Unfortunate. Help?

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Unfortunately the owners didn't feel confident enough for me to have the puppy. Due to the area et cetera .

Could you guys/girls help me find a promising litter please? Preferably pied/blue/black?

Batman Attacks wrote:Here's the thing Matt. I think that...once I got attached to her. I'd want her to have one litter? And that would be purely one she was getting older. Just so that if she passed away...I'd have a puppy to carry on her legacy . All the other pups I'd probably be picky as Hell where they went or I'd give them to trusted people on here like you just because I'd know you'd treat them well (I know you wouldn't take one because of your dog) . But do you get where I am coming from?

Also, I am going to hold you to that Caryll

Bit of advice my friend , carry on putting links up for litters and we will advise you all day , even if its just for the puppy pics Start talking about irresponsible breeding and you will end up in the middle of a very heated unwanted topic that doesn't get anybody anyhwere

Don't shoot me , I'm only telling you how it is

I think I am coming across wrong here. Obviously I'd be picking a suitable mate for her. And I wouldn't let the other puppies go anywhere bad. I've seen first hand in my area what that leads to. That's why I said I'd vet the people and ask if any of you wanted one. Why is that so bad?

I'd be asking you guys/girls how to breed her responsibly. I shall start posting puppy links for you guys/girls

leave breeding the professionals!

They need health tested, also breeding is incredibly complicated that require a certain type of person with experience to do properly and safely.

Doing it just because you want to is the worst thing ever.

I know though tbf matey, you don't really intend to do a lot of these things and are just popping ideas off the top of your head but you must realise what is responsible and what is not.

It's irresponsible because the only reason to breed is to better the breed, not to keep hold of a puppy. There are already countless puppies in the world and will continue to be, so it's bad that you'd want to breed just so you can keep a puppy of hers. Does it matter that the puppy would be her puppy? They're all puppies, they're all dogs and they're all loving. That's not even including the MANY things that could go wrong, that you'd have to spend money on health testing her so she doesn't pass on genetic problems to the puppies, and that most people on here wouldn't get a puppy off you because they already have their dogs, so you wouldn't know where they'd end up.

My friend has a friend who is a breeder of Bulldog's. He'd surely help me. Plus I'd make sure the mate was KC registered and I'd make sure he/she got a through checking over my you guys/girls first .

I realize that right now I am inexperienced...but in a few years and speaking to the breeder friend of my mate's could help me a little. But I'll leave that for the future. To be honest, once the day comes...I might just back out and be too scared she'd die giving birth (I've heard of it happening)

And Tara...I don't know. Maybe the day will come and I wouldn't want to breed her in fear of problems like that but I can't just strike it out. There is a possibility I would. There is a possibility I wouldn't

And.....

http://www.champdogs.co.uk/litter/26866 ???

Rescue centre is the way forward for you my friend. You'll get a great, thankful dog and she'd be spayed so if you ever decided on breeding through your friends, friend's experience she'd be safe from it

We'd all like you to have a lovely pup and be very happy, but promoting the well being of animals is the most important thing.

Good luck though

It's still not the right reason to breed, health-tested and KC-registered or not. People breed their dogs to pass on the genes of their dogs that are great examples of the breed (physically and in terms of temperament), not because they want a puppy of the dog they have. But this is all premature, focus on getting a puppy/rescue dog first and focus on training it and working with it before you consider anything else, because this is years into the future.

I agree .

Thoughts on this litter?

http://www.champdogs.co.uk/litter/26866 ???

without checking the sire looks way too young

the pup will be 13%

Damnation. This is hard xD

Batman Attacks wrote:Here's the thing Matt. I think that...once I got attached to her. I'd want her to have one litter? And that would be purely one she was getting older. Just so that if she passed away...I'd have a puppy to carry on her legacy

Don't. even. go. there.

That is not the way to consider breeding, neither is it a good enough reason.

Batman Attacks wrote:My friend has a friend who is a breeder of Bulldog's. He'd surely help me. Plus I'd make sure the mate was KC registered and I'd make sure he/she got a through checking over my you guys/girls first .

Don't even think about breeding right now. Get some experience with a dog first.

Breeding, done properly, is expensive. You need DNA tests done, you need to pay a stud fee, you have to have at least 8 or 9 good, trusted, forever homes lined up. You need to have a couple of thousand pounds handy just in case the birth goes wrong & she needs an emergency cesarean. You need to be able to take back any pup at any time for whatever reason. You need to have the room and time to look after up to 10 puppies for at least 8 weeks. That's 8 x meals, 4 times a day; 8 x poos, several times a day; 8 lots of wormers every weeks from 2 weeks old; 8 x microchipping before they go to new homes.

Dave wrote:without checking the sire looks way too young

He's at least 6 years old, Dave, he was health tested in 2007! But the COI would be too high anyway.

Caryll wrote:

Dave wrote:]without checking the sire looks way too young

He's at least 6 years old, Dave, he was health tested in 2007! But the COI would be too high anyway.

Like I say Caryll , never checked , wonder if it is a very old photo ? as the pic to me looks like a very young dog (or he hasn't had a paper round like the one I've had )

Looks like I'll be waiting another month for some new litters to be posted

Batman Attacks wrote:Looks like I'll be waiting another month for some new litters to be posted

see you in a month then

I am the Breeder of Uk and INT CH Tillcarr Tillerman and i can tell you the sire is 5 years old so not young at all.

Dave wrote:without checking the sire looks way too young

Hi dave ,am the Breeder of Uk and INT CH Tillcarr Tillerman and i can tell you the sire is 5 years old so not young at all.

Tillcarr wrote:I am the Breeder of Uk and INT CH Tillcarr Tillerman and i can tell you the sire is 5 years old so not young at all.

Tillcarr wrote:

Dave wrote:without checking the sire looks way too young

Hi dave ,am the Breeder of Uk and INT CH Tillcarr Tillerman and i can tell you the sire is 5 years old so not young at all.

That's ok, we sorted that one out - Dave didn't look at the age!

Handsome boy!

No prob Dave , Im not sure how old Tiller was on that pic , I reckon thats a photo of him when he was about 12 months old .. I will try and find a recent one of him :-)

Twelve months? Wow!

Uk and Int Ch Tillcarr Tillerman at 4 years old .. This pic was taken at East Of England Championship show .

Tillcarr wrote:Uk and Int Ch Tillcarr Tillerman at 4 years old .. This pic was taken at East Of England Championship show .

Beautiful!

Thank you .. and he has a temperament second to none ..such a sweetheart

very nice dog!!!

Tillcarr wrote:I am the Breeder of Uk and INT CH Tillcarr Tillerman and i can tell you the sire is 5 years old so not young at all.

Tillcarr wrote:

Dave wrote:without checking the sire looks way too young

Hi dave ,am the Breeder of Uk and INT CH Tillcarr Tillerman and i can tell you the sire is 5 years old so not young at all.

Hi Tillcarr , sorry about my post I looked at the picture and not the age , most breeders would make a recent picture so never checked , there has been a lot of toing and froing with this post so I didnt read all the details on the link and it was just a very quick response.

Might I say one thing though , this boy is a fantastic looking specimen so big pat on the back for you

No Prob Dave , it is a younger pic of him .. In fact hes going a bit grey now! LOL!! ... Thanks for the nice comment about him.

Tillcarr wrote:No Prob Dave , it is a younger pic of him .. In fact hes going a bit grey now! LOL!! ... Thanks for the nice comment about him.

I'm confused , check back through your posts and can't find out are you living in the UK and ex Oz or is it a mistake on your profile

i mess up with the flags i was adding a couple new one and set he ozzy flag as default lol so everyone when i did the mistake as now got the ozzy flag till they change it

Thought there was a big increase in Australian members

No im def Uk

Tillcarr wrote: No im def Uk

OK Cobber ( ) you need to go to your profile at the top and select the UK flag , boss man messed up

Steve wrote:i mess up with the flags i was adding a couple new one and set he ozzy flag as default lol so everyone when i did the mistake as now got the ozzy flag till they change it

He looks amazing

Am i a pomme again?? :-) Although i could quite easily be tempted to Oz ! went in October , loved it , lovely people and beautiful country!!

Tillcarr wrote:Am i a pomme again?? :-) Although i could quite easily be tempted to Oz ! went in October , loved it , lovely people and beautiful country!!

........and too many biting/stinging nasty creatures!

Caryll wrote:

Tillcarr wrote:Am i a pomme again?? :-) Although i could quite easily be tempted to Oz ! went in October , loved it , lovely people and beautiful country!!

........and too many biting/stinging nasty creatures!

And so hot that I can't understand how people can live, work, walk, do anything but melt in that heat

Tara wrote:

Caryll wrote:

Tillcarr wrote:Am i a pomme again?? :-) Although i could quite easily be tempted to Oz ! went in October , loved it , lovely people and beautiful country!!

........and too many biting/stinging nasty creatures!

And so hot that I can't understand how people can live, work, walk, do anything but melt in that heat

That, too!

Hi Tillcarr. I'm new to Staffies, Bacchus being my first, but your boy looks absolutely gorgeous to me.

To get back to the original thread. Batman Attacks, you sound very young and not too sure what you want. Why not go for a rescue who will appreciate the home and love you can give it ? Plenty of time in years to come to think about getting into breeding if you still feel the same way after you gained experience.
Please forget your preconceived ideas and listen to the advice you have been given by the experienced people on this forum.