Irish Blue

I wonder if people can shed some light on this? when ever i talk about staffs to people and i say what colour Cassius is why do people always say "Irish Blue". Is there such a term?

No, people who refer to any type of Irish staffs etc are most likely numptys who like to breed large staffs and pretend they are pitbulls, or are crossbreeds bred to look like pitbulls. The irish "blue" is a prefered colour.

but where does the "irish" term come from? i'd love to turn round and say, "there's no such thing as an Irish Blue, it's just blue" but i want to be 100% sure. i've had like 3 or 4 people say "oh yeah irish blue"

the irish term comes from people who decided to cross staffs and breed them to be larger than normal staffords so they looked like pitbulls but were still technically "staffordshire bull terriers"

dog fighting is/was very popular in ireland among the lower classes, so they wanted better dogs that were not pitbulls cause pitbulls were very hard and expensive to buy so they made their own so to speak.

ah right, thanks for that. I do think it's like chinese whispers or if someone says its "irish blue"people pass that on to other people and so on. so any blue staff is deemed an "irish blue". personally i just prefer Blue.

Make sure to correct anyone who says it

i don't think it even started in ireland, bad breeder add irish to the staffy name so to make people who don't really know anything about the breed they getting a new or different type of staffy but in 99% of the time they just getting a crossbreed and but paying silly amount of money for one, i wouldn't pay over £100 for one. most os these dog are pitbull type dogs which are banned in the uk

Hayley wrote:No, people who refer to any type of Irish staffs etc are most likely numptys who like to breed large staffs and pretend they are pitbulls, or are crossbreeds bred to look like pitbulls. The irish "blue" is a prefered colour.

Hayley wrote:the irish term comes from people who decided to cross staffs and breed them to be larger than normal staffords so they looked like pitbulls but were still technically "staffordshire bull terriers"

dog fighting is/was very popular in ireland among the lower classes, so they wanted better dogs that were not pitbulls cause pitbulls were very hard and expensive to buy so they made their own so to speak.

That's about it!

There's no such breed as an Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier - not a recognised one, anyway! Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a name that was coined to make a pitbull legal! There are blues in both breeds, though, so why they automatically think that a blue is Irish, I've no idea!

ok Hayley, i will do in future now i know the term is non existent.

for the record when i bought mine he wasn't sold with the term "Irish blue". it was only after i bought him and spoke to people that term was mentioned? hence why i asked.

i didnt think there was Caryll as in all the time of growing up with or talking about staffs i'd never heard of "irish blue" it was only when i bought a blue staff it was mentioned. i didnt want to challenge it until i knew for certain.

Steviec wrote:i didnt think there was Caryll as in all the time of growing up with or talking about staffs i'd never heard of "irish blue" it was only when i bought a blue staff it was mentioned. i didnt want to challenge it until i knew for certain.

Well you make sure you do challenge them , he's a little beauty and shouldn't be associated with these loose terms, if someone says he is an Irish Blue you can also be sure they really know 0 about the Staffys

ok great, thanks dave. i just wanted to be sure that's all before i do challenge them. im pretty sure, as i said, people possibly use the term "irish blue" because thats what they've been told etc etc.

Steviec wrote:ok great, thanks dave. i just wanted to be sure that's all before i do challenge them. im pretty sure, as i said, people possibly use the term "irish blue" because thats what they've been told etc etc.

Have you got any more recent pics ?? see he's much older now than your profile pic or you have a African Blue Pygmy Staff

Dave wrote:Well you make sure you do challenge them , he's a little beauty and shouldn't be associated with these loose terms, if someone says he is an Irish Blue you can also be sure they really know 0 about the Staffys

yes caryll, hes grown a lot, i'll get some pics uploaded.

lol how cute would a chiahuahua size staff be. but with like proper staff features.

I met a woman over the aerodrome about a month ago, who had a blue staff bitch, and she told me that she was an Irish staff...

I said 'oh, I didn't think there was such a thing' and the OH dragged me away moaning at me for trying to argue with the woman who 'clearly knew what breed her dog was'.

I have to say, I wasn't 100% sure so I didn't enter into a discussion with her - I'll only do that if I know I'm right!! HA!

he is lovely

Ive had mine called irish blues and also that they are pits as you cant get blue staffs lol

Your boy is so cute

Ed Reid is to blame for the 'irish staffie' saga!!!

rescuestaffords wrote:Ed Reid is to blame for the 'irish staffie' saga!!!

care to elaborate?

Hayley wrote:

rescuestaffords wrote:Ed Reid is to blame for the 'irish staffie' saga!!!

care to elaborate?

He was a big time pit bull breeder and when they became banned, he started breeding cross breeds to look like them, set up the IKC so the dogs could be registered and have IKC paper work instead of the proper KC paper work you get with a full breed dog.

just another way byb's try to get more for their dogs like hayley said theres only `1 type of staffy but as for the colour yes people do reffure it as BLUE

you could be right there rescuestaffords

It's just a way to make their dogs sound rarer than they are so they can sell them at more money, when in reality they're worth less money (in terms of breed, I mean) because they're crosses. I had someone in Pets At Home ask if Loki was an Irish Staff because he's big for his age...though in his case I think he was implying if he was a pitbull . So it's not just blue Staffs that get it.

I've never heard anyone in Ireland use the term Irish staff . And we like to think of everything as Irish lol

eogh wrote:I've never heard anyone in Ireland use the term Irish staff . And we like to think of everything as Irish lol

Surprised that all staffs in Ireland don't come with a guinness tattoo

Oh that's just racist lol

eogh wrote:Oh that's just racist lol

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He's lovely. I love the blue colour and his ears are fabulous! x

Hayley wrote:lol how cute would a chiahuahua size staff be. but with like proper staff features.

Bet some people would still cross the road to avoid you