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Post by rebeccaleanne Sat Mar 09 2013, 12:45

From when he opened his eyes this morning he has literally been jumping of the walls at wits end at wits end

just been to the asda to get flowers and he had a massive paddy got back home and he just driving me and tyke mental, tyke has even taken his self off and gone hidden some were (feel like following)

just dont know what is wrong these last few months he has just gone hay wire, people keep saying we were lucky as he was a really good two year old!! am not bloody lucky now am i haha!!

Nothing is working today, he on a sweety ban, lego been taken off him he been told of and been put on the step .........if any one has any really good parenting advice please let me know Laughing tried or tested methods Big Grin

give me ten of tyke today over a mad child Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad



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Post by Guest Sat Mar 09 2013, 12:59

If you take his Lego off him he's not going to keep quiet, is he? Stick him in his room with a film and some things to play with Laughing. Yes, I know, this is terrible advice Tongues ah, hope he settles down soon though.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 09 2013, 13:01

Can only advise what I do with my son is the same I do with Steff Wink And that is wear them out, if he bouncing off walls, take your son to the park with a ball and get him to chase it Laughing Sometime I leave Steff at home, grab a footy and Dylan and hit the park for a couple of hours Wink Sometimes son's need some 1 on 1 time with mummy Love Struck

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 09 2013, 13:03

Tara wrote:If you take his Lego off him he's not going to keep quiet, is he? Stick him in his room with a film and some things to play with Laughing. Yes, I know, this is terrible advice Tongues ah, hope he settles down soon though.

rolling on the floor You pushover rolling on the floor

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Post by rebeccaleanne Sat Mar 09 2013, 13:07

Went and took tyke this morning and all i got is am cold, am wet! All iv been doing is entertaining and all he wants to do is cause havoc!
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Post by rebeccaleanne Sat Mar 09 2013, 13:08

Tara wrote:If you take his Lego off him he's not going to keep quiet, is he? Stick him in his room with a film and some things to play with Laughing. Yes, I know, this is terrible advice Tongues ah, hope he settles down soon though.

Haha that would be ryan winning Sad but thank u
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 09 2013, 13:18

Ohh sometimes they have days like this >Big Grin< I hope he has a big, long nap for you.. Good luck Big Grin

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Post by stig Sat Mar 09 2013, 16:00

The problem with kids these days is the same problem we have with our dogs, we seem to have adopted a "ignore bad behaviour but reward good" form of discipline, whoever thought up that tactic should be forced to stand up and explain to all parents exactly how they expect this form of discipline to help model our children. So by that theory I could go out and beat somebody to the ground, and then help them up off the floor and dust them down and they should thank me for being such a nice young man? No, I think not.

I could drone on about the arguments me and my o/h have over the reason our 3 year old is such a handful, there's no need for doctors to run tests and there is no need for behavioural programmes, whats needed is a good smack across the 4rse and some firm discipline. Look at the way all animals behave, monkeys are a fine example, when a baby monkey misbehaves is he simply ignored, is he sat on a step for a small amount of time or is he rewarded with a little playtime?. The answer would be no, he gets a clip around the ear and pushed aside, he then sits on his own and has a little sulk and within minutes is back monkeying around, does he make the same mistake again? well yes, it takes a while, but the smacks get a little harder and eventually he learns that if he doesn't act like a n0b, he doesn't get smacked. The monkey then grows up to be happy and respect his master, and upon bringing his own little monkeys into the world he uses what he has learned to raise another generation of monkeys that respect each other and know right from wrong.

People need to take a good long look at what has changed in the last 20 years, a bunch of do gooders and busy bodies pushed for a law that made it illegal to discipline our children, and now they're wondering why our children are growing up to be an embarrasment and a disgrace to our country.
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Post by pongy Sat Mar 09 2013, 16:11

Smacking is bullying in any form for kids or dogs, if you smack it will come at the cost of respect. to restrict play or interaction will teach right from wrong, smacking maybe a QUICK fix to some but not smacking teaches patience smaking teaches its ok to hit smaller people
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Post by racamoe Sat Mar 09 2013, 16:22

It;s not easy is it Rebecca doh

We were always quite strict , bit like Supernanny Laughing It didn't stop mine having bad days though or pushing the boundaries.

I have a really good relationship with them all and they can tell me anything, so I don't believe having rules harmed them at all.

I always do loads of stuff wrong though and am still learning...I went on lots of courses with work about dealing with challenging behaviour and they say consistency is the key.

2 yrs old is a hard age, don't be too hard on yourself xx

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Post by stig Sat Mar 09 2013, 17:08

I'll be honest, whilst I preach about how kids need a smack and firm discipline, I'd be terrible at it, because I would fear my kids or my dog losing respect for me if I were to smack them. A couple of times Stig has had little taps on the nose but I've felt terribly guilty and ended up fussing him to death afterwards, he still gets excited and jumps all over me when I walk through the door so I guess he still loves me.

That being said I was disciplined with a slipper as I got used to the hand and it no longer hurt, I would also be grounded for a week at a time, if I left the house within that week I would be grounded to my bedroom, the week would start over and I would have my megadrive taken off me, if I argued over it I'd be hit, so I didn't argue. If I was told NO, it meant no, I didn't ask why and I didn't try to negotiate, because my mothers word was final. Before I hit my teens I knew right from wrong, my mother no longer had to hit me because I knew not to push it, just the words "do you want something to moan about" or "1,2.......3" were enough to stop me doing whatever it was I was doing. I hated my parents at the time as my mates got away with everything and I was the only one who ever got in trouble, looking at it now those same mates spend all their time getting stoned or *, hanging out in their front gardens being a nuisance to everyone who walks past and sponging from the system as they have nothing whatsoever, not even the desire to go out and work. Had I not been afraid of discipline or simply not had any discipline I'd have twagged school everyday, I wouldn't have gone to college and rest assured I'd be sat with my mates getting stoned or * in their front gardens, loss of respect for my parents? No, but not a shred of respect for the parents of my old friends.

I'm not saying just smack the * out of your kids and all will be fine, I just don't agree with the alternatives, Ignore bad behaviour- so I should ignore the crayon all over the wall, Ignore the milk being poured on the sofa, ignore the doors being kicked and slammed, and then when he stops doing these things say "wow you're being so good right now, heres a chocolate biscuit for not pouring your drink all over the sofa", no, don't pick all your toys up for a reward, don't count from one to twenty for a reward, don't use the big toilet for a reward, just don't crayon all over the walls and we'll call it good behaviour and give you whatever the **** you want.

The naughty step-what is this, seriously, is it a step, no it's actually a stool but we'll call it a step. Is it scary, you know like is it in a dark corner and are you fastened to it it so you can't move? No, it's all pretty and coulourful and it's just outside the playroom in the hallway. What happens if the child gets off, should they be worried? haha oh no, absolutely not, you actually just stay by their side and every time they stand up you start the timer again, I mean come on, it's not like you have anything better to do is it, you know like cook dinner or tidy up, you can just stand next to this stool all day long if you wish. What does the child learn from this? oh well the child learns that, if he's 3 year old you set the timer for 30 seconds and he has to sit there, if he stands up he has your attention for another 30 seconds, if he stands up enough you'll eventually give in as you have to go answer the door or something. Does it work? pfft, would you be scared of sitting on a stool.

Were fighting a losing battle at the end of the day, disciplining our kids is like p1ssing into the wind as everybody has a different opinion on how it should be done, everyone fears being judged for doing it their way and not the way everybody else wants it to be done and it has got to a point where nobody knows what to do, instead of just getting on with it we're on internet forums asking for everybody elses conflicting opinions which ends up telling us all the things we "shouldnt" do. This is what happens when too many laws and rules get passed, the ability to make decisions of our own is taken away
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