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Post by polarsowner Tue Jul 19 2011, 22:28

Hi all im new to the forum and am just hoping to get any advise that can be give regarding my staffy (Polar named so as she is white and has a big black nose and our daughter said she looks like an polar bear). She is around 13 moths old so we have been told by the vet as we got her from someone who rescued from her previous owner she is a loving caring dog who just loves cuddles and attention she ha nevered chewed one item of ours which i am really pleased about as I believe they can either chew as a pup or when they get a little older.
The only problem is that if she is left unattended when we go out for instance then she will poo on our clothes or bed or anything he can find and am just wondering if anyone has any advice for that.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 19 2011, 22:32

Hi & welcome.

Have you thought of introducing her to a crate? She would be safe (so would your belongings!) and dogs don't like to soil their own bedding (although they'll think nothing of soiling yours!) so a crate can help to stop that sort of thing.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 19 2011, 22:33

I would close the bedroom door. She could have seperation anxiety so either crate training or try leaving for short periods of time and then graudually build up to longer times away.

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Post by janey Tue Jul 19 2011, 22:40

Hiya and welcome, nice one on giving a forever home! I would suggest back to basics. She needs time to settle as do you, but she is still a pup and will learn with patience and training X
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Post by polarsowner Tue Jul 19 2011, 22:52

Thankyou for the welcomes we orignally got a baby gate but within minutes of her coming to us on christmas eve she jumped that with no problems at all, we invested in a dog gate which again with about 5 minutes jumped that too no problems wa looking too good at that point in time we then got a metal crate but to cut a long story short she was clever enough to flip the locks up and pen the cage we stopped her doing that and she started to ram the door till it opened or just force it open to the point both doors are bent and we cannot bend them back but can jut about be shut still butshe has also bent the frame
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:00

Oh dear!

In that case, I think you'll need to go back to basics. It certainly sounds like seperation anxiety. Start by leaving her for just 5 minutes and then gradually increase the time. Don't make a fuss when you leave, and don't make a fuss when you come back - just act as though it's the most normal thing in the world, and she'll start to relax & realise that you'll be coming back to her.

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Post by polarsowner Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:14

We will have to try that I did origanlly start doing that just standing outside the door where she couldnt see me if she did get out and then going back we have also been told to assure her we will be back people seem to think this is a silly idea saying dogs dont unedrstand what you are telling them but obviously I know that they are alot smarter than some people give them credit for. The idea of leaving her for a short time and building it up over time can be a little difficult as i leave for work then my girlfriend can be out for longer than planned if she needs to pop to the shop after she has dropped our daughter to school and she can brak out of the cage within minutes of leaving her. Thankyou for the advice definatley will be giving it another try to th best of our ability but it does seem that sometimes she has forced them out as it can be in all different rooms that she does different things
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Post by polarsowner Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:16

Although I may be wrong with that last statement that might be what it seems like to me I cant be sure
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Post by janey Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:20

How long have you had her? All it takes is a bit training and she'll get it Xx
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:26

polarsowner wrote:We will have to try that I did origanlly start doing that just standing outside the door where she couldnt see me if she did get out and then going back we have also been told to assure her we will be back people seem to think this is a silly idea saying dogs dont unedrstand what you are telling them but obviously I know that they are alot smarter than some people give them credit for. The idea of leaving her for a short time and building it up over time can be a little difficult as i leave for work then my girlfriend can be out for longer than planned if she needs to pop to the shop after she has dropped our daughter to school and she can brak out of the cage within minutes of leaving her. Thankyou for the advice definatley will be giving it another try to th best of our ability but it does seem that sometimes she has forced them out as it can be in all different rooms that she does different things

Just standing outside the door won't work. As you say, they're pretty bright & she'll know you're there. You need to actually leave the house, maybe walk around the block & come back. It doesn't have to be every day, but maybe 3 or 4 times a week to start with.

I don't think you should say anything different to her at all when you leave, as she will pick up on your tone & will know that you're going out - that means that the anxiety will start to build before you've even got outside the door! That's why I think you should not make a full leaving or coming back. She needs to feel that there's nothing for her to worry about.

She will settle eventually, but you have to remember that she's a rescue, and she's already 'lost' one owner - she may be thinking that she'll 'lose' another!

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Post by polarsowner Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:28

We got her on christmas eve just gone she was rescued from the previous owner as she was ill treated from what we could find out and was very under weight but since then has been the best dog you could wish for other than the offending soiling of our items and breaking the crate she was in but then i have put that down to maybe the previous people that misstreated her had her in a metal crate and she may still think taht is going to happen again but again im not sure on that.
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Post by polarsowner Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:33

Sorry yes I do leave the house but just waiting outside didnt really think of it that way that she would know that I was only outside the door would you still suggest that we leave her in the crate whilst doing that too
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 19 2011, 23:33

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Post by kris82 Wed Jul 20 2011, 16:54

hi and welcome from me and coco... Your dog may be suffering from separation anxiety.
In nature, dogs are almost never away from their pack and polar has already lost one pack in her eyes.
my brothers dog ben was a rescue dog and suffered the same, he followed the steps below by no means was it a quick process. it also depends on the serverity of the anxiety. hope it helps Smile

Before you leave, go for a walk. Start the day by providing vigorous exercise. Then reward your dog's calm-submissive energy with food and water. Some dogs may need to rest before eating, but all dogs can benefit from hydration. The idea is to leave your dog in quiet, resting mode while you are away.

No touch, no talk, no eye contact. Don't make a big deal when you leave for the day or when you return. This way, you are communicating to your dog that the time apart is no big deal. It's just business as usual! Depending on the severity of the case, you may need to practice the rule for five minutes or up to an hour before you leave and when you get back.

Say goodbye long before you leave. Having trouble practicing "no touch, no talk, no eye contact"? Take a moment to share affection and tell your dog that you will miss him way before you actually leave. Keep in mind that this display is for you - not your dog! Your dog won't have his feelings hurt if you didn't say goodbye.

Stay calm and assertive! When you are ready to go to work, leave those guilty, nervous, and concerned feelings behind. Instead, let your dog know that everything is going to be okay by projecting the confident energy of a pack leader.

Start out small. Leave your dog alone for five minutes. Then, extend the time to twenty minutes; then an hour. Continue to increase the time you spend away until you can leave for a full eight hours with no problem
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 20 2011, 16:59

Hi and welcome. Great advice above !

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 20 2011, 17:07

hi from me and woody. sounds like you have a very intelligent staff who can overcome any barricade you put in her way, which also shows with time and consistency she has the intelligence to get it.Polar sounds wonderful and all of the above advice is sound. Woody would do the same if i left him with the run of the house but luckily he is fine with his crate - presume outside space is not an option?

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Post by youngkaiser Wed Jul 20 2011, 21:49

Hi and welcome to the forum Big Grin
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Post by polarsowner Wed Jul 20 2011, 22:29

Thankyou all for the welcomes and the advice that you have given me will definatley be trying it out again just need to purchase a new crat for her ha anyone any idea on a sturdy strong crate that would be suitable knowing what polar is capable of and thanks again
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Hi from me and REGGIE Wink GREAT ADVICE ABOVE good job
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Post by danny Thu Jul 21 2011, 07:57

Hi welcome on board :-)
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Post by Pittboss Thu Jul 21 2011, 09:54

polarsowner wrote:Thankyou all for the welcomes and the advice that you have given me will definatley be trying it out again just need to purchase a new crat for her ha anyone any idea on a sturdy strong crate that would be suitable knowing what polar is capable of and thanks again

Take a look at the carry crates like this one. http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3195394&lmdn=Category&gclid=CIa6seuEkqoCFUGF5godcCYqyg
I would try to get polar used to being in the crate with the door open to start and make it a safe place for her.Then start working with her on the amount of time she is in for.Getting her to go in with a treat, toy or other distraction should help when you start to lock the door.
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