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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 19:53

jake limping on back leg don't know if u can see much in video but only uses 3 legs most of time he's not in any pain check leg and paws seems fine but limps more often now.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 19:56

Have you ever brought him to the vet for this? It looks like he's quite restricted with it.

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Post by janey Sat Mar 23 2013, 19:57


If he is limping then he is in pain, have you been to the vets about it yet? Moo does this very occasionally but its usually a thorn, how long does the limp last?

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:00

did it a few weeks back while walking then went more or less straight away.
then started doing it if he had been layed on that leg, today seems to be doing it all time, gunna take him to vets just wandered if anyone else had same problem.
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:01

My friends dog has bother with her wee legs from time to time. Def worth going to the vet and make sure they have a good look. If possible show them that video if you can on a smart phone or something similar.

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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:02

i cant see it can you get more light on it?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:03

It might sound silly, but check in between his paw pads. I had a dog a few years back that walked very lightely on one paw and I separated the pad to look in and there was a tiny little sharp stone poking into her skin.


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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:03

is it all the time or is it now and then?

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:05

took this with phone so vet could see it will try on other phone may be better
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:08

is the limp happen after laying down?

on a walking does it look better?

does it happen went hes running around?

and does he yelp before he limps?

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:09

not all time usually doesn't bother him when i walk him just in house but today seems to be doing it most or all time really, he dunt like you touching his paws but i rubbed all under and around his paw while stoking him and didn't flinch i know when he's ad trouble with his front pads he yelps when u touch em but his back legs never moaned or owt?
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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:11

Steve wrote:is the limp happen after laying down?

on a walking does it look better?

does it happen went hes running around?

and does he yelp before he limps?


walking/running he's fine just when he's been layed down
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:14

i bet its arthritis but i could be wrong

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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:16

did you walk him a lot when he was a pup?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:18

He's an adorable puppy and I loved his wagging tail.

Has he ever had his hips checked for displasure?

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:19

Steve wrote:i bet its arthritis but i could be wrong

thought that but he's only 18 months old Crying or Very sad
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:20

mufcgaz wrote:
Steve wrote:i bet its arthritis but i could be wrong

thought that but he's only 18 months old Crying or Very sad

If it is it can be managed and helped so don't stress yourself too much. Just make sure the vet gives him a real good look over. Bringing the video will def help Smile

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:21

Steve wrote:did you walk him a lot when he was a pup?
he did limp as a pup and someone said i could be walking him 2 far so i slowed down
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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:22

Lynda wrote:He's an adorable puppy and I loved his wagging tail.

Has he ever had his hips checked for displasure?

no mate but gunna take him in this week for a good check up me thinks
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:23

dog can get it at any age remember staffy avg life span is only 12 years they get it a lot sooner the we do but saying that ther other problems.

my sam had a bone floating in his joint

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:23

Yes the vid will help the vet, for sure. Still looks like hips or slipping patella to me though.

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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:24

mufcgaz wrote:
Steve wrote:did you walk him a lot when he was a pup?
he did limp as a pup and someone said i could be walking him 2 far so i slowed down

walking a pup can damage their joints that why i ask

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:26

mufcgaz wrote:
Lynda wrote:He's an adorable puppy and I loved his wagging tail.

Has he ever had his hips checked for displasure?

no mate but gunna take him in this week for a good check up me thinks

best idea! Do let us know the outcome - I'm hoping I'm wrong and it's just a "silly trick" as my Grandma would say. >Big Grin<

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:29

Steve wrote:
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Steve wrote:did you walk him a lot when he was a pup?
he did limp as a pup and someone said i could be walking him 2 far so i slowed down

walking a pup can damage their joints that why i ask

Yes, unfortunately it is so easy to overexercise a puppy, they have so much energy and need to be protected from themselves.

When your someone said you could be walking him too far, how far/how long were you walking him, and what age?

This could be useful info for your vet.


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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:35

Lynda wrote:
Steve wrote:
mufcgaz wrote:
Steve wrote:did you walk him a lot when he was a pup?
he did limp as a pup and someone said i could be walking him 2 far so i slowed down

walking a pup can damage their joints that why i ask

Yes, unfortunately it is so easy to overexercise a puppy, they have so much energy and need to be protected from themselves.

When your someone said you could be walking him too far, how far/how long were you walking him, and what age?

This could be useful info for your vet.


about a mile around 3/4 months old
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:38

a 3/4 month old should of been getting 15/20 mins walks

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:38

A mile isn't very far. As long as it isn't forced exercise it wouldn't be too much of an issue.

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:42

he's never shown pain that's the prob his pain threshold.
he's had problems with his front paws and skin problems with alergy's to grass but cleared up after anti-biotics.
this video might show better, take no notice of my 10 yr old playing in his box instead of all the toys we buy him-easily pleased lol.
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:47

it could also be the wooden floor you have got Wink he could be twisting his back leg on it you may want to add more maps down for him

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Post by mufcgaz Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:49

mufcgaz wrote:he's never shown pain that's the prob his pain threshold.
he's had problems with his front paws and skin problems with alergy's to grass but cleared up after anti-biotics.
this video might show better, take no notice of my 10 yr old playing in his box instead of all the toys we buy him-easily pleased lol.
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10201077667329515
can't tell that much need a better video in daylight 2mora and iff no better monday will take him to vets and show them video.
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:49

MatLogan wrote:A mile isn't very far. As long as it isn't forced exercise it wouldn't be too much of an issue.

it's is to far for 3 month old pup matty boy

walking a pup should be 5 = a month of his/her life so a 3 month old pup should only get 15mins walks, you make the do more you asking for problems Wink when their joints are fully grown

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:54

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MatLogan wrote:A mile isn't very far. As long as it isn't forced exercise it wouldn't be too much of an issue.

it's is to far for 3 month old pup matty boy

walking a pup should be 5 = a month of his/her life so a 3 month old pup should only get 15mins walks, you make the do more you asking for problems Wink when their joints are fully grown

Ah right no worries. Tbh I'd have walked Logan that far as a pup. The hill I live on is near a mile and I'd walk it in 15 mins or so. I maybe exercised him a bit much as a pup too though.

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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 20:57

then you got lucky Wink

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 23 2013, 21:16

Well, a 15 minute walk for a 3 month old puppy is about right for the age. If he's on a lead and walking at human pace (which is about 4 miles per hour), that would be about a mile. But that would be quite a brisk walk, and if the pup is off lead or on an extendable lead, then he will have covered further than a mile.

I notice in your latest vid that the pup had a collar on in the house. Now this may possibly be a very long shot, but my pup hated having a collar on at that age, and would try to scratch it off. He has never worn a collar in the house, but even now at 15 months of age will occasionally, whilst out on a walk, hop along for a few strides on 3 legs, as if remembering that early irritation. Just a thought.

Anyway, the vet is your next port of call - show him/her the vids and get his hips and patella checked out. Good luck and do let us know how you get on.

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Post by Nathan Sat Mar 23 2013, 21:34

tbh it could be lot of things and in honesty it would in be really hard to diagnose by just a vid.
as for a mile walk i wouldnt consider that too bad as i coverd that easily within the recomended time limit for walking. humans average 3.3 MPH which would give you just over a mile for a 20 min walk if you were keeping up with your dog then your were prob doing between 4-5mph (thats why they pull) and the time for that mile would come down to around 15 mins.

At the rear leg you have a few things to consider, hip, joints, ligaments and foot. to me it doesnt look hip related as its the hip that is bearing the weight in the vid. could be ligament but again they tend to lower the leg but not weight bear on it and kinda drag it off the ground. athritis could be posibility but you would usually notice a gradule build up although its a strong posibility. If you had to push me for a "guess" I'd say he's either twisted and hurt a joint/ligament of hurt a toe maybee even broken one.

Only speculation though and best checked by a vet like your doing, good luck and hope it isnt anything seriouse
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Post by Jackieb Sat Mar 23 2013, 21:36

Looks stiff the poor lad - he's not putting weight on it, could be hip - knee - foot or anything inbetwren ! Defo vet check ASAP. Hopefully easy sorted. Staffys can have all sorts of probs with legs/knees.

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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 21:38

there no way on this earth a pup could do a milie in 15/20 mins Rolling Eyes come on Nathan

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Post by Jackieb Sat Mar 23 2013, 21:45

At the end of the day - it's in a Staffords nature to be loyal and that dog will follow u and go with u for how ever long u take it.

This is why it's the responsibility of the owner to watch how much exercise they get in the puppy period as over-exercise can interfere with the growth plates of the legs as well as affect the joints/ligaments.

Anyway, let us know how u get on with ur lil lad at the vets Smile
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Post by Nathan Sat Mar 23 2013, 22:11

yes and i can prove it, all my walks are tracked and dogs walk faster than humans even pups. at 4mph without distractions = 15 min per mile
Granted real young pups would struggle to make the distance but at three months they are more than able to cover that distance at dog walking speed, ive just had 18 months getting up close and personal with it.
The following was a laska walk around the park and you can see the average was my walking pace plus time to stop and sniff which equates to around 1 mile per 20 mins at dog pace we could shave that 5 mins of easily. the recomendations are for continuouse walking and dont include standing still and sniffing. remember 5 mins per months is 5 mins of walking and is a guide which common scense has to be applied . that was at 6 months old so should have been 30 mins of constant waling but as it was a pack walk alot of it was spent playing and running about which isnt included in the guidlines.
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Post by Steve Sat Mar 23 2013, 22:17

Rolling Eyes I WOULDN't make my 3 month old pup to do a mile walk in 15 mins

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Steve wrote: Rolling Eyes I WOULDN't make my 3 month old pup to do a mile walk in 15 mins

TBH, neither would I. The pup would do his best of course, and probably would have the energy to do it, but the pup at that age is still a baby with undeveloped muscles, ligaments and bones, and needs to be protected from himself from overexercise and possible damage to his developing body.

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Post by Nathan Sat Mar 23 2013, 22:40

the point wasnt about making anything do anything but what they are capable of doing. if we are to take the guidelines literally then it is time rather than distance that is the important factor. otherwise we need to stop quoting guidlines that we have no faith in. to quote specific milage as a guidline is unworkable unless we strap a GPS to the dogs as I estimate they do around 2 to 3 times the distance weaving about that i do on a recorded walk (leaded).
And that will vary greatly from dog to dog as I have one that straight walks and another that is allover the place. youve got me thinking, i may well strap a GPS to one of the hounds to make a more informed post on the matter. my brother did it with a free running dogs so would be intresting to find he diff between human and dog on lead.
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Hi Gaz, how is Jake getting on with his limping? Hoping that it has improved ...

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Post by goldie87 Fri Mar 29 2013, 17:40

Zeus has just started limping on his back right leg too, I just took him on an hour walk and he ran around in the living room for a bit, he was fine. He lied down for a bit, when he got up, he started to limp and pretty bad.

Guessing it could be a twist or bruise or something?? Going to try and make him rest it off today, if its the same tomorrow, will go to the vets, will keep you all updated!
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Post by janey Fri Mar 29 2013, 17:43

goldie87 wrote:Zeus has just started limping on his back right leg too, I just took him on an hour walk and he ran around in the living room for a bit, he was fine. He lied down for a bit, when he got up, he started to limp and pretty bad.

Guessing it could be a twist or bruise or something?? Going to try and make him rest it off today, if its the same tomorrow, will go to the vets, will keep you all updated!

Bless him, hope he is ok, the vets will give some anti inflams and tell you to rest and he should be back to himself in no time, although I do hope its better by morning Smile
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Post by goldie87 Fri Mar 29 2013, 17:46

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goldie87 wrote:Zeus has just started limping on his back right leg too, I just took him on an hour walk and he ran around in the living room for a bit, he was fine. He lied down for a bit, when he got up, he started to limp and pretty bad.

Guessing it could be a twist or bruise or something?? Going to try and make him rest it off today, if its the same tomorrow, will go to the vets, will keep you all updated!

Bless him, hope he is ok, the vets will give some anti inflams and tell you to rest and he should be back to himself in no time, although I do hope its better by morning Smile

Thanks Janey, I was afraid of that, he's just got over his hystiocytoma and was on anti inflamms, anti biotics and steroids for it. I wanted to keep him medication free for a while but doesn't look like its going to happen Sad
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Fingers crossed he is better tomorrow, if not try resting for a day before going back to the vets as after a little longer he may start to look better. Hugs from us >Big Grin<
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 29 2013, 19:02

Oh poor Zeus. I guess we all bang ourselves on something or twist ourselves somewhere and hobble for a bit; the problem comes when our dogs do it and they just can't explain and we tend to panic. Hopefully a day or two's rest will sort Zeus out - good luck and all best wishes >Big Grin<

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Post by goldie87 Mon Apr 01 2013, 18:31

Thanks both, you were right, after a few days of rest & not going on walks his legs fine, probably just twisted it!
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Post by Lis Fri Apr 05 2013, 11:07

Hi, how did Jake and Zeus get on? Hope it is nothing serious.

My boy started limping around this time last year usually after a mad run with his ball. He would be fine when we went out and came back but after resting he would limp and not weigh bear on his right back leg.

At first I kept thinking he had just pulled it or knocked it or something, and usually in a day or so it would be fine... until he did a mad run again. Anyway it gradually got more regular until one day we were out and he was running with his ball and he suddenly started limping on it whilst we were out and wouldn't put the leg down. I took him straight home and gave it two days and he would not weight bear on it at all so off to the vets we went!

I'd experienced friends and colleagues dogs who had had cruciate ligament surgery and knew the symptoms were familiar with what my dog was experiencing and I tried to hope that it wasn't this for my boy. The vet did some x-rays and then my fears were confirmed as it was a cruciate ligament rupture Sad

So 3 weeks later in July last year he underwent surgery. The following 8 weeks were tough going as you have to keep them on restricted movement, only allowed out for toilet breaks (strictly on lead) and we had to get his old puppy crate out so he was kept confined for the times when we were out of the house. I must admit he was as good as gold, especially for a staffie, as you try telling a staffie to keep calm and not jump or run about lol!

The good news is that 9 months on you would never know he had surgery or that he now has a titanian implant in his knee bless him. The down side to this injury is that athritus almost immediately sets in from the very early stages of the injury. So now I give him lots of supplements as it helps with this. With this cold weather after a good run and charge with his ball he is always a little stiff the next day and for 3.5 years old he sometimes gets up like an old man bless him! But other than that, the surgery is amazing and they can return to normal activities after about 3/4 months.

My vet said this injury is quite common in staffies so I really hope it isn't that. The only other down side is that quite often after a time the other leg goes where they have been over compensating for the injured leg. There is a 40%-50% chance of this happening, but even so I remain optimistic about the chance of this happening, but if it does at least I will know what to do.

One thing though, if it cruciate ligament rupture, and I really hope it is isn't, I hope you have insurance as the op and treatment do not come cheap!! Surprised

Good luck and hope your babies are ok Smile
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