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Post by Hoppergrass Thu Jun 21 2012, 21:06

Hi
Does anyone know if blue staffies are genetically different to other staffys? A friend of ours was chatting to a chap who had a blue staffy that was very small and he claimed that it was bred to be small. Also he is a breeder of small blue staffys and was asking £1,000 per animal.
We have a rescue staffy and I have checked against the kc guidelines and he is at the top end in regards to size and we have seen a blue staffy who is two months younger than him ( our dog des is 1 year 9 months) and the blue staffy is 4 inches smaller in height.
Have you any thoughts on this?

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21 2012, 21:09

No, genetically they're exactly the same! It's just that some are bigger/smaller than others, same as any colour.

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Post by crystel Thu Jun 21 2012, 21:52

Hi blue staffords are the same my girl is actually quite big 21kilos and 16inches too shoulder like us humans staffies vary in size and shape most of the blues i know are quite leggy but thats just what i,ve seen not a rule.
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21 2012, 21:53

Colour in itself makes no difference at all to the shape/size of any animal.

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Post by Rudyblue Fri Jun 22 2012, 06:06

Mines small,14"at shoulder and 20kg but they're like any other colour staff they come in all sizes.the breeder must just be picking small staffs to breed just as if you were to breed tall staffs the pups would be tall

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 01:22

Blue staffords do often have skin and allergy issues, though.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 01:28

CatStina wrote:Blue staffords do often have skin and allergy issues, though.


yes blue staffs can have there problems but no more than whites Smile

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 01:43

Actually dilutes (blues, fawns, etc.) have allergies and alopecia more commonly than other colors, especially if both parents were dilutes. I can't find the link at the moment as I'm on my phone, but it has been discussed many times on this forum.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 01:59

all the info iv read shows blue can have skin problems
whites can have skin ear and eye problems
im not letting another tread turn into a blue bashing topic Smile

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Post by Andy Mon Jun 25 2012, 09:36

bigwazza wrote:all the info iv read shows blue can have skin problems
whites can have skin ear and eye problems
im not letting another tread turn into a blue bashing topic Smile

Here Here ........ dont get me started Laughing
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 10:47

None of which has anything to do with the original question! Big Grin

Genetically blues are the same as any other colour, no bigger or smaller.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 11:20

Caryll wrote:None of which has anything to do with the original question! Big Grin

Genetically blues are the same as any other colour, no bigger or smaller.


thumbs up and i for one dont even wanna hear the words "blue" "dilute" or "allergies" lol ive heared all that enough times to last me forever! Plus kaos has got that many allergies at the moment i could scream and hes black lol

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 11:24

carly when you going to send kaos on holiday to me Big Grin
what probblems with allergies is he having????

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 11:46

lol he would love it wazza! Hes always had graas allergies but just really bad at the moment. His feet are really irritating him, his tummy, chest and inside legs are really rashy, and he has to bald spots on either sides of his body all allergy related. Hes on half a prition 3 times a day but doesnt seem to be helping to much and hes got some hipisrub for his feet. To top it all off he's got yet another ear infection so not to good at the moment....poor lad lol

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 12:13

i thought memphis was going to be the same as last year he had rerrible hay fever type symptoms sneezing irritated eyes alergy lumps etc
but this year he had a few sneezes and thats it no need for the anti histamine Smile

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 19:24

It's not about "blue bashing," it's about breeding dogs for health and temperament rather than for color. It's something I feel strongly about and something I think should be brought up whenever people have questions about blue dogs. Its important to talk about it and keep people informed.

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Post by Ben Mon Jun 25 2012, 19:55

bigwazza wrote:all the info iv read shows blue can have skin problems
whites can have skin ear and eye problems
im not letting another tread turn into a blue bashing topic Smile
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And Monte will eat those who bash his white siblings. Big Grin
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Post by Staffiesrus Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:01

Ceasar Milan's pit bull Junior is lovely!!!

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Post by Taryn Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:11

i personally dont think there is anything wrong with dilutes or whites, as long as they are bred to be healthy animals and only healthy animals are bred from so that one day we wont need to mention colours having health issues
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Post by Steve Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:14

nothing wrong with blues, fawns or whites It's when you bred them together increase risk of health problem Tongues there many topic on here about this Taryn Tongues i'm not going get in another big debate any body breed these 2 colour together in my eye is a bad/lazy breeder everyone should stay well clear of them..

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:17

Steve wrote:nothing wrong with blues, fawns or whites It's when you bred them together increase risk of health problem Tongues there many topic on here about this Taryn Tongues i'm not going get in another big debate any body breed these 2 colour together in my eye is a bad/lazy breeder everyone should stay well clear of them..


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Post by Guest Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:19

Hoppergrass wrote: Also he is a breeder of small blue staffys and was asking £1,000 per animal.

Just a little P.S. Any 'breeder' who charges more for a blue (or any other so called rare or popular colour) stafford is a poor breeder who's only out to get loads of ££££s & cares nothing whatsoever about the health of the dogs he/she is breeding.

Blue is a naturally occuring colour, isn't rare at all, and should cost the same as any other coloured pup!

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Post by Andy Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:44

Caryll wrote:
Hoppergrass wrote: Also he is a breeder of small blue staffys and was asking £1,000 per animal.

Just a little P.S. Any 'breeder' who charges more for a blue (or any other so called rare or popular colour) stafford is a poor breeder who's only out to get loads of ££££s & cares nothing whatsoever about the health of the dogs he/she is breeding.

Blue is a naturally occuring colour, isn't rare at all, and should cost the same as any other coloured pup!

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Post by Taryn Mon Jun 25 2012, 20:56

no i completely agree with you steve. i was trying to get at the same point
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Post by Hoppergrass Wed Jun 27 2012, 19:55

Thanks for your advice guys, we looked up the average cost for a kennel club dog and it was much less too. We have gone back to our freinds to advise.
I think all staffies are great and personally own one dark brindle and white rescue male who looks amazing.
I keep reptiles and fashions for colours change all the time and a albino is so much more expensive than a normal coloured leopard gecko. This is annoying as it gets to a point that breeders just focus on that area and then other colours get rare and go up in price etc.




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Post by Steve Wed Jun 27 2012, 19:59

you looking at BYB

Blue KC registered dog will be the same as other colour Wink

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 27 2012, 20:07

Hoppergrass wrote: fashions for colours change all the time and a albino is so much more expensive than a normal coloured leopard gecko. This is annoying as it gets to a point that breeders just focus on that area and then other colours get rare and go up in price etc.

Yes, it's the same with staffs - even though the blues aren't rare, the poor breeders will tell everyone that they are, and will charge more for them. Sad

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