I left home at 16. I was in a lot of trouble when I was a teenager.. My parents disowned me, I was on drugs, had mental health problems and lived in a garage! I got sacked from my job for stealing (later got proved innocent) I didn't have any prospects but I worked my a*s off and changed it for myself.. So many of my friends are either still in the same place, in prison or dead.. I chose to get out. It wasn't easy, but you do what you gotta do. There are options, even if it's factory work. These people don't want to take those options.
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Post by Rachel33 Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:35

Lived* in a caravan lol!
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:36

i know but when people be hard drug for years and year who going hire them?

most of these dont have any teeth

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:39

and just bones

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Post by Rachel33 Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:44

A good friend of mine was in prison for drug crimes and attempted murder.. He's never been out of a job! Just works in sales.
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:45

ok your an manager or owner would you hire someone without any teeth? just bones and just about look like an tramp?

i know i wouldn't

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Post by Rachel33 Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:49

Depends what the job was really.. If they were now clean and proven to be reliable I would yeah! Smile
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Post by Rachel33 Tue Jan 21 2014, 12:49

And that's only one person.. The rest of them are more than able to work!
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 21 2014, 18:59

I wont watch it makes me worked up Smile

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 19:00

it doesn't work me up i feel sorry for them there unfit to work and some people would rather have them on the street Sad i think it's sad

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Post by justdirk Tue Jan 21 2014, 19:24

Rachel33 wrote:Depends what the job was really.. If they were now clean and proven to be reliable I would yeah! Smile
agree with this totally, if someone is willing to make an effort and try to better their life for the best, I'd give them a chance...


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Post by Sazzle Tue Jan 21 2014, 20:21

I didn't watch it this week
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Post by buddy boy Tue Jan 21 2014, 20:39

Rachel thank you for your honesty and openness,
very little is being said about the unseen disability MH,
I totally agree with conscription, they still do it in europe, a choice between army or ambulance they learn to get up learn discipline responsabilty etc x
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Post by jshrew Tue Jan 21 2014, 20:47

Certainly depends what job but there is certainly work if you want it speaking to some of the large factories/abattoirs etc round here they are now having to advertise in Poland etc as they can't fill the jobs

Met a Romanian chap a few weeks ago he spoke no English came over to be with he partner as she had got a full time job in a care home got himself a job in a curry house pot washing but it's all about what you are prepared to do for minimum wage

Look at the 50p guy that was on the first week, showed initiative and just got himself out there and I believe had job offers because of the show
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 20:53

but there people just aren't fit to work for an number of different of reason ( ect. non caring parents, being abused, drug abused so on). none of them having great lifes like what people think people do who are on benefits.

would any of us sleep in any of these houses? i wouldn't even in the white d's house

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Post by jshrew Tue Jan 21 2014, 21:18

Steve wrote:but there people just aren't fit to work for an number of different of reason ( ect. non caring parents, being abused, drug abused so on). none of them having great lifes like what people think people do who are on benefits.

would any of us sleep in any of these houses? i wouldn't even in the white d's house

Anyone who makes a lifestyle choice does just that

Ok take two tramps one is there because he doesn't want to live in a house he choses to be out there and will not engage with support or any help that is offered the second fell on hard times and lost everything he wants to get off the street and will attend the night shelters and engage with authorities for help

The key is people have to want to change

You comment on the state of the houses and yet the occupants are sat out front smoking all day that's a lot of time and money that could be redirected!
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 21:27

it all depend what has happen to that person then...

say someone been abused for most of their life there different type of abuse well you know that jules and they just dont want to leave their house this person is unfit to work cutting his or her benefits or make this people homeless how is this going help this person...

yea there are some that could but there more that just aint fit to work... making these people work you just going have more people committing suicide is this really what we want? kids losing there mum or dads becasue they being made to do something they just cant?

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 21:42

it's doesn't matter if i have or have not served the country

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Post by jshrew Tue Jan 21 2014, 21:45

Yes there are some people who have genuinely * starts to life but for every one that becomes a victim of life is someone with the same start that changed their life

For whatever reason they seized the opportunity to change

There really isn't the support out there for a lot of people who need specific mental health and drugs intervention but unless they are off the chart with their behavior many need to admit that they have a problem before they can get any help
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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 21:47

some people just haven't got that type of will power

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Post by Steve Tue Jan 21 2014, 21:58

Locking this topic before is do and say somethingi regret

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